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| Sieghart | Nov 23 2006, 08:25 AM Post #21 |
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@ zhendreti Palagay mo kung RPC style ang Ruling with Homunculus. NO GR + GTB. Fair Fight. The one with the homunculus will have the upper hand. Why? Caprice - 12~15 Cells capabilities to Cast Random bolts BioExplosion - Instant 17k+ Damage to a 5x5 area Urgent Escape - Instant Speed Pots without spending too much Zenny. and You can still have FCP/SPP with a Homunculus. Kahit sa iRO they prefer Homunculus, at nun nagRPC sila Gumamit sila. at sinasabi ko walang pagkakaiba ang damage ng Homunculus sa PVP/WoE tanong mo si Ced. Kung 4k damage ng bolts nila sa PvP 4k din bawas sa WoE. |
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| st.serenity | Nov 23 2006, 09:23 AM Post #22 |
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lul ka rhain!
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quite a debate here but let's not make a little war here, shall we? :) sir zhendreti is right because due to excellent supporting skills of a typical biochem, replacing homunculus with SPP/ACP isnt that bad. Mass life healing is so badly needed in guild sieges...And being a biochem, you also need FCP for eliminating the threat of getting yer armor broken or stripped... And of course, AB for your signature killing move.:) however,sir SA and sir sieghart is also right about the homunculus. Due to less people using this, it's extensive capabilities didnt shine that early. Support type homunculus like Amistr, its users are often saved by the Castling skill and additional defense is given its Adamantium Skin...Lif users, the Urgent Escape for instant running speed and Healing Touch for extra healing prowess....for offensive skills, u can call down Vanilmirth for Caprice and mass killing skill of Bioexplosion....and Filir for Fleeting and its EF like SBR44... All builds has its own purpose. Let's just give the threadowner to decide his choice. :) --->Sasori |
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| Synth10Cya™ | Nov 23 2006, 11:04 AM Post #23 |
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^ kung may skill reset lang sana lahat yan meron... homonculus fcp at ab pero masarap pa din mag acid bomb kesa homonculus.. additional na lang un... |
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| Magina` | Nov 23 2006, 11:40 AM Post #24 |
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@all na nag-advice just wanna say /thx /thx /thx sa nabasa ko un biochem/alchem is not just a support or a killer char but rather both..nun alchem plng yan my potion pitch at chem protect na pra sa support at acid bomb and demonstration pra sa attack nya.. my advantage po lahat ng sinasabi nyu pro I ko for the support na wlang humo kng woe..why?...busy kna po sa pgdef nyan eh..and lastly d pa nga nkikita un potential ng humo..bka nxt patch lalakas pa yan.. /thx sa advices mga pogi /kis2 you ROCK \m/ |
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| st.serenity | Nov 23 2006, 12:41 PM Post #25 |
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lul ka rhain!
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kaya lang po kasi walang gumagamit ng homunculus is... 1. mahirap daw ipalevel 2. magastos daw sa food 3. wala ng statpoint 4. ?? 5. ?? --- well, just like u've said mahirap nga magdefense and setting up ur homunculus at the same time... i agree. but there are some people who are quite adept at multi-tasking... :D I call those people...puppeteers. :) |
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| [Moderator]SniperAngel | Nov 23 2006, 05:34 PM Post #26 |
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ohh im starting to love this discussion :acute: A homunculus is like a diamond, after digging for the right ore out of hundreds or thousands of digging you choose one and polish it until its lustre shines through. It is one of the greatest class buff that ever existed. They may lack something [no homunculus type is perfect], but you as the owner could think of ways to adjust and to forumlate strategies. On the skill build. I won't argue with the AB-SPP/FCP whatever since i'll be having them all with the homunculus. I may receive some skill drawbacks, but i already have some compensation under my sleeve. Strategy.. hindi basta makabato lang, maka-coat lang, maka-pitch lang. Strategy will make you a better player, and strategy will make you a better individual even in real life. .. come to think of it. mas madali ang buhay natin compared to other classes, they have a cartload of skills and manawa ka kakacompute kung pano pagkakasyahin yung kakarampot na skill points, for the Biochemists, try to be street [or should i say] skill smart. 2 centavos. |
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| Zhendreti | Nov 24 2006, 04:01 AM Post #27 |
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Hmmm In paper actually yes malakas yung Humonculous, pero sa sieges talaga wala pa ako nakitang Biochem who was able to effectively unleash yung Pet nya. Meron ako nakikitang Biochem na dinadasalan for a coat pero di mabigyan dahil walang skill. Anyways sabi mo AB+SPP/FCP with humonculus? Im confused, meron kang build na meron tatlong yan with Humonculous? SniperAngel, Why do I get the feeling that you dont siege often...ano po name ng Biochem nyo at anong guild? thx. clang clang +1 |
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| st.serenity | Nov 24 2006, 07:41 AM Post #28 |
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lul ka rhain!
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@SA - you'd able to combine all those four... i assume that ur acp/spp or fcp is not at its maximum level. :) tell me if i guessed it right. :D |
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| Magina` | Nov 24 2006, 12:53 PM Post #29 |
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uu tama ka nga..lvl 1 FCP? /heh prang useless naman yata sa skill pts eh /heh |
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| Sieghart | Nov 24 2006, 02:46 PM Post #30 |
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^- Its not Useless just maximizing the potential of a biochem. If you dont want another support then dont get homunculus. |
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| Zhendreti | Nov 24 2006, 05:30 PM Post #31 |
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Pag kaalam ko di kasya kahit FCP 1. Kse madaming skill ang need ng Humonculous unless di maxed out ang AB or Slimpitch. Oist magina asan ka nag sisiege ngayun? /heh Just finished reading yung Biochem guide ni SniperAngel, magandang maganda sya except meron lang ako comment. Pinapipili nya yung Player to either get FCP or Slim pitch...hmm parang sinasabi nya na a MUST yung Humonculous. clang clang +1 |
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| [Moderator]SniperAngel | Nov 24 2006, 06:17 PM Post #32 |
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useless ba yung protection against equipment break? i know its 120secs. but as long as you have the coating bottles to use i dont mind coating myself frequently. its better to get one kesa wala, you'll be tasting the bitter portion of your own medicine. it is an eyesore seeing a Biochemist with broken equipment whereas he has the skill to prevent such from happening. @ the guide actually hindi ko pinapapili yung reader between bottle skills and homunculus. kasi kung kukuha ka ng homunculus you will automatically reduce the needed skill level for Slim Pitcher and/or Full Chemical Protection. i just showed the benefits of those skills, wala pa ngang details sa purpose ng homunculus dun sa guide eh [perhaps sa update na ginagawa ko meron na]. again, if you think a skill is useless why bother learning it. if you don't like it, then do'nt get it. its your skill build anyway. it won't make any sense if you'll get a skill and yet you don't know how the skill works for your needs/preferences. now for the Tetra-Skill Build: [any irrational comments, please keep it to yourselves. basta it works for me and i don't give a <word filtered!> thing if it wont work for you]. too bad i think this character is going to be sold. Lv5 Learning Potion Lv5 Pharmacy Lv5 Potion Pitcher Lv5 Acid Terror Lv5 Demonstration Lv10 Acid Bomb Lv10 Slim Pitcher Lv5 Chemical Protection Helmet Lv5 Chemical Protection Shield Lv5 Chemical Protection Armor Lv5 Chemical Protection Weapon Lv1 Full Chemical Protection Lv1 Rest Lv1 Call Homunculus Lv1 Resurrection Homunculus precautions before initializing skill build: -a separate brewer, or got any contacts with other brewers. bottomline, supplies. Learning Potion poses just +25% Potion Effect. yes, but you can just doublecast every skill that you think lacks like Slim Pitcher and Potion Pitcher. im sure you're not the only support in your guild, if you are [on this scenario kung ikaw nga lang you need more hand-eye coordination] Full Chemical Protection at lv1. 120secs. Kuripot ako, but i also want to lavish every bit of my character's potential. i may lose some percentage [brewing, restoration] etc but it made my character more flexible and adept to the needs of my friends and guildmates. @ sieging hindi ako nakakapagsiege ngayon [well i rarely go to siege to begin with]. i use my cousin's character, she just wanders around pvp room when i have time kasi malapit na board exams alangan namang ito unahin ko :rofl: |
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| Magina` | Nov 24 2006, 06:29 PM Post #33 |
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d paps..alam ko na d useless pro lvl 1 lng?..un duration ang tinutukoy ko dun eh.. @zhendreti sa godsmack ako ngsisiege..lolz d naman active ang CD eh |
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| Magina` | Nov 24 2006, 06:31 PM Post #34 |
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@zhendreti my YM ka paps?...my sasabihin lng sana ako..pki PM ako mada151emada@yahoo.com |
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| [Moderator]SniperAngel | Nov 24 2006, 06:32 PM Post #35 |
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yun nga, kinuha ko pa rin despite the duration ONLY to the extent of preventive purposes. 120secs.. short. teka kukunin ko lang supply ko ng coating bottles, ganun din. |
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| Zhendreti | Nov 24 2006, 06:37 PM Post #36 |
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Tama si SnipperAngel effective yung Coat kahit level 1. My experience sa sieges important yung Coat level 5 for siegers so ang ginagawa is merong Lv5 coater sa savepoint. Pero minsan need sa loob ng agit so dapat as a support meron kang malalagay sa guildmates for kahit panandalian lamang. 120s is a long time. lalo na papasok sa SpawnCamp. 2 mins deads na yung WS na nagmemeltdown sayu at nag surrender na sa kaka strip yung stalker kse kala nya meron ka pa coat. /heh Pero kung kasya at a highe rlevel syempre why not. clang clang +1 |
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| Magina` | Nov 24 2006, 06:39 PM Post #37 |
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pro paps 120 secs?..i'd rather go 4 chem protect na pa isa isa..un armor at weapon lng naman importante..ung mga gard at helm eh paminsan2x lng yan na tatanggal.. |
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| [Moderator]SniperAngel | Nov 24 2006, 06:42 PM Post #38 |
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try mo magcoat ng paisa isa sa isang hot pursuit tignan natin kung makumpleto mo yung apat. :rofl: sa totoo lang ang issue sa FCP Lv1 is not the duration, but the supplies. |
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| Zhendreti | Nov 24 2006, 06:42 PM Post #39 |
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wala ako sa hse e. Sa hse ko lang binubuksan YM ko...delikado na ma hack kse /heh pero eto olivertoto@yahoo.com add mo nalang uu Retired na CD, nakikisiege nalang kmi sa coal ngayun ... Coalescence[CD] yung guild. pero pipirangot nalang kmi...wala pa 20 minsan laman /heh nasa RF na yung iba, tapos karamihan retired na...si Mark cguro 2 a week nalang nakaka siege, ako naman 1 a week nalang. Na ngangamusta lang sa isang malakas na Prof /heh clang clang +1 |
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| Magina` | Nov 24 2006, 06:42 PM Post #40 |
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hmmm my point ka dun.. /heh d pa ksi ako nkaka pilot ng biochem kya d ko masyado naiintendihan ang mga ganyan /heh ..kya nga gumawa ako ng tread na to pra atleast my know how khit kunti lng /heh |
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