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Pure SONIC BLOW Sinx; paturo po ^^
Topic Started: Nov 7 2006, 05:47 PM (22,540 Views)
monstabot
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mahirap pa lvl ganyan build...dami pa weaknest.... :D
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Dec 2 2006, 12:42 AM
so how can u kill if u don't have enough dex??(for high flee char) parang sinabi mong umasa ka sa mummy... even a total 90 dex can miss a 70+ base agi na sinX.... it's all on balancing ur stats IMO...

yeah. and the higher your dex is, the higher the effect of sonic acceleration on your hit rate. just be reminded that sonic accel isn't +50 hit, it's +50% hit.

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wahehe..akala siguro nila +50 sa hit agad...solve solve un kung ganun noh..sarap sana ganun n nga lang..ahahah!!
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Dec 27 2006, 01:59 PM
wahehe..akala siguro nila +50 sa hit agad...solve solve un kung ganun noh..sarap sana ganun n nga lang..ahahah!!

hahaha. oo nga. so let's say nasa minimum hit rate ka lang which is 5% ang effect ng SB is magiging 7.5% lang siya. di rin tatama. :lol:
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w8 nga pala yan din ung isang part na naguguluhan ako eh..pano ba ung computation nun...heheh!!
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Dec 27 2006, 01:22 PM
yeah. and the higher your dex is, the higher the effect of sonic acceleration on your hit rate. just be reminded that sonic accel isn't +50 hit, it's +50% hit.

r u sure?... /heh paps my kasama ako 40 base dex with a total of 60 lahat with buff na..kng 99+60= 159 dba?...eh kng 50% yan edi 239hit rate dba?...so paps kng my kalaban ka na 70 base agi eh ilan ang total nyan?..lets say 90..base na 99flee+90agi+30 sa dodge edi 219flee rate..kng ganyan ang flee rate at hit rate na masyado malayo ang deference bat miss?...mas mataas paps ang hit ate ha!!!..HINDI YAN 50% lolz..+50 lng yan......
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Dec 29 2006, 12:34 PM
r u sure?... /heh paps my kasama ako 40 base dex with a total of 60 lahat with buff na..kng 99+60= 159 dba?...eh kng 50% yan edi 239hit rate dba?...so paps kng my kalaban ka na 70 base agi eh ilan ang total nyan?..lets say 90..base na 99flee+90agi+30 sa dodge edi 219flee rate..kng ganyan ang flee rate at hit rate na masyado malayo ang deference bat miss?...mas mataas paps ang hit ate ha!!!..HINDI YAN 50% lolz..+50 lng yan......

80+19 here kpg may buffs
kulang pa last job x_X

pero malaki effect sa high dex :D

edit:
IMO feeling ko sa sonic accel
kahit 1dex ka 50% chance tumama and 50% chance miss
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d paps..mga 30dex na SD type d alaga mka tama sa 60agi pro mga 10-20%chance to hit
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kaso panget din nmn ang pure sb na sin x kxe sonic blow nga lng alm nya kng d na cya nag grimtooth syang dn kasi di lang naman sonic blow ang malakas na pamatay ng sin x meron din sila killer smile
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comment lng me >.<

papi demonfury ok ung build mo ha ganyan sugest saken ni katran 130 str /e2
max str is my policy pag dating sa sinx heheheh
ganyan din kc build ko 130str wkaokoko

warning ko lng para sa mga high agi cguro i reregret nyo yan hehehe pwera nlng kung "breaker" ka ng emp, pra nmn sa mga killer type cla ang mag reregret nyan ...prang sayng sa stats kc pag dating nang skill ng sinx "sonic accell"~?? (tama ba) liliit ang silbe ang agi hehehe 50% tataas ang chance rate ng pagtama. at pag dumami ang "maya purple card" e2 ang panahon na magdadalawang isip na ang sinx lumapit hahahahah~!!!!!!! kaya chance is better have a high damage SB. at pra din sa mga mahilig mag GT, yes to str ehehh


max str + str equips + high dex + SL = "monster SB" baka sumikat ka pa d2 hehehe prang keemo style pra sa mga LK i mean "oucH"
ps~ no meging pa yan ha >.<


opinion ko lng poh ~ peace ~
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Dec 30 2006, 10:49 PM

comment lng me >.<

papi demonfury ok ung build mo ha ganyan sugest saken ni katran 130 str /e2
max str is my policy pag dating sa sinx heheheh
ganyan din kc build ko 130str wkaokoko

warning ko lng para sa mga high agi cguro i reregret nyo yan hehehe pwera nlng kung "breaker" ka ng emp, pra nmn sa mga killer type cla ang mag reregret nyan ...prang sayng sa stats kc pag dating nang skill ng sinx "sonic accell"~?? (tama ba) liliit ang silbe ang agi hehehe 50% tataas ang chance rate ng pagtama. at pag dumami ang "maya purple card" e2 ang panahon na magdadalawang isip na ang sinx lumapit hahahahah~!!!!!!! kaya chance is better have a high damage SB. at pra din sa mga mahilig mag GT, yes to str ehehh


max str + str equips + high dex + SL = "monster SB" baka sumikat ka pa d2 hehehe prang keemo style pra sa mga LK i mean "oucH"
ps~ no meging pa yan ha >.<


opinion ko lng poh ~ peace ~

sakit sa mata nung kulay ng font mo amp!!

haha

ung dun lng sa sinabi mo na baka sumikat ka pa dahil sa build na un... :lolwave:
sisikat ka lng kung magaling kang pilot tlaga diba :blink:
130str ka talaga malamang kung sb type sin x ka
kaso may sonic accel naman di mo masyado kelangan ng dex lalo na kung lagi ka pang may SL mas maganda parin para sakin ung may agi
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sken nde mo need ng mataas na str since anjan na ang SL..... 100 to 110 total str w/ buffs eh ok na... masyadong madaming stat points ang masasayang kung max str....
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IMO
inde mo need ng max str dahil madaming buffs ngaun ang nagppalakas ng bawas :D
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Hit Rate = 80 + Base Hit Rate - Defender Flee

Sonic Acceleration 50% Hit Rate Bonus = Hit Rate * 0.5

Sonic Blow Hit Rate = SA Hit Rate Bonus + Hit Rate
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Yomi di pa kinumpleto e. =))

SinX w/ 50 Dex vs. SinX w/ 90 total agi + mocking

% to hit using SB = (Hit - Opponent Flee) x 1.5
= {[50 (your Dex) + 99 (your Level) + 80 (constant)] - [90 (oppoinent Agi) + 99 (opponent Level) + 40 (Increase Flee) + 20 (mocking)]} x 1.5
= (-20) x 1.5
= minimum hit = 5% x 1.5(sonic accel) 7.5%

kahet 70 yung dex mo 7.5% chance to hit ka lang sa 99 sinx with 90 agi kahet pareho kayong level 99. kasama na dun yung sonic accel. so kung maxed out yung str mo sayang lang siya at mapipilitan ka gumamet ng jur with mummy cards, meaning bawas din yung damage mo. madame pang ibang uses ang Agi tulad ng GT spammability. sobrang important saken ng GT, 2nd best skill ng sinx toh IMO next to cloaking. ;)

ang dameng kakainin na stat points pag maxed out str. assured na yun na mejo lower yung agi mo lower yung dex mo. so kahet mas malakas SB mo siguro matatamaan ka pa twice or thrice ng kapwa mo sinx at bibigay ka rin. whereas mga 1/13 lang yung chance mo na tamaan siya. /no1
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in short..... aanhin mo ang str kung "miss" ka naman... =))
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Dec 31 2006, 02:24 PM
in short..... aanhin mo ang str kung "miss" ka naman... /heh

ididisplay mo sa poring =))
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although...

Situation 01:

Sinx01 (Pure SB type)

99 base str
100 total dex (80+20 ~priest buffs included)
45 base vit
Weapon: +10 Triple Ancient Jur

Target: Thief class character
Flee: 280 (roughly 90 base agi w/ flee increasing equipments such as Nine tails garment)

Hit Rate = 80 + Base Hit Rate - Defender Flee

= 80 + 199 + 60 (3 mummy cards) - 280
= 59%

Sonic Acceleration 50% Hit Rate Bonus = Hit Rate * 0.5

= 59 * 0.5
= 29.5%

Sonic Blow Hit Rate = SA Hit Rate Bonus + Hit Rate

= 29.5% + 59%

Your Sonic blow hit rate against a character with 280 flee is: 88.5%

-First of all don't tell me that you'll be doing a sucky SB damage with a Triple ancient jur since I for one is using one and I can do a decent SB against agi chars with it and can still 1-hit kill w/ Soul link

Note: Pure SB sinx builds sacrfice agi to invest points into dex to increase their hit rate making them as fragile as SD sinxs.

Just remember that flee is a great counter to SL-SB an exception nga if you're facing that "rare" pure SB sinx build and those sinxs with Phreeoni <_<
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yeah i see your point. but what i was trying to point out was that pure SB builds shouldn't be mistaken with maxed out Str builds. because in essence, maxed out Str gives you less agi and less dex which makes your hit rate with SB even poorer. but if you sacrifice agi for dex and Str, like you said the sinx would be a little more fragile. success would then depend on your patience and piloting. /heh since you'll get hit by an SB on the first try for sure. /no1
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Dec 31 2006, 05:56 PM
yeah i see your point. but what i was trying to point out was that pure SB builds shouldn't be mistaken with maxed out Str builds. because in essence, maxed out Str gives you less agi and less dex which makes your hit rate with SB even poorer. but if you sacrifice agi for dex and Str, like you said the sinx would be a little more fragile. success would then depend on your patience and piloting. /heh since you'll get hit by an SB on the first try for sure. /no1

paps ung pure SB dont nid max str?...
hey,how about SD type?...mas lalong sayang ang stats nla kase 2 stats ang nilalgyan nla pra tumaas ang damage ung int at str..eh kng SB type ka STR lgn focuse mo...dba?...
d mna kelangan mgdalawang isip...hehe
balance mo nlng ung AGI,DEX,VIT mo... /heh


just my opinion
PEACE~OUT
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