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Master Diwa's Official Statement
Topic Started: May 26 2006, 02:11 AM (4,041 Views)
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D ba common sense na paniwalaan ang evidence kesa sa statement lang? :D
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fantazae
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gumawa na ako ng statement...

sa mga humihinge ng evidences... hay yan nalng ba alam nyu? nde ko na kayo babarahin regarding evidences baka masabihan pa ako ng feeling lawyer... tyka sa mga off topic eto nalng...

it's not all about evidences... but of course the layman know nothing of rules on evidences that is why they always asks for some... so ok i would feed your soul...

i've got none to support my claim... but at least i would try to convince people specially MD that it wasn't me... my best ace against this is sincerity and hoping that MD be enlightned...

that's it!

evidence evidence... /pif

to the one who said that he lost his respect for Coalescence... i am sorry bro! but you musn't... assuming i did this unacceptable things... it's just me and not my guild. I'm sorry if your respect for the guild dwindled if not lost... but try to be open minded... its just me!

to aLL Coalescence... sorry guys! i never saw this coming!

now babalik ko lang ung evidence evidence na yan... not to MD but for those who speak but knows nothing... for those who speak but never listens and always fails to analyze... come on show me some evidence that i did hack MD and that i did type that message? yes you have proof, of what? of me sending a message to MD, but me hacking MD? do you have the what you so call evidence? what if i lets say i admit i sent him that message, but coincidentaly MD got hacked? coincidence... i might claim!

kung wala kayong evidence na ako nag hack kay MD at ako may gawa ng message na yun... wag na rin kayo magdada-dakdak dyan... kaya nga i'm trying to explain eh tpos andyan kayo.... nakikisawsaw kayo eh, ako pinapasikat sa mga pangyayaring ito ah, wag makisawsaw!

i did not ask for evidences... because i understand what MD feels and i analyze and knew that he is not making things up... next time before you speak... do not think first, invest in your mind first because how could you think if you don't have THE tools? you THINKING makes things worse!
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<jo>
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Rafflesia
d ba common sense na ang mang hack ka tapos aamin ka para may evidence?
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MasterDiwa
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No One Can Except Me!
This will be my last post in my topic. As I have said, the evidence is strong sabihin nyo man na frame up or not. I will clear wizzkid's name, make a public apology and delete this topic myself IF and only IF there is a strong counter evidence that proves me wrong.
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<jo>
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d ka ba nag babasa ng boards for 1 week? ehehe ask lng.. kasi last week pa ung msg kung sakali.. dun ko nkkta ung flaw..
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<jo>
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wizzkid statement..

http://prochaosguild.com/index.php?showtopic=11925

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MasterDiwa
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<jo>
May 26 2006, 10:33 AM
@diwa
d ka ba nag babasa ng boards for 1 week? ehehe ask lng.. kasi last week pa ung msg kung sakali.. dun ko nkkta ung flaw..

pasilip silip lang just to check standings. ^^ too busy lately. And I do admit na nawalan din ako ng gana magbasa.
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fantazae
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May 26 2006, 10:25 AM
D ba common sense na paniwalaan ang evidence kesa sa statement lang? :D

evidences can be planted... edited... umm... made? even faked!

pero statements that are sincere and are true... you can feel it... it doesn't need Eistein to figure out a person's sincerity... that you can't fake!
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SoulTempest
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Hack cases are an old issue here in Ragna. Last year Wauks, Diwa, and Weighteless were hacked, but even with their ip trace evidence no one believed them or listened to them. Now there is evidence, very condemning evidence but there is also a sincere statement otherwise. If we were in the court of law, we know what should happen, but we're not, we're in the ragna boards, so take everything as you will nalang. Everyone relax :good:
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Retrolock
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If ragnarok accounts can be hacked, is it fair to assume that accounts here at chaos boards can be also hacked? And if jax' account here here was indeed hacked, is it also fair to assume for the hacker to use it for malicious purposes? Because the PM made no sense whatsoever other than to ruin jax' reputation.


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[Moderator]Nazgul
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I'm putting my hands off this, since this is a personal matter between two major players here in Chaos. Please respect their talk and DO NOT make the situation any worse.

Sa mga "ALIPORES" diyan:

Manggatong kayo at MAKAKATIKIM KAYO. There is NO NEED to politicize this issue any further than it is now. NOBODY and I MEAN NOBODY knows THE WHOLE STORY.

Sa mga nagiimply na planted ang evidence as a DEFENSE OF THE GUARDIANS OF THESE BOARDS:

WE CANNOT
1. Open PM Folders or use other accounts of people.
2. We cannot create Boards Accounts using Admin Powers WITHOUT Date/Time Stamps. That is, we cannot create accounts at all.
3. PMs DO NOT have IP Addresses of where they were sent from.
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Lance008
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fantazae
May 26 2006, 10:40 AM
evidences can be planted... edited... umm... made? even faked!

pero statements that are sincere and are true... you can feel it... it doesn't need Eistein to figure out a person's sincerity... that you can't fake!

Yet statements can be lies as well... A statement with an evidence is far more believable than a statement regarding one's feeling when the readers don't know if you're telling the truth or not? In today's world, it ain't that hard telling a lie.
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MasterDiwa
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Good day again to all Chaos Citizens.

I have read Wizzkid's official statement and he has contacted me thru Yahoo Messenger:

fantazie_17 (5/26/2006 10:57:33 AM): MD sorry to bother u
fantazie_17 (5/26/2006 10:57:38 AM): pero gusto ko lang sabihin na nde ako un
fantazie_17 (5/26/2006 10:57:48 AM): and if ever magkaroon man ako ng evidence
fantazie_17 (5/26/2006 10:57:54 AM): i'll prove my innocence

I'd like to remind everyone that this is nothing personal. Pero madali akong kausap. Even without evidence, I will accept your apology as an act of good faith and dahil may pinagsamahan din naman tayo kahit papano sa YM. No hard feelings man.

On a side note, I'd like to address the leaders of Alliance guild to instill more discipline in some of your members. *looks at BoyKunat's intriguing sig and avatar*I have high respects for you and kuya Makmak, I hope you don't let your members stain the 2005 Chaos Champion's name.

This issue has been resolved. I am locking this topic now.
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Waukeen
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Nazgul
May 26 2006, 11:03 AM
I'm putting my hands off this, since this is a personal matter between two major players here in Chaos. Please respect their talk and DO NOT make the situation any worse.

Sa mga "ALIPORES" diyan:

Manggatong kayo at MAKAKATIKIM KAYO. There is NO NEED to politicize this issue any further than it is now. NOBODY and I MEAN NOBODY knows THE WHOLE STORY.

Sa mga nagiimply na planted ang evidence as a DEFENSE OF THE GUARDIANS OF THESE BOARDS:

WE CANNOT
1. Open PM Folders or use other accounts of people.
2. We cannot create Boards Accounts using Admin Powers WITHOUT Date/Time Stamps. That is, we cannot create accounts at all.
3. PMs DO NOT have IP Addresses of where they were sent from.

Simple question lang, who are you calling alapores?

Konting ayos naman diyan.
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[Moderator]Nazgul
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Maybe I used the wrong word. Pasaway would be better. I needed the connotation of them being very much the "conspiracy theorist" and very "defensive" when it comes to their guild.
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Kazander
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fantazae
May 26 2006, 10:40 AM
evidences can be planted... edited... umm... made? even faked!

pero statements that are sincere and are true... you can feel it... it doesn't need Eistein to figure out a person's sincerity... that you can't fake!

natawa ako dito ... can sincerity be measured??? Iiyak iyak ka lang ba sa korte e masasabi ng wala kang kasalanan?

Basta RPC dami talaga nangyayari :wacko:
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