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The Biochemist with a Wizard's Heart..; a guide for Acid Bomb Biochemists..
Topic Started: Apr 18 2006, 12:52 PM (11,693 Views)
TheHush
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astiG!! /ok
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-Kidwar-
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Only a fool wants what he can not have.
galing ka naman /gg
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[Moderator]her Ricky
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nice guide, wala lang ako Alchemist /heh

parang sa katapusan nang RO kahit yata Super Nobis mas malakas na sa Wiz

ahahaha /heh
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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actually despite the overwhelming counter-wiz skills of the other classes i believe that all it takes is a good strategy, good attitude and good equipments maybe.

@ guide
brewing success is changed, raised by a certain percentage. but we retained the actual calculations by the time this guide was made (about april 2006). this is to provide actual base success ratings.
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::Seikuu::
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kaya ba mag solo ng int/dex build na creator?
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[Moderator]her Ricky
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May 23 2006, 11:15 PM
kaya ba mag solo ng int/dex build na creator?

3 lang yan

1. may mag boost sana.

2. mag bot sana.

3. kaya na nyan mag solo pag may AD na, sa tingin ko lang
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::Seikuu::
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how exactly mag sosolo cya? with a fireblend? :nea:

lvl 45 plng high merchy ko lols
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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Eternal Angel
leveling o MVP hunt?
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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hmm yung soloing depende sa leveling spot. but the term soloing is more applicable in boss hunting.
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xhararee
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It would be worthwhile to note that equipping a Forged Haedonggum ONLY gives you an INT bonus of 3. It does NOT bypass Immune. I don't know if it's a bug or something that Gravity put in deliberately, but only weapons with inherent elemental property (Fireblend, Ice Falchion, Hellfire) and those endowed with elements (Aspersio, Cursed Water, Lightning Loaded, etc.) bypass Immune. Forged Elementals do NOT bypass Immune. You can try this out in PVP to see for yourself. We've tested it and it's true.

Andre Larva Cards aren't implemented in pRO. Neither will they be implemented in Lighthalzen. So mentioning them as a possible way to get +5 INT with Haedo [2] is wishful thinking. I'd like them to be implemented too. Cheap substitute for Bazerald.

For a Creator who wishes to go pure PVP, FCP would be the best skill to get. Not only does it protect against Meltdown, it also ensures that you'll survive against your fellow Creators. Assuming you have GR Armor.

If you wish to go MVP/WOE, Slim Pitch would be a good way to go. And you can max out the Coats for Armor and Weapon or Shield.

Although most of the builds mentioned in the guide were Hybrid builds, there are a lot of people who went Extreme with their Creators' stats. Some people didn't add LUK as they have a friend or a separate brewer to make bottles for them. They also felt that STR would be wasteful as they have Enlarge Weight 10 and a Cart.

It's good to note that most people would want a Creatot that was really GOOD at a few things than an all around one that was OKAY at brewing/MVPing/PVPing. So the build not mentioned in the guide would be ...

Solo MVP / Pure WOE

99VIT
99INT
25DEX

Acid Bomb is based on INT and not mATK. So the more INT you have, the better. 25DEX may seem a little. But we have to remember that AB is only 1 second cast time. And it's spammable. Yes there's a 1 second delay but it's more of an animation delay. After you cast, you can cast again. You would need at least 75DEX to make the cast time 0.5 seconds. That would be a waste of points for this build.

Just my 2 cents. I have a Creator in Sakray and in the Main Worlds. :D So I'm not picking this out of thin air.
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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i did not mention any "extreme" builds you are pertaining to because i know their pros and cons. 99vit? yeah good 2000 something pitch, extra ordinary resilience, good ailment immunity. what's after that? you mentioned pvp? does AB hurt? what about SD+ Ice Pick? Spiral Pierce?

25dex.. uhm what could i say about this. oh yeah. elemental bolts take basically 2secs to cast. slower cast= more damage recieved. about that separate brewer i got that point but where not talking about luxury here and this is an open guide meaning we could encounter people who can only afford to maintain a single character even though bot is everywhere. so i beg to differ with your 75dex is a waste, it is not.

plus being GR equipped no longer saves your skin. Coated? no matter. and it can be achieved with good DEX. and im not even talkin about Acid Terror.
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xhararee
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Umm ... you seem agitated. :) Since as you stated this was an open guide ... then the "Extreme" builds deserve mentioning. An "open" guide shows people all the possible ways they could go to.

As for GR ... I mentioned it in relation to battling against a fellow Creator. Obviously a Creator with GR + FCP will win over a Creator without a GR via AB.

And Creators don't really use Spellswords in PVP. If someone has died from a Creator's Spellsword, then they thoroughly deserve to die. They probably just didn't know how to play their character.

As for me saying that 75 DEX is a waste ... Please read my statement again. I said 75 DEX is waste for "THIS BUILD". Meaning if a person was to go EXTREME VIT and INT, 75 DEX would be a waste. I never said it was a waste WITH OTHER BUILDS.

Don't let your temper get the better of you. Passion rules Reason. Relax and read my statements again. Then maybe you wouldn't get so agitated. :D

And since you're attacking the "EXTREME" build that I mentioned, I guess that would mean you agreed with all the things I said before the said EXTREME build. We can agree on that.

That build was put there as an option. One that RICH Creators who can afford to be LEECHED and who have a separate BREWER can use. Again ... the build was ONLY mentioned because it didn't receive any attention in your guide. In the future, when making a guide, it would be good to show people ALL the options. Not just those that you agreed with. It's a free world and giving people choices could only be for the good.

Cheers. :D
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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well im not making a guide to lure them into more disgrace than advantages. primarily guides don't need to be linear as dictatorship. besides, if a player is interested in making anything they should also make supplementary research of their own. guides don't come in a single day, they should be made with in depth analysis and not just mere stat distribution.

actually the GR-equipped Creator has the same chance of surviving as a non-GR equipeed Creator. even in 1 on 1.

i don't encourage spoonfeeding sorry.
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Sieghart
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Easy ka lang SA nasobrahan ka ata sa kinain mo /heh

As for the guide it serve as a road map for beginners.

As for the extreme build it is still the player decisions to make.

99VIT/INT only suits well in MVP but in WoE/PVP I beg to differ.
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KiLLiNMeiGaN-II
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Jun 23 2006, 04:13 AM
It would be worthwhile to note that equipping a Forged Haedonggum ONLY gives you an INT bonus of 3. It does NOT bypass Immune. I don't know if it's a bug or something that Gravity put in deliberately, but only weapons with inherent elemental property (Fireblend, Ice Falchion, Hellfire) and those endowed with elements (Aspersio, Cursed Water, Lightning Loaded, etc.) bypass Immune. Forged Elementals do NOT bypass Immune. You can try this out in PVP to see for yourself. We've tested it and it's true.

Andre Larva Cards aren't implemented in pRO. Neither will they be implemented in Lighthalzen. So mentioning them as a possible way to get +5 INT with Haedo [2] is wishful thinking. I'd like them to be implemented too. Cheap substitute for Bazerald.

For a Creator who wishes to go pure PVP, FCP would be the best skill to get. Not only does it protect against Meltdown, it also ensures that you'll survive against your fellow Creators. Assuming you have GR Armor.

If you wish to go MVP/WOE, Slim Pitch would be a good way to go. And you can max out the Coats for Armor and Weapon or Shield.

Although most of the builds mentioned in the guide were Hybrid builds, there are a lot of people who went Extreme with their Creators' stats. Some people didn't add LUK as they have a friend or a separate brewer to make bottles for them. They also felt that STR would be wasteful as they have Enlarge Weight 10 and a Cart.

It's good to note that most people would want a Creatot that was really GOOD at a few things than an all around one that was OKAY at brewing/MVPing/PVPing. So the build not mentioned in the guide would be ...

Solo MVP / Pure WOE

99VIT
99INT
25DEX

Acid Bomb is based on INT and not mATK. So the more INT you have, the better. 25DEX may seem a little. But we have to remember that AB is only 1 second cast time. And it's spammable. Yes there's a 1 second delay but it's more of an animation delay. After you cast, you can cast again. You would need at least 75DEX to make the cast time 0.5 seconds. That would be a waste of points for this build.

Just my 2 cents. I have a Creator in Sakray and in the Main Worlds. :D So I'm not picking this out of thin air.

is it true that you Acid Bomb can be elemental, through sage / priest buffs alone? therefore it is better than having a Monk / Champ?

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Unfrozen Armor >> Lightning Loader :: greater damage
Undead Armour >> Aspersio :: greater damage
Ghost Armor >> Any Elemental Buff :: greater damage
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is this really the case? /no1
:yahoo:
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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/swt no. where did you get that idea?
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KiLLiNMeiGaN-II
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inherent elemental property (Fireblend, Ice Falchion, Hellfire) and those endowed with elements (Aspersio, Cursed Water, Lightning Loaded, etc.) bypass Immune.


this... :wacko:


:(
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It would be worthwhile to note that equipping a Forged Haedonggum ONLY gives you an INT bonus of 3. It does NOT bypass Immune. I don't know if it's a bug or something that Gravity put in deliberately, but only weapons with inherent elemental property (Fireblend, Ice Falchion, Hellfire) and those endowed with elements (Aspersio, Cursed Water, Lightning Loaded, etc.) bypass Immune. Forged Elementals do NOT bypass Immune. You can try this out in PVP to see for yourself. We've tested it and it's true.


this is regarding the means of bypassing immune, thus negating the 20% reduction from AB.
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KiLLiNMeiGaN-II
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SniperAngel
Jun 23 2006, 03:15 PM

this is regarding the means of bypassing immune, thus negating the 20% reduction from AB.

technically, thats neutral damage?
so does it make your damage elemental... :D
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[Moderator]SniperAngel
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one special feature of AB is that though the damage is neutral it can bypass immune by wearing weapons with innate element with them.
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