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nid your help; elp me out plz
Topic Started: Nov 20 2006, 06:40 PM (1,681 Views)
Magina`
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anu ang mga skills na kinukuha ang pvp at WOe type na biochem?...
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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depende sa scenario at kung ilan kayong biochemist usually sa party/guild.

if ikaw lang magisa sa guild. you can get AB-FCP-Homunculus combo. kung dalawa kayo, pwedeng i-align mo sa skill build ng kasama mo yung skill build mo. halimbawa AB-FCP sya, pwede kang maging AB-SP-FCP-Homunculus. :)
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thrall
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Ano po ba natutulong ng homu pg woe??/

Para wala yta akong napapansin n nagamit n2 pg woe??
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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yup malaki, hindi lang naeexplore. tska nasa palevelan kasi mga homunculus :rofl:
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JosepH-KilluaZ
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If u want AB type ka nalang PVP WOE PVP pa
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thrall
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SniperAngel
Nov 21 2006, 12:20 AM
yup malaki, hindi lang naeexplore. tska nasa palevelan kasi mga homunculus :rofl:

ANong example ng skill ng homu n makakatulong sa woe?

Para me idea naman po ako

Wala kcng homu ang creator ko
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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depende sa role mo as a Biochemist.

Kung more on offense as a primary role, pede yung Vanilmirth [just bring it to high levels]. Pero kung more of a backup ka ng guild, get a Lif.
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Zhendreti
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Hmmmm...just a suggestion

suggest ko lang po na wag na kayu kumuha ng Humo, so far it is not as effective as they thought it would be. Limited skill slots lang kse yung biochem so dapat na plan nyo mabuti yung skills set.

4 major skill trees sa Biochem na sieger, You can only get 3 out of the 4 dahil sa limited slots.
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1. AB = need po talaga

2. Slim pitch = medyo expensive skill since kayu gagastos ng slimpots pero sobra effective po sa Huge Army sieges.

3. FCP = useful po to unless meron kayu bot coater sa warp point nyo, then you dont need this skill as much as the 1st 2. expensive skill din, coat bottle nasa 40-50k.

4. Humoncolous = medyo OK sa PvP, pero sa sieges I rarely see its effectiveness, unless merong i dadagdag sa next few patches.


Suggestions lang po to, you must decide whats best for you. Hope this helps.


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@zhendreta
/thx sa info /kis2
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Wow!!!

Thanks sa info!!!!

Wala nga ako nakikita ng me mga humo n sieger
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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yung friends ko na nag-guest siege sa Steel Wolves. actually yung buong guild namin lahat ng Biochemist may Homunculus kasi additional firepower sya talaga.

yun nga lang umulit yung friends ko kasi gusto nilang kumuha ng mas magandang MATK Vanilmirth. but getting a homunculus will never be a bad idea, basta alam mo kung pano i-control.
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Zhendreti
Nov 22 2006, 08:57 AM
4. Humoncolous = medyo OK sa PvP, pero sa sieges I rarely see its effectiveness, unless merong i dadagdag sa next few patches.


I beg to differ. Since walang pinagkaiba WoE/PvP in terms sa Homunculus. Hindi lang din ako makapagsiege ngayon since na bug un vanil ko kaya in the process of remaking.

:p
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st.serenity
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lul ka rhain!
all i can say is homunculus is one of the greatest summoning skills that Ragnarok has developed...

though still buggy and considered a beta-skill, it still have its killing potential.

Besides, you cant rely on AB all the time...esp nowadays, people wear GR armors and smart priests and monks cast pneuma often...

Most of our mentors are quite upset because they're expecting some homunculus action last rpc2006. :wacko:

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try this out.

ab-acp-fcp [acidbomb-aid condensed potion(slimpitch)-full chem pro]

or
ab-fcp-homo [same but fcp is replaced by the homunculus.]

both ab and fcp is essential to your build so u better pick either acp or homo...

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good luck to ur biochem. /no1

welcome to the field of ragnarok alchemy. :)

--->sasori
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alam na! >.<
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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weird x_x i got AB-FCP-SPP-Homunculus skill build on my second Biochemist.
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st.serenity
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lul ka rhain!
oh you did?

that's a new breakthrough. :)

congrats... /kis [this is not a menyek kis /e4]

ill learn from ur new build sooner. :D
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@topic - if u opt to be a killer type, be sure u have a paladin-HP tandem to maximize yer damage output[battle chant and HP buffs] and to insure survivability[assump and the mostly loved skill, devotion]...or else, you'll end up eating yer own potions and status foods. :D

but still...you're still not superman. :)

good luck :)

---->sasori
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Zhendreti
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Sieghart
Nov 22 2006, 08:47 PM
Zhendreti
Nov 22 2006, 08:57 AM
4. Humoncolous = medyo OK sa PvP, pero sa sieges I rarely see its effectiveness, unless merong i dadagdag sa next few patches.


I beg to differ. Since walang pinagkaiba WoE/PvP in terms sa Homunculus. Hindi lang din ako makapagsiege ngayon since na bug un vanil ko kaya in the process of remaking.

:p

ahehehe dami pala humoncolous lovers here.

Yup prove me wrong po. /no1 Para yung iba kong alchem gawin kong biochem din, Actually antay ko si CED tsaka si Kwissy kung ano hahatnan ng kanilang mga Humoncolous.

Aeheheheh gusto ko tong debate, friendly debate lang ha.


@sniper angel
Humoncolous extra added firepower? true...at the cost of either 1.slimpitch(survivability of your guildmates) 2. FCP - survivability of your guildmates items.
most humoncolous are bolters, mastela lang po katapat.

paano nyo po napag kasya FCP+AB+SPP+humo? enge build =)


@sieghart
difference between WoE and PvP? malaki po.

PvP
usually max its 12 vs 12. Its not a huge brawl so malakas urvivability ng Humoncolous mo.

Other skills like slim pitch and FCP not so effective.

WoE
100+ vs 100+, humoncolous mo deads agad sa madaming SG, brandish, etc.

Others skills like slimpitch and FCP is VERY VERY effective.


@Serenity
TUMPAK!!!! its FCP vs Humoncolous. yun po ang mag aagawan ng skill slot. Saaking personal na opinion lamang pa yung FCP dahil di pa nakikita yung full potential ng Humoncolous.

And biochemists should not rely on AB. there are a lot of stuff they should be doing including healing guildmates, providing SP and coating them.

Actually yung KABOOM! na skill ng Humoncolous ang hinihintay ko. /heh. Tingnan natin effectiveness nya.




@Humoncolous lovers
Difference cguro natin is....para saakin a biochemist is a support class kaya i cant sacrifice other skills to get Humo, sa inyu iba tingin nyo yung job ng biochem...well basta kanya kanyang build yan.






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Humoncolous extra added firepower? true...at the cost of either 1.slimpitch(survivability of your guildmates) 2. FCP - survivability of your guildmates items.
most humoncolous are bolters, mastela lang po katapat.

paano nyo po napag kasya FCP+AB+SPP+humo? enge build =)


most homunculus are bolters. right. at almost 3500-5000 damage per magic skill used upon a character. Mastela? let's see kung kayanin yung 25hits of continous pain and suffering. Slim Pitcher? i got one and i know it still works well for me as a Biochemist.

homunculus survivability in siege scenarios. as a homunculus owner he should be sensitive when to Rest, and when to call. if you'll go straight to a pre-cast with your homunculus of course the homunculus wont be able to pass through [despite good mdef they dont have any resistance], but they can avoid such hotspot through Rest-Call. kahit mga tao ayaw masaktan diba?

on my side the reason i got a homunculus [though hindi sya sing monstrous as my friend's vanilmirth ] is to serve as a hit locker-magic attacker [potential 240hit, 250flee and 190aspd :rofl]. kaya yung damage na maiinflict mo through an Acid Bomb through is almost always enhanced by offensive type homunculus. GTB? hindi naman siguro ikaw lang magisa ang magdedefend. you can communicate with your guildmates so tackle someone you can't kill on your own.
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AnnaDos
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pag dnala ko s pvp un vanil ko, buhay sa FA. kaso yung MATK ambaba. nung pinaevo ko 1 lng nadagdag. /swt

Wala ako nkikitang Amstr sa Woe.
Common un mga vanil dhl sa caprice. mlkas din naman sya, ksi prang dagdag man power. diba?


@SA (OT)
sira monitor ko d n kita mkausap lit. /wah
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Zhendreti
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Nov 23 2006, 05:12 AM
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@sniper angel
Humoncolous extra added firepower? true...at the cost of either 1.slimpitch(survivability of your guildmates) 2. FCP - survivability of your guildmates items.
most humoncolous are bolters, mastela lang po katapat.

paano nyo po napag kasya FCP+AB+SPP+humo? enge build =)


most homunculus are bolters. right. at almost 3500-5000 damage per magic skill used upon a character. Mastela? let's see kung kayanin yung 25hits of continous pain and suffering. Slim Pitcher? i got one and i know it still works well for me as a Biochemist.

homunculus survivability in siege scenarios. as a homunculus owner he should be sensitive when to Rest, and when to call. if you'll go straight to a pre-cast with your homunculus of course the homunculus wont be able to pass through [despite good mdef they dont have any resistance], but they can avoid such hotspot through Rest-Call. kahit mga tao ayaw masaktan diba?

on my side the reason i got a homunculus [though hindi sya sing monstrous as my friend's vanilmirth ] is to serve as a hit locker-magic attacker [potential 240hit, 250flee and 190aspd :rofl]. kaya yung damage na maiinflict mo through an Acid Bomb through is almost always enhanced by offensive type homunculus. GTB? hindi naman siguro ikaw lang magisa ang magdedefend. you can communicate with your guildmates so tackle someone you can't kill on your own.

WoW anlakas naman ng Humoncolous nyo. /no1

Sabi ko nga, I wont be able to convince you since yung inyong belief is that a biochem is an offensive class, saakin po kse defensive support type sya hence I cant replace my FCP with Humo.



I will not try to convince you pero Ill show you a scenario.

2 equal strength guilds with several complete classes (LKs, SInX, WS, Wiz, Priest) etc...however meron lang silang 1 biochem each.

palagay mo sino mananalo? yung meron AB+SPP+ Humo or yung meron AB+SPP+FCP build.





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