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| Porcu | Feb 11 2017, 11:38 PM Post #1 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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Posted Image Frederiksborg Castle, Hillerød, North of Copenhagen, Denmark Full spring. The flowers were in bloom and the late afternoon sun gave a warmth that forced an unconscious smile on the face of the Duke of Jutland. Christian was a proud Dane and linked to the old Kings of Denmark through his bloodlines in the Oldenburg Royal House. Relatively young, he had ascended to the rank of Duke only six months prior with the utter collapse of the Papal State of Cologne. Truthfully, he was happy to see the Papists gone. "Christian, dear cousin!" a voice called from behind him. Christian turned to find his eldest cousin Frederick, Duke of Holstein-Gottorp. The two had grown together and seemed like brothers. Frederick, compared to Christian, was shorter and less defined. Nonetheless, the Duke of Holstein-Gottorp commanded attention. Immaculately dressed, Frederick marched confidently toward his cousin and opened his arms wide. He embraced Christian with genuine warmth. "It's good to see you, Frederick." "Same, cousin." Frederick replied before shifting position so that he faced out toward the large garden. "What a beautiful day..." "Indeed; I hope that our discussions here with our brothers to the North will prove just as fruitful as the flowers and seeds of the garden." Christian said, standing beside his cousin. The two Danes, senior members of the Danish Council of Nobles, soon came to the central topic - the reason for the assembly of nobles from Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. Several months prior, at the end of the previous year, a series of great and terrible events shook the Porcuian Republic to its core. The President of the Republic himself - an individual whom many still spoke of in whispers - was lost, among many, many others. The upheaval within Porcu coincided with the utter collapse of the Papal State, the latter leaving the peoples of Denmark, Southern Sweden, and Northern Germany to pick up the pieces. Now was the time to forge a path forward. A servant of the castle entered the large room where Christian and Frederick stood deep in conversation and announced the arrival of the Swedish and Norwegian nobles. A few minutes later all were introduced and greeted each other in a large dining room. The Danes welcomed their Scandinavian brothers and asked for everyone to be seated. "Please, make yourself comfortable." Christian began. "Lunch will be served soon and there is much to discuss." - - - The meal had essentially ended over an hour ago, but the Scandinavian royals continued their fervent discussion. Emotions occasionally ran high, but the wine was likely a major contributor. "I agree that something has to be done, but I'm not convinced that your plan will work." Olaf the Marquis of Mandel said sharply. "Harald II Magnusson, my dear late sovereign, would have wanted to see a strong, independent Norway." "We're not suggesting anything less than that." Frederick replied, extending a hand and arm for emphasis. Olaf's eyes narrowed. "We Norwegians have never been considered an equal to you Danes - or you Swedes! First as merely a secondary partner of Denmark during the days of our personal union, then as a spoil of war for Sweden. No..." "I do believe that our brother has a point." one of the Swedes said in a low tone. Gustaf, Duke of Scania, had been personally invited to take part in the initial discussions between the Scandinavians along with his brother Alexander, Duke of Västergötland. Christian was growing increasingly frustrated. "Again...Our proposal is to unite our lands and our people so that we can remain strong and grow together." "Yes, but under whose authority?" Olaf asked immediately. "Our respective assemblies will elect a monarch to lead the Union. We can place limits, if you wish." Christian replied. "And what if one of us, again, decides to abandon the others?" Olaf countered, his venom, however, directed at the two Swedes. "The world is changing rapidly, Europe especially." Frederick said. "It would be, collectively, in our best interest to remain united." "We are not the only ones meeting." Christian added, his tone much more serious now. "The Germans are likely to be discussing the exact same thing we are. What will our response be to a union of Germanic states? Division? Distrust?" "I agree with you..." Olaf said. "Which is why I, and my brothers in Oslo, are only prepared to enter into a Union with Denmark and Sweden if another power joins." "Which would be?" Christian asked, his voice betraying his hesitancy at knowing the answer. "Porcu." Both Danes nearly spat out their wine. The Swedes, however, sat passively and waited for Christian and Frederick to recover. "Wait..." Frederick said, noticing the distinct lack of surprise on Gustaf and Alexander's faces. "You knew about this?" "It is the wish of our sovereign that our three nations unite under the banner of the Porcuian King." Alexander began. Gustaf added, "Porcu is Scandinavian, but also not. There is no question that Porcu has the ability to help develop and power Scandinavia." "And..." Olaf interrupted before finishing his glass of wine. "Keeping us in check. Roman blood still courses through their veins - they don't tolerate very much nonsense." "When did Carl decide all this?" Christian asked. "And on our behalf!" Frederick added. "The Porcuian King is an intelligent and kindhearted man." Gustaf replied. "Right, but so are we." Christian said. "But he is Porcuian." Alexander replied. "The one nation with the capacity to rule and defend Scandinavia is not represented at this table. My King understands that with the growth of the Habsburgs, the uncertainty of the Romanovs, and the possibility of the Little Germanies uniting, our collective prosperity demands that we unite with Ariminae." "Denmark will have a King again." Gustaf added. "Something she has not enjoyed for a long time because of the Colognian State." Christian and Frederick sat still and pondered the counter proposal of their Scandinavian brothers. Then, "What does the Porcuian King have to say?" "I spoke with him by phone before departing Uppsala. He will only accept if elected as King by an assembly of our respective nations' nobles." Gustaf answered. "Yes, but what of his government? Surely, the republicans in Ariminae will not tolerate this?" Frederick said. "That is when we negotiate." Olaf replied. There was a heavy silence for some time before Gustaf leaned forward. "So, shall we convene a Grand Council?" Frederick looked over at Christian. "Perhaps this is truly our best path forward, cousin." Christian let out a deep sigh. He had hoped to convince his brothers for a different course of action, but it seemed that he was the last to accept what, in truth, seemed a reasonable proposal. "Very well; let us convene this council." "To the future King of Scandinavia!" Olaf said without noticing that his glass was empty. This evoked laughter from those gathered around and upon refilling their glasses they gave a proper toast: To the peace and prosperity of Scandinavia and to the health and wisdom of their future King. |
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| Porcu | Mar 4 2017, 11:48 PM Post #2 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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Amalienborg Palace, Copenhagen, Denmark The weather was not nearly as welcoming or beautiful as that fateful day a month prior. Whereas the rain had greeted the day with a gentle, mist-like shower, it now descended from the heavens without respite. Despite only having to walk from his motorcar to the palace entrance - a distance of less than 10 meters - Christian's lower pant legs were soaked by the rain. Once safely inside, the Duke of Jutland asked for a replacement pair to the brought, in addition to new shoes and socks. The day's proceedings could potentially last some time and Christian was not willing to sit through them with soaked feet. A month prior a call had gone out to the major nobles of the Nordic realms. In a fast-changing world, unity was required. A Grand Council of Nobles was called in Copenhagen to discuss the form this unity would take. Nobles from Iceland, Greenland, Norway, Finland, Denmark, and Sweden were in attendance. As was the Porcuian King. The grand event drew the attention of more than royalty: politicos across Scandinavia and the Continent turned their gazes to Copenhagen, if only to get a glimpse at what was to come. There was great hope among those sat inside the pristine palace. A large hall had been modified in order to accommodate all those in attendance and the air was filled with the joyous tones of brothers and cousins related by blood and by a shared history. The proceedings were coordinated by the two principle hosts, the Duke of Jutland Christian and his cousin the Duke of Holstein-Gottorp Frederick, and got off to a smooth start. There were some initial disagreements voiced by the Icelandic and Greenlandic delegation, specifically with regard to their standing within the 'Union'. Having spent a great deal of their history under the Danish boot, they were willing and eager to push for as many concessions as possible. While the Danish contingent was not immediately willing to concede to the listed demands (primarily granting Iceland complete autonomy from Denmark and Greenland an expansion of self-rule powers), the timely and private intervention of the Porcuian King softened their opposition. To accept the demands would mean a stronger union; the Icelandic and Greenlandic nobles now felt they had something to defend. By the time that lunch was ready to be served the deliberations of the Council of Copenhagen had produced some clear results: a political framework for the Union and guarantees for the protection of the Union. Additionally, the blossoming Icelandic and Greenlandic enthusiasm for the Union project was palpable and served to strengthen the bonds between the Nordic people. This was most noticeable for the royal Finns in attendance. They had come from across Europe, having fled their homeland long ago at the rise of the communist state of Vanderwelle. Their numbers had dwindled over the years and only a fraction of the former Grand Duchy was represented at the present Council. Still, their motivations were clear and they made no attempt to disguise their hopes for their return to Finland. The rest of the afternoon was spent in debate on who the sovereign of the new Union would be. The Danes, led by Christian and Frederick, pressed for a King of pure blood, whose line could be traced back to the ancient kings of Scandinavia. Contrarily, a majority of the remaining nobles favored the proposal put forward by the Norwegian and Swedish delegates, which would see the Porcuian King crowned and his authority enshrined over the realm. The Porcuian King was asked to speak at several points during the discussion and politely declined in every instance. His commitment to "impartiality" was treated with distrust by the Danes but won him enormous favor with the other nobles. In the event of a vote it was likely that the Norwegian and Swedish proposal would have a majority of the nobles, but the procedural rules agreed upon by all at the start of the Council would not allow a forced vote. All disagreements and reservations had to be dealt with beforehand. A short recess was proposed and was summarily agreed. As many nobles stood from their chairs, stretched, and filed out of the hall, the Porcuian King made his way from the corner where he sat towards the Danish delegation. He waited for a moment when Christian was free and unoccupied before gently catching his arm. "Might I be able to speak to you?" Decimus Maxentius IX asked. Christian looked back at the Porcuian for a few moments as if to survey him before agreeing. The two exited the hall together, but turned in the opposite direction from where the others were walking and standing. "I'll save you some time, Your Majesty." Christian said once the two nobles were out of earshot. "My support cannot be bought or traded for." "I spoke with Gustaf and Alexander after your first meeting and thought that they had been able to gather your support." Decimus Maxentius IX replied with confusion. "They did." "Then what changed?" Christian turned to Decimus Maxentius IX and looked him directly in the eye. "You and yours are not Scandinavian. I would rather my sovereign be Swedish or Norwegian if he cannot be Danish, related by blood and by our common bond to this land and to our ancestors. Political realities be they what they are, but I have thought again on the wisdom of submitting myself and my country to you and Porcu." Decimus Maxentius IX nodded slowly, not out of agreement but with understanding. He recognized this. He had just lived through this. That long, cold night several months prior came back to him. "I am not going to pressure you, Christian. I agreed to accept the crown and throne of this new Union only on the condition that it be approved by all. I have no intention of altering that agreement. If the Danes do not wish for me to be their King, then I will not seek it." Christian shifted and straightened his back. "Then it seems that Scandinavia will be born and grow independently of Ariminae." Just as Christian was turning back to return to the hall, the Porcuian King spoke again. "I think you should know that I take this potential responsibility very seriously. I am happy as King of the Porcuians, but we are not as different as you may think. We are Scandinavians as well. Your blood flows through my veins, as Porcuian blood flows through yours. I did not embrace this truth until recently; it took a violent break to shake me out of the mentality that we are singularly defined. Many innocent Porcuians died at the hands of those who were convinced they were ridding the Republic of a weakness. Your own history is filled with wars against your cousins; wars between the Danes and the Swedes, the Swedes and the Norwegians, the Norwegians and the Danes. Is it not time to set aside our differences and work together for peace and prosperity?" + + + Christian sat in silence throughout the final remarks on the central issue facing the Council. His expression betrayed an inner dialogue and reflection on what he had heard from the Porcuian King earlier. Perhaps he was right; in the end, Denmark would have a King again and it would be one fully supported by the other nobles and peoples of Scandinavia. Another recess was called; however, this one was meant to allow each delegation to deliberate among themselves and to decide on their final vote. The Danish nobles moved to a nearby room and, immediately, the room was filled with chatter. Unable to think, Christian reigned in the others. Whereas many of the minor nobles stood firmly against crowning the Porcuian, Christian now found himself wavering. Frederick saw this change in his cousin and wondered what had caused it. "Do you think I am proud, cousin?" Christian asked, his tone unsure and his voice low. "You have much to be proud of, Christian." Frederick replied. "I don't understand why you are filled with doubt now." "Our Nordic and Scandinavian brothers are eager for this union and see in Decimus Maxentius a capable leader. Is it possible we are blinded by our own pride?" Frederick stood silently for a few brief seconds. Truthfully, he had supported his cousin's decision to oppose the Norwegian and Swedish proposal out of a sense of duty to family. He personally took no issue with the ascension of Decimus Maxentius IX and very much liked the monarch after a brief encounter. Honestly, he was relieved to see his cousin wavering in his opposition. "Yes." Frederick replied. "We have the opportunity to do something great not only for Denmark but for all of Scandinavia." Christian's gaze shifted from Frederick to the floor and he nodded his head in silence. "What are you two discussing over there?" a minor noble called out from across the room. "Are we ready to return to the Council?" another said. "What is our vote to be?" a third chimed in. Christian stood, looked his cousin in the eyes, smiled, and gently squeezed Frederick's arm. "Our vote will be in support of the proposal." + + + In the end the vote to accept the Norwegian/Swedish proposal to make Decimus Maxentius IX king of the new union was unanimous among the delegations. By nightfall, the Union Act of Copenhagen was agreed to and carried the signatures of each noble in attendance. A united Scandinavia was born. |
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| NRE | Mar 6 2017, 01:14 PM Post #3 |
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OOC: I am assuming this is public knowledge but if not Porcu, just let me know and I'll delete this post ^^ IC:
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| Porcu | Mar 11 2017, 03:46 PM Post #4 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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The gears were finally beginning to lock into place and move, pulling the chain of events with it. What had been achieved only a short time ago in Copenhagen was monumental; still, that event and the events that would follow were not yet set in stone. A great deal still needed to be done if the blossoming Scandinavian state was to survive past its infancy. This is precisely why the Porcuian King (and newly crowned King of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Iceland) was to be found back in his native country. The streets, while still stained with blood, were clear, at least. The violent shock of that cold and fateful winter day were still being felt throughout, as billions of denarii in wealth and economic activity was wiped out. Gone. Disappeared in those rising black clouds of smoke. Although he hated to think in those terms, Decimus Maxentius IX knew that a united and invigorated Scandinavia would provide just the economic means to get the Republic back on her feet. Austria was a known enemy and her soldiers were already at the door, but now Russia - the otherwise tame bear of the East - threatened to act against the Scandinavian dream and, potentially, against Ariminae as well. The former was the King's top priority and he knew that his realm would not last long without support. Politically, the Republic finally had a new government. After recounting ballots and triple-checking their accuracy and veracity it was determined that the chairwoman of the Greens Nicé Sempronia Gracchus and the Senior Consul Servius Aemilius Cesca would progress to the second round of the presidential election. Aemilius Cesca won unexpectedly and by a very thin margin. The Greens contested the results, but the courts found no evidence of attempts to influence the final tally. As seen by recent events, it was no surprise that the election was razor thin and that the new administration would preside over a deeply divided nation. With regard to Parliament, the situation was almost identical. The combined «Union of the Left» ticket, a shared socialist/communist platform, won by 1/100th of a percentage over the Greens, with the ultra-conservative and nationalist National Coalition taking third. Only the heavy presence of the Gendarmerie in the streets of the Republic prevented further rioting and violent protests. However, daily mobilizations did take place and further contributed to the economic and financial grinding of the country. In the end, only a promise to reverse a law granting a parliamentary bonus to the party who finished first was enough to quell the unrest. A repeal law was passed the following week in only three hours without any debate and little regard to procedural rules, nearly prompting the Constitutional Court to rule the law as unconstitutional. Many within academic and political circles felt that President Aemilius Cesca's personal intervention with members of the Court prevented that from happening. This was the backdrop for the crucial meeting between the new Porcuian administration and the legates of the United Scandinavian Realm. The Porcuian President, Consuls, and one Praetor met with the Scandinavian King and a single representative from Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, and Iceland. Aemilius Cesca, out of respect for Decimus Maxentius IX and because of the immense possibilities for the meeting, decided to have the meeting in the Forum itself. The Presidential residence pass through the election violence relatively unscathed and so it remained a pristine picture of Porcuian glory and splendor. The Scandinavian delegation arrived exactly on time and was brought to a room bordered on one end by massive windows along its length and bordered on the other by a giant tapestry depicting one of the ancient Porcuian Kings surveying a growing capital more than a millennium ago. A solid wood table with gold inlay was found in the center, a pair of chandeliers hung above but didn't need to provide lighting quite yet. The Porcuians stood and bowed together upon arrival of their guests. Aemilius Cesca was the first to speak and actually embraced the King. "Welcome, friends to Ariminae. Decimus Maxentius, it is good to see you." A warm individual, the King reciprocated the President's embrace and his welcome. "It is good to see everyone here. Please let me introduce everyone..." Refreshments were carted in just as Decimus Maxentius IX finished the general introductions. There were a few minutes of light banter, though it did not take long before the conversation turned to the issue at hand. "Decimus Maxentius, I believe we are here to discuss the birth of a new Scandinavian state and its ties to the Republic. I have already spoken with my colleagues in the Consilium and we would like to extend our official recognition to this new state." President Aemilius Cesca said. "That is very welcome, indeed." Decimus Maxentius IX replied. "However, we would like to discuss more than that, more than recognition, or economic treaties, or diplomatic partnerships. We are here to make a proposal." This raised the eyebrows of those sitting opposite the Scandinavians. "Oh? And what is this proposal?" Consul Publius Cornelius Scipio asked. "Unification." the Danish Duke of Jutland replied. "Or rather, integration." "What?!" Consul Quintus Caecilius Metellus Indusicus said in astonishment. "What exactly do you mean by «integration», Decimus Maxentius?" Aemilius Cesca asked. "Precisely that: to join the new United Scandinavian Realms under the banner of the Republic." Theodorus Palilicius Graecus, a newly elected Praetor, slowly sat back in his seat. Already he was beginning to see various possibilities on what the future might entail, and he saw great benefit in almost all of them. "We will accept annexation by Porcu if a number of conditions are met." Gustaf Duke of Skåne replied. "First, our sovereign, the King of Porcu, will remain the Head of State of Scandinavia. Second, each nation will have full control over its educational system..." "We know full well what you Porcuians have traditional done to newly incorporated territories." interrupted the Norwegian delegate Olaf, Marquis of Mandel. "Third..." continued Gustaf. "Hold on." Cornelius Scipio said, raising a hand. "We cannot possibly agree to the first term. Surely, you would have known this?" "The King is the glue that binds the Nordic people together." the Finnish legate said. "He must remain our sovereign, or else the proposal is void." "He can remain your sovereign, without issue." Palilicius Graecus answered confidently. "He can retain all his titles, but within the Republic's legal structure he will simply be «Governor of Scandinavia»." "Yes...That would work." Aemilius Cesca said slowly. "Your other condition is accepted." "We have more." Gustaf replied. "We will look at those later." Caecilius Metellus Indusicus said. "As far as we are concerned, the only sticking point was having a Kingdom within a Republic. If Praetor Palilicius Graecus' proposal is acceptable to you all I believe we may have a deal." The Scandinavian legates looked first at each other and then at their King. Decimus Maxentius IX did not betray the excitement he now, suddenly, felt coursing through him. "But your governors only serve a limited term." Christian said after a moment. "Yes, and while we cannot make him rector provinciae in perpetua due to the Constitution, we can easily renominate him when his appointment is over." Palilicius Graecus replied. "We can also amend the Lex Amenia to specify this peculiarity within the broader context of Governors." President Aemilius Cesca added. Another few moments of silence passed before the King spoke. "I accept this proposal." + + + A few days later an official response was given to the Russian statement with regard to Scandinavian, now Porcuian, claims to Finland. Official Communiqué The Parliament and People of Porcu do not accept Russian claims to Finland. The Finnish diaspora, a result largely of the Communist Republic of Yshurak, and the Finns and indigenous peoples of Finland have an unalienable right to self-determination. In exercising this right the Finns have elected to join their Scandinavian cousins as part of Scatinavia. As a province of the Republic, the inhabitants of Scatinavia, including Finland, enjoy full Porcuian citizenship and are afforded the full strength and defense of the Republic. Russian attempts to exert imperial claims over newly enshrined Porcuian citizens and to the territories of Scatinavia will be defended against, by force if necessary. |
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| NRE | Mar 14 2017, 12:48 PM Post #5 |
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_________________________________________________________________________ Russian ships within the Baltic Sea began to mobilize from their ports in Saint Petersburg and northern Estonia. They maneuvered themselves in a provocative postures within the Gulf of Finland, enough to show a measure of force though leaving reasonable doubt that they were merely "exercising" close to their own territorial waters. At the same time his majesty's government quietly sent world to the Porcuian embassy in Saint Petersburg. Their ambassador's presence was requested immediately to the Winter Palace to meet with the Emperor and his government. |
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| Porcu | Mar 19 2017, 08:08 PM Post #6 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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St. Petersburg, Russia The Porcuian Ambassador to Russia, a position which brought forth both envy and contentedness from those who did not have that esteemed title, was a tall man with square shoulders and a lean figure. He had a pair of thick glasses and was already bald. Two tufts of hair sprouted on either side of his head and were swept back like the wings of a bird. Appius Claudius Marcellus, elder brother to the recently elected Praetor, wore one of his better suits and swept his remaining hair back with both hands while he gazed in a mirror. He had little direct experience with the upper echelons of the Russian nobility or administrative hierarchy. Representatives between Russia and Porcu were not often called for in person. For the most part they simply resided in each country and waited for the occasional invitation to dinner. They simply existed. President Aemilius Cesca and the rest of the cursus honorum had had a detailed discussion with Ambassador Claudius Marcellus and made their position very clear: compromise would be sought, but only if the Russians were willing themselves. When pressed, the Ambassador was told that any referendum or representative assembly would likely split Finland north-to-south, with the northern provinces and municipalities falling to Ariminae and the southern falling to Moscow. What would not be acceptable is a Russian claim to the whole of Finland. Because of the nature of the discussions, the Ambassador was granted full imperium, i.e., a power vested by the state in a person to do what they consider to be in the best interests of the state. While Russian naval maneuvers had begun in earnest in the Gulf of Finland, the Ambassador was discreetly transported to the Winter Palace. With whom to meet he did not know. |
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| NRE | Mar 28 2017, 01:41 PM Post #7 |
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The Winter Palace... The Winter Palace was particularly quiet when the Ambassador was quietly walked in from a rear and more private entrance. Shown all the honors and rights of any emissary of a foreign land as he entered the building. First greeted by a servant of the house, he was shown through the luxurious hallways and brilliant marble staircases of the house. Upon the walls were all the priceless riches and artifacts of an Empire that had, more or less, lasted for generations. Though its reach did not stretch so far as it did under the many Emperor whose portraits adorned the walls, their faces nevertheless were a reminder of the strength and ability of the Russian people when true and unbridled desires motivated them forward. They also spoke to the unbroken continuity of their most ancient of governments. It took only a few moments from the time he came in from the cold of Saint Petersburg to make it to the double-doors of his destination. Posted Image Servants opened the doors to the white drawing room and offered the Ambassador entrance. The room was as exquisitely decorated, more so than any hallway they had passed to this point. Flowers were always kept in the rooms of the palace, a request of the Empress even during the coldest and most harshest days of winter. "Please your honorable sir, if you would make yourself comfortable they shall in due time be with you." The Servant left, the doors closing behind him and leaving Appius Claudius Marcellus to admire the art and architecture of the room as well as go through his own thoughts while he waited. His wait was short as the doors of the room again opened only moments later and a man of more rotund stature enter the room, his face fully bearded and his only for now showing but a touch of grey. Approaching the Ambassador with a genuine small smile and a hand outstretched, the two men shook in a firm manner. "Ambassador Appius Claudis Marcellus I am told" Vladimir Kondakov said, his voice low, almost reverberating against the walls of the room. "It seems the Prime Ministry keeps me a busy man and have yet, to speak with you and your office as of late but it seems events have required us to speak though I honestly would have liked it to but under more agreeable times." The two men dispensed pleasantries rather quickly before the Prime Minister offered the Ambassador a seat and the two men got comfortable. The Prime Minister reluctantly knew very little about the Porcuian Emissary, unfortunate for a man who prided on know more than most. He was aware the man's own blood held high station back in their homeland but this was also common fact. What his favorite food was, where he liked to spend holidays, if he smoked, drank, or took whores at night were a mystery of Kondakov. So long as these things remained mysteries, he could hold little favor over a man. Still, Kondakov was a man of many talents and if he couldn't use a man's desires to his advantage then he would use his own charisma, charm, and warming disposition even if some of it was more a pretense than anything else. "Ambassador his Imperial Majesty, Ivan VIII, By the Grace of God, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias has summoned you here to the Winter Palace to discuss a matter most dear to his heart and that is the question of Finland." "Now officially we have made our case most plain in this matter through our official correspondence from the Foreign Ministry" the Prime Minister continued. "His Imperial Majesty firmly believes that Finland has, since the signing of the Treaty of Fredrikshamn, remain a realm held by the Russian crown. That it has, since the war of Communist Aggression (Russian Civil War) been under occupation by Communist forces does not negate the fact that legally it is still bound to his majesty's temporal rule. After all, the Russian monarchy has remained in continuity since the signing of said document and has never, during such time, relinquished its rule." The Prime Minister than raised a finger. "That being said, let it not be forgotten that since the establishment of the Grand Duchy of Finland, Russia has afforded the Fins with great autonomy. The very Duchy itself was create through the will of the people as voted at the Diet of Porvoo. Therefore, it is in the eyes of the Russian crown and its government that if the Fins wish to depart from us, let it there for be request through a true referendum of the Finish people and then officially presented to his majesty. Could Ariminae have any true objection to such a most basic democratic process?" |
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| Porcu | Apr 10 2017, 08:52 PM Post #8 |
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Ambassador Claudius Marcellus sat very still as Prime Minister Kondakov spoke, his breaths short and quick. He would never have guessed that the Russians would open discussions with a turn to the primacy of self-determination. If anything, he had fully expected Moscow to dig deeper into its historical claims to Suomi. "Well, no..." the Porcuian Ambassador began. He sat straight in his chair, his legs together. "There are important practical matters, however, that need to be addressed. With the collapse of the Yshurakan state came a near complete collapse of the society. Currently, many Finns struggle with basic necessities. Central administrative agencies are defunct. Would Russia support a joint Porcuian-Russian humanitarian project in Finland to distribute food, clothing, medicine, and other necessities? "As for the matter of a referendum, there is a practical question as to the specifics. How does Moscow envision the particular ballot questions? My own government is supportive of a three-part referendum: first, asking the Finns if they wish to remain under the agreement of the Diet of Porvoo and the Treaty of Fredrikshamm, second, asking if they wish to establish an independent Finnish state, and third, asking if they wish to join the Republic of Porcu. "Then, how does Moscow envision the results affecting the provinces and municipalities? Are the results only going to apply to the territory as a whole or will there be territorial discrimination?" |
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| NRE | Apr 13 2017, 01:39 PM Post #9 |
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Prime Minister Kondakov gave a nod of acknowledge, his face covered in concern though whether it was a facade or not was hard to tell. "I see no reason why H.E.A.R.T cannot be called to get involved in the matter of humanitarian relief" he stated finally. "They are a non-governmental organization after all and it would seem more appropriate to funnel the necessity of life through them to the people than through out own means. After all, we wouldn't want to be accused of buying favors with the fins I should think." "Now as to the matter of this plebiscite, I believe his majesty's government would be inclined to agree with what your government sees as a the primarily questions. However, would clarify that before anything can truly be decided, that the Fins must first answer the question of whether or not the seek independence from Russia. If they seek to break the terms of the Diet of Porvoo and the Treaty of Fredrikshamm, a formal petition must be created and sent to his majesty, the Emperor, who then has the authority to rule on such things. Should he deem it worth, he may indeed grant independence at which time a second referendum can be had to determine the Finn's future." "Saint Petersburg belief is that the provinces of Finland should be taken as individual political units, and should be heard individual and not as a whole. If certain provinces wish to remain loyal to the crown they should be allowed to do so and let the others leave peacefully, if that is the Emperor's wish. To be honest Ambassador I cannot say with great certainty what the Emperor is to decide once a petition for independence is presented. There is so much of the Emperor's plate for him to consider in this matter." Kindakov's face showed signs of dismay, again whether it be a facade or not was hard to tell as he was a politician after all. "The decline of the Colognian papacy, for example, as put the Emperor in a complicated spot. After all, the Emperor and Pope of Cologne had agreed upon a treaty concerning unrestricted passage through the Danish Strait, securing peace in the Baltic. We signed it, Yshurak signed it, peace was good. Now that the Papacy is gone, the straits are once again thrown into uncertainty and his majesty, the Emperor wonders what will become of unrestricted travel in this part of the Baltic. Perhaps if Ariminae was willing to make some assurances, then the Emperor's mind would be put into great ease and he would have better clarity to judge Finish independence with." |
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| Porcu | May 14 2017, 10:20 PM Post #10 |
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Ambassador Claudius Marcellus nodded slowly as the realization of the Prime Minister's words began to set in. His brow began to bead with small droplets of sweat and he came to understand that his answer at this moment would carry a significant amount of weight, regardless of his own preferences. "You may inform His Majesty the Emperor that he has no need to worry about the Baltic - at least with regard to Russian access to the Danish straits." The older Porcuian ambassador nervously took a sip of water before continuing. "I take your suggestion to use H.E.A.R.T. as the best option and am happy to know that my government can count on Russian support for a humanitarian mission to Finland. I believe that we have no disagreement on the major point: the Finns will determine their own future. Now, circling back to your last point, may I inform Ariminae that the Emperor will look favorably to a Finnish petition to abolish their ties with the imperial crown?" Ambassador Claudius Marcellus was willing to concede the fractional referenda results that Kondakov had suggested, but knew that it was a minor point next to soothing Russian anxiety. In that moment he hoped he had been successful. |
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| NRE | May 16 2017, 07:24 PM Post #11 |
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"Yes Ambassador" the Prime Minister stated, 'I do believe that you can indeed express to your government his majesty's willingness to concede to the Fin's own choices in the matter of independence. However, before you go...." The Prime Minister turned around, calling for an aide who was undoubtedly waiting just outside the door. Sure enough, a young woman entered to which the Prime Minister smiled before stating "will you tell him that we've concluded." He left it at that, undoubtedly creating more questions than answers for the Porcuian Ambassador as the woman again disappeared behind the large doors. Kondakov rose from his seat, a devilish-like grin on his face as he extended his hand to the Ambassador. "Ambassador Claudius Marcellus it has, as always, been a pleasure to speak with you on these matters. Before you go, though, there is someone who would like to also say thank you for you and your government's understanding in these matters." At about that moment the doors of the room opened again, the woman emerged only to announce his majesty, the Emperor into the room. The Prime Minister bowed as the Ambassador did as well, if only for courtesy sake. "You must be Ambassador Claudius Marcellus" Ivan stated with a grin. "Yes your majesty, this is indeed the Ambassador" Kondakov answered while smiling. "I take it these talks have been fruitful?" the Emperor questioned. "Indeed your majesty, indeed" said Kondakov, his tone light and bouncy despite the rugged, naturally deep tone of his voice. "Let it never be said that the two greatest powers in Europe cannot come to a compromise. We, as you instructed, have conceded to a referendum and have furthermore agree to help send aide to our Finnish friends. The Ambassador, for his part, has agreed that Ariminae will continue to honor Russia's unobstructed use of the Baltic Straits." The Prime Minister words stated the matter as if it were a fact, somewhat throwing the Ambassador under the bus as he'd said nothing truly definitive. "Good, good" said the Russian Emperor, "then surely peace will be retained here in northern Europe. Of course, Ambassador, please express to Ariminae that I fully intend to see this in writing but of course, but understand that such treaties take time to properly build. In the meantime, Russia will take the Republic on its word as a matter of honor and respect." |
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| Porcu | May 18 2017, 04:56 PM Post #12 |
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The Porcuian Ambassador was floored. He had no idea that just beyond the ornate doors the Tsar himself had been listening in and following along to the conversation. His appearance was almost as frightening as it was surprising. Ambassador Claudius Marcellus bowed deeply and considered extending his hand for a moment before quickly turning it aside. He listened intently to the Emperor and could not help a smile escape. "You do me a tremendous honor, Your Excellency, with your presence. As the Prime Minister himself noted, let it never be said that our two countries cannot level with one another honestly and arrive at a meaningful and peaceful solution. My government is eager to settle the Finnish question, allowing for full self-determination of course, and will be most pleased to hear of our implicit agreement regarding the Danish straits. I know the new President, Servius Aemilius Cesca, sends his best to Your Excellency and the Russian People. If I am not being too forward, I hope I may forward your regards as well?" |
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| Porcu | Jun 21 2017, 10:31 PM Post #13 |
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A couple of weeks had quickly passed since the high level meeting between the Porcuian Ambassador to Russia and the Russian Prime Minister and the news of an official Finnish request for independence was setting Ariminae abuzz. Presently, the Republic of Porcu encompassed nearly the whole of Scandinavia, and its borders now extended as far west as Greenland. Yet, the hopes and aspirations of those present at the grand meeting in Copenhagen - the same council which had declared the Porcuian King the unifier of the nordic peoples - had not entirely come to fruition. A separate national assembly was organized by Finnish nobles to petition the Russian crown for a referendum on independence. The collapse of the communist regime centered in Vanderwelle had dramatically altered the lives of Finns living within and without the country. Many had suffered tremendously during those initial weeks and unfortunately many were continuing to suffer from lack of food, water, and medical supplies despite ongoing efforts by the H.E.A.R.T. The international effort was predominately a joint venture by Porcuian and Russian authorities, although many international partners also pledged their support. It was subtle, but there was undoubtedly an effort made by both Russian and Porcuian officials to influence the perception of their respective nations in the eyes of the Finns. It was in this precarious internal state of affairs that the self-appointed Finnish Diet drafted a formal petition to the Russian Tsar requested that a referendum be allowed to move forward, possibly voiding the terms of the Diet of Porvoo and the Treaty of Fredrikshamm, granting Finland independence, or even transferring sovereignty to Porcu. Importantly, the Diet was officially recognized by both Ariminae and Moscow. Yet, there were those within Finland which did not recognize the Diet and did not afford it the ability to legally represent themselves. When word of such disagreements reached Ariminae it was quietly suggested to the Finnish nobles which dominated the Diet to collect signatures from their localities supporting the call for the referenda. The power center of the Republic now waited the Russian response. Ambassador Claudius Marcellus tried to reassure nervous parliamentarians and caution them on moving too quickly. The next few weeks would be critical. |
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| NRE | Jun 22 2017, 11:48 PM Post #14 |
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OOC: Hey Porcu I've moved the capital of Russia from Moscow to Saint Petersburg. IC: The Winter Palace, Saint Petersburg... Posted Image The grand throne room of the Winter Palace seemed to roar with the various voices that now filled it halls. Everyone in his Imperial Majesty's government was present, from the high seats of the Imperial State Council to the representatives of the people from the Duma. Now shortly after the high profile meeting between Procu and Russia, word had spread across Saint Petersburg of the deals of that had been struck. Though Prime Minister Kondakov had personally been tight-lipped about the agreements, he'd seen to it that certain parts were allowed to be exposed by aides and other underlings. He wanted the Emperor's government to know that something was a foot but not to know the very particulars of it all. This control of information was something the Prime Minister was accustomed to and relished in his expertise in the matter. Now those brave and curious enough to know all there was about the matter came to him for information. They knew though, as everyone did, that information in Saint Petersburg did not come cheap and that anything the Prime Minister was willing to say would come with a hefty price. In the throne room the Prime Minister stood near the front of the crowd, nothing was between him and the throne itself. Some of the cameras and television crews were even as close as the Prime Minister was and that was how Kondakov liked it. The room remained restless as everyone waited for the Emperor who at last emerged from a side door, dressed in full regalia to sit upon the throne. With cameras rolling as the Emperor sat, the entire room fell silent almost immediately and all eyes were of the Emperor and Autocrat of all Russias. A pin could have been heard clanging against the floor before the silence was broke by Ivan himself. Ever word the Emperor spoke seemed to capture the ear of everyone who heard it, more closely with each passing syllable. "Lords of the Court, Gentlemen and Lades of the Duma, my distinguished government, and people of the Russian Empire. I, Ivan Alexeovich Romanov VIII, Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias; sit before you today on this day with a humble heart and a profound sense of duty that must be undertaken. In 29 March 1809, in consequence to the Russian Empire's defeat of the disastrous Swedish Empire, the Finnish people came under the protection of this crown at the behest of the Diet of Porvoo, which swore allegiance to our predecessors and their governments. For a great deal of time afterwards the Finnish people and Russian people lived in harmony as our predecessor's granted to the Fins unprecedented freedoms and self-determination all while safeguard them with peace and security. Russia as an Empire is and has always been one and indivisible. Likewise the Grand Duchy of Finland has been am inseparable part of the Russian State. That is has been under the occupation of Communist forces since the Civil War has been a great stain for our people, the Finnish people, and the world. Their plight then as it is now, has never been outside the worry and mind of ourselves nor that of any of our predecessor's since the Civil War." "It would been our grandest hope and desire to see our Finnish brothers and sister returned to us. That they may once again enjoy the fruits of the Russian Empire just as we do, to feel the prosperity and safety of the Russian Empire again. However, we are a tolerant and understanding crown, we understand that times have changed and that once was cannot always be restored. Just as the Diet of Porvoo in 1809 swore its allegiance and the allegiance of the Finnish people to our predecessor, a new Diet has been called. The Finnish people have spoke and they have request upon us the right and privilege to hold a referendum to determine their future. We in our part as a ruler of all the people cannot and will not ignore this request and thus have granted this request to be effective immediately. Furthermore, we encourage all Finns to come out in earnest to determine their future so that all voices, big or small, may be heard. Should the Finnish people choose independence then this crown shall accept this to be the will of the people. Should the Finnish people choose to remain then they shall be welcome back with open arms. Regardless of the outcome, we remain loyal to our pledges to the Finnish people and those pledges of our predecessors. We shall continued to support all relief efforts and continue to ensure that no fin suffers from hunger, lack of shelter, or of clothing. May God have mercy of the Finish people and may God's light guide them towards their path." The throne room erupted in thunderous applause as the Ivan finished, an applause that seemed to last a lifetime. The stage, it seemed, had now been set and the Finnish people given their right to decide. Of course whether or not it was truly their choice was a debatable topic of interest. If the Prime Minister had anything to say about it, then it wasn't truly up to the Fins. Already he was working behind the scenes, ensuring that Russian goods and aid were coming almost around the clock. Furthermore, he was already using agents within the country (leftovers from the Yshurak's own civil war that Russia was meddling in) to sway public opinion in Russia's favor. If the Porcu thought that Russia was going to willing give up on Finland without a fight, as even the Emperor's own words suggested, then they would find themselves sorely mistaken. |
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| Porcu | Jun 29 2017, 10:36 PM Post #15 |
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OOC: My bad, NRE. I apologize. IC: Rauma, Finland This large city sat on the western edge of Finland and had provided Yshurak with a major sea port into the Gulf of Bothnia and prime access into the Baltic. The city's inhabitants were hearty folk, used to the heavy, salty chill that blew in from the gulf on occasion. Like many of their countrymen and women they were not familiar with attention, sudden or prolonged, and did not take kindly to the massive influx of foreigners to their shores following the collapse of the Yshurakan regime. Supplies for infrastructure and medicines were one thing, but people were another. Opinions of the Russians were nearly unpredictable. Asking one person seemed to have no bearing on another's opinion, despite the work by Russian journalists and political scientists to uncover a pattern with regard to age, sex, income, geographical location, or any other number of demographic. Many Finns had positive things to say of the Russians and the Tsar, but many also had equally negative things they were eager to share. Opinions of the Porcuians were largely muted. Many Finns had no context and little personal experience with either a Porcuian, specifically, or the Republic, generally. Some were concerned that these curious peoples from across the Baltic would only sully Finland with their oddly inflected language and haughty culture. Yet, in the run-up to the referenda, a vast majority of young Finns seemed to increasingly pin their hopes on the progressive promise of the Republic. For their part, Porcuian parliamentarians spoke in not-so-subtle terms about the advantages that would be forwarded to Finland should it, first, vote to dissolve its ties to the Russian crown and, subsequently, vote to join the Republic. This only occurred a handful of times before President Aemilius Cesca made sure to silence any further "provocation" (as Russian officials so charmingly complained to Ariminae). Importantly, fresh materials continued to rush into Finland and reconstruction of roads, schools, hospitals, universities, and the like progressed with international coordination and cooperation. The stage would soon be set for the Finnish referenda and in the last leg of the campaign the effort of prominent Finns would prove decisive. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jun 30 2017, 10:29 PM Post #16 |
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OOC: Is the Finnish referendum public knowledge yet? I wanted to issue some comments on behalf of the Baltic State. |
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| NRE | Jul 13 2017, 02:20 PM Post #17 |
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OOC: I would say yes RD as the Emperor's announcement was meant for all Russia, Finland, and the world. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jul 20 2017, 08:33 PM Post #18 |
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A Swedish community had existed in Livonia for many centuries, from the Swedes who had taken part in the Northern Crusade, and especially from the time when the Baltic country had been part of the Swedish empire. Swedes had continued to play a role in the Baltic German community during the times of the Russian Empire, and during the period of independence of the Baltic State following the expulsion of the Dominion from the Baltic lands. In fact, the local Swedish community was almost unremarkable - so long had they been part of the tapestry of the Baltic State that their culture and influence was felt in the basic mores of the Baltic Germans, the knighthood and the City Germans alike. But, in the last few generations, the ancient community of Baltic Swedes had been augmented by the sudden influx of Finnish Swedes, refugees in origin. Members of the landowning class of Finland, they had fled expropriation and annihilation at the hands of the Finnish Bolsheviks, who had imposed a red terror and transformed the Grand Duchy of Finland into Red Yshurak. These families had gone to many places, including Russia, but a large portion of Finnish Swede families had settled in the Baltic country, where their scions continued to live. They participated in the life of the Baltic Swedish community, where they were welcome, as well as the larger Baltic State. But they also maintained particular Finnish Swede institutions, in order to maintain the memory of their homeland. The foremost institution of this community was the Finland Swedes' Cultural Association, FSCA, which had two branches based in Riga and Ösel. Upon hearing of the institution of a referendum in Finland, the FSCA branches wrote long letters to various addressees, including the governments of Russia and Porcu, and the various influential groups and institutions of Finland. They also sought audiences with prominent members of the Baltic noble corporations, and soon, their cause was heard within the War Council itself. After some deliberation, the Baltic State, while, perhaps to the surprise of many, not seeking a confrontational tone, decided that it would be just to advance the cause of these exiles, who had sought refuge and protection in the Baltic country all those years ago. Hence the Baltic State drafted the following public statement: "The Baltic State congratulates the Finnish nation on their independence from Bolshevist terrorism. Furthermore, the Baltic State would also warn the Finns against too easily surrendering their newfound independence. However, the Baltic State makes no claim to decide the fate of the Finnish nation, and will recognize any result at which is arrived lawfully. "Bearing in mind those facts, the Baltic State would draw attention to the cause of the exiled Finland Swedes resident in the Baltic State. Many of these people, while at home in the Baltic State, still yearn to return to their rightful homes, which were illegally seized by the Yshurak communists. Individuals and families fled under threat of their lives. The Baltic State believes that the time is right for these people to be repatriated, and proposes the following procedures: "1) All Finland Swede refugees in the Baltic State, as recognized by the FCSA, will have the right to repatriate to Finland. 2) The decision to repatriate will belong to the recognized head of family, and will apply to the entire family unit. 3) A fair and just deadline will be set to exercise this right, prior to the referendum. After the referendum, the new Finnish state will have the right to recognize repatriation at its decision. 4) All adult Finland Swedes who exercise the right of repatriation will be allowed to vote in the referendum, and will receive citizenship in the new Finnish state and renounce their rights in the Baltic State. 5) All adult Finland Swedes who renounce the right of repatriation will maintain their rights in the Baltic State. 6) Finland Swedes who repatriate to Sweden will be restored their legal lands and chattel, to the extent possible, that were illegally expropriated by the Bolshevist regime. 7) Any necessary adjudication regarding particular cases will be handled jointly by the Baltic State and the new Finnish state. 8) The new Finnish state will be defined as whatever political entity governs Finland following the referendum. "The Baltic State believes that these conditions would be a fair resolution to the crisis of the Finland Swedes, that was provoked by the evils of Red Revolution. The Baltic States hopes that the Finnish people, as well as Russia and Porcu, will accept this proposal." Edited by Rhadamanthus, Jul 22 2017, 08:58 AM.
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| Porcu | Aug 1 2017, 11:15 PM Post #19 |
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In the lead up to the Finnish referendum Ariminae had largely accepted the proposal put forth by the Baltic State with regard to the Finnish Swedes and had lobbied for the newly minted Finnish Diet to accept as well. There was initial debate over the timing: the Porcuians did not want the influx of Finnish Swedes to affect the vote in the slightest and so pushed for repatriation to occur only after the referendum. The Finnish Diet was almost evenly divided on the issue but in an up-or-down vote the Porcuian position was taken as the official stance. In the end, Porcuian fears were misplaced. It would have mattered little if a group ten times the size of the Finnish Swedish population, all voting FOR integration with the Republic, had cast their ballots. The referendum results were an unmitigated disaster for Ariminae. The first issue, of independence from the Russian Crown, on which the entire hopes of the Porcuian effort lay, was decisively defeated. Throughout a vast majority of Finland the populace voted to retain ties to St. Petersburg. Only four regions voted in favor: Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland. Then, these four regions voted by overwhelming margins to join with the Republic. The results came as a sledgehammer to the powerbrokers in Ariminae. How had such a catastrophe occurred? Had not the goodwill of the Finns been secured? Were the private assurances of noble Finns within the Diet little more than blatant lies? Naturally, the Porcuian government sent out a press release that congratulated the Finns on their historic vote and for exercising their right to self-determination. A major relations campaign began immediately to dampen the almost instantaneous surprise and disappointment that echoed from all corners of the Porcuian political arena. The ever abrasive Spurius Tricostus Caeliomontanus, leader of the far-right National Coalition, was one of the first to call for the resignation of the President and the dissolution of the current government administration. The referendum result in Finland was a travesty and embarrassment. Calls began stating the undue influence of the Russians on the election and for the Republic to respond in a firm and determined manner. Similarly, yet from the opposite end of the political spectrum, members of the centre and centre-left bemoaned the failure of the Finns to break with the Tsar and embrace a new, progressive, more egalitarian future for themselves. It was chiefly a failure on the part of Ariminae to convince the Finns that Porcu was not playing the part of a conquering power but of a welcoming partner. As difficult as it was for international observers to take their attention away from reaction in the Republic there was still the unknown question of the Russians and how the Tsar himself felt. |
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| NRE | Aug 4 2017, 12:01 AM Post #20 |
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Saint Petersburg, Russia. The echo of footsteps was a common place in the halls of the Winter Palace. What was not was the pace at which these particular steps were keeping at as they edged themselves ever closer to the Emperor's personal offices. Ivan's aide prompting entered, announcing that the Prime Minister had come to meeting with his Imperial Majesty, at which Ivan naturally called him in. Vladimir Kondakov was not a young man nor was he a man of entirely good health as he carried far more pounds than he should and enjoyed some of the finer things in life, the same things that doctors warn you about. Generally, for him, he size and stature while not statuesque by any measure never the less served him well. He often used his robust size to bully his way into winning any conversation where his words alone simply could not strike the final blow. Short of wind he wiped the brow of his head after his gracious bow he more than accept the seat the Emperor offer him. "Your majesty I knew I had to come personally when I heard the news" he stated, only after several moments of heavy breathing. "I came as quickly as I could you know." "Of course Prime Minister, please what is it?" Ivan inquired. "Well your majesty, to put it simply we won" he stated with a great grin developing on his otherwise notably stoic, sometimes sinister face. The joy was not from the fact that Fins had so much chosen Russia nor that Russia could potentially gain so much. No his joy came from a more simpler reason, he'd beaten the damn republicans. "We beat them your majesty, we beat them at their own game." "Well I will be da...." the Emperor stated, before catching himself, "and with the margin of error when it comes to these things?" "Oh most assuredly your majesty, most assuredly" Kondakov replied. "Their people on the ground helped the Finns check the numbers twice, ours did the same. The conclusion was almost unanimous though we did have some hold outs." "Oh?" "Provinces along the southern coastline, closest to Porcu proper and their capital. We're not sure if this was due to a higher concentration by them, to secure voters, or simply a fluke. Irregardless the rest of the country has voted to remain, and in essence restore, regal authority to you as it has always been." Ivan sat back in his chair, he himself could not help but smile. He'd taken a gamble giving the people of Finland the right to vote, not that he was oppose to the principal of the idea. His worries were more over how much influence the Republic was going to attempt to exert on the Finnish people, how much persuation they'd have with the people to renounce monarchy and embrace democracy. While he sat he wondered how the Porcu were taking it in Ariminae or more to the point, how their would-be king was taking this news. Though Ivan had never met Decimus Maxentius he knew he didn't care for him. He was an ornament, a King without a proper kingdom, and if he cared for the traditions of Kings he didn't show it. Yet, perhaps more than disliking the man he pity him, really for the same reasons. A king without a Kingdom....the reality had almost been Russia's once though thankfully for the Romanov dynasty, the White's held on and brokered a peace with the reds that ensure a continuation of the Empire. "I imagine I should make a statement then" Ivan stated finally, "It would be proper your majesty" Kondakov remarked, "though I would be cautious on what you say. I'd suggest that you request the Diet to decide the matter of these outlaying provinces. We agreed to accept the referendum but I think we and our Republican friends both believed this vote would be for the totality of the nation. That its been somewhat split is problematic for either side moving forward. The best course of action therefore, would be to allow the Fins to decide whether they're willing to let some of their own nation go." "So in essence make the Porcu look like the conquers than ourselves?" Ivan asked. "One could put it that way you majesty, but I couldn't possibly comment..." ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
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| Porcu | Aug 7 2017, 12:02 AM Post #21 |
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Posted Image Diet Building, Helsinki, Grand Duchy of Finland While not complete pandemonium, the atmosphere inside the Finnish Diet was certainly loud and unruly. Hailing from all parts of former Yshurak, now the reborn Grand Duchy, the members of the Diet were presently convened to decide the not inconsequential matter of the Finnish referendum. A large number of members were part of the Finnish nobility and had been, largely, secretly overjoyed at the results. It essentially solidified their new careers within the Empire and assured them that their newfound power (in having returned to their homeland following the collapse of the communist state) would be respected and cultivated, and not merely tolerated. The increasingly progressive legislation that flowed out of Ariminae had sown worry within the Finnish nobility just before the referendum. Even the sizable percentage that were initially positively against re-integration with Russia, for fear of replaying their historic subjugation and discrimination, came to the conclusion that alignment with Porcu would see their position erode and crumble away. Turnout was rather high across the country, notwithstanding the ethnic Sami who largely abstained from the referendum. There was no questioning the legitimacy of the results and, as stated by the Russian Tsar, the last issue was to decide the fate of the "fall-away" regions. The representatives from Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland were adamant that the Diet should respect their decision to join the Republic. Representatives from the rest of Finland, led by those of the capital region, countered that a division of Finland was out of the question and was not explicit within the issues presented in the referendum. Debate raged within the Diet over the course of two days, with no sign of a resolution. Votes that came up to officially settle the matter were either delayed by representatives from the pro-Porcuian regions or defeated through procedural measures by representatives from other regions which, while pro-Russian, did not like the idea of forcing a settlement on their fellow countrymen. The issue was deadlocked going into a third day of debate. Contact had been made between members of the pro-Porcuian regions and the Porcuian capital Ariminae with discussions revolving around whether or not the Republic would actively work to protect those regions that had voted for integration. The Porcuians, however, were not keen on arousing the anger of the Russians. Intelligence coming from the Continent suggested that the Austrians were preparing to move against the Grand Duchy of Marslava and, if that were the case, it would be foolish at best for the Republic to invite worsening tensions with Russia. In the end, Ariminae was non-committal, stating only that open aggression against the Finns in Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland would be met with Porcuian arms. This is enough for the Finns. During another long, tiring, and unproductive day in the Diet the representatives from the four regions that had voted for integration with the Republic of Porcu took the opportunity to convene amongst themselves during a recess. It was unanimously decided that they would proclaim their respective regions to be independent of the Grand Duchy and a part of the large, Porcuian province of Scandinavia. The declaration was made in front of the entire Diet and left those remaining with expressions of disbelief, anger, and frustration. Many shouted curses at the pro-Porcuian representatives as they exited the Diet building. It did not take long for word to reach the respective capitals of the two major competing powers. A short time later a general declaration was presented publicly by the Chairwoman of the General Council of Finland, who had been voted by her peers just minutes before.
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| NRE | Aug 10 2017, 03:24 PM Post #22 |
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The Border of Russia and Finland.... It had been 24-hours since the Emperor had order the diet to solve the issue of the apparent breakaway regions of Finland. In that time Ivan had consulted his government and his military generals over the best course of action with the rest of the restored Grand Duchy. The government and the military agreed that regardless of the Diet's decision regarding the independence of parts of Finland, that the Empire and his Imperial Majesty should assert their dominance over Finland. After all the overwhelming majoirty of Fins had voted to retain their status within the Russian Empire. It was only right that his Imperial Majesty should work without delay to ensure territorial integrity and security. Within hours the First and Second Army of the Saint Petersburg Military district were being mobilized. The First Army waited along the border as the first light of dawn began to sweep across the landscape. This was their signal to begin pushing into Finland proper. Border gates were taken down and Russian transports and tanks began filing into Finland's low country while cargo planes carrying units of the Second Army began air dropping troops into the northern country, starting as far north as Lapland and then further south. Posted Image While Russia's military forces began dispersing themselves, unopposed, across the greater Finland, Russian navy also maneuvered itself to secure the Gulf of Finland as Russian territorial waters. Whether on land or at sea, Russia was meet virtually unopposed as this military action was taking place. Word naturally traveled fast and soon the Diet in Helsinki and the government of Ariminae were made aware that Russia was on the move. At the same time several Russian aircraft made their way to Helsinki, an escort of Mil Mi-24 from Russia cross the great distance between Saint Petersburg to Helsinki, landing in the capital primary airport. Emerging from one of the aircraft was the robust figure of Prime Minister Vladimir Kondakov, accompanied by Internal Minister Helen Orlova, a few aides and some military figures as well. Securing transport the Prime Minister and other officials from Russia made their way to Diet building to meet with the Finnish Diet. Only hours before had their Chairwoman made the declaration for the independence of Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland. The unexpected arrival of the Russian Prime Minister startled some while it was a welcome surprise to others, especially the Finnish nobility. Shaking hands and making small talk, a podium was procured and setup on the steps of the building. No sooner had all the arrangements been made that press from all across the city came out to see what all the commotion was about. Taking to the podium Kindakov put on his best face as he address the members of the diet, the Fins, and the world. "Representatives of the Diet of Finland, People of the Grand Duchy, international guests... the long winter is finally over. For almost 70 years the lands of the Finnish people have endured the harsh and cold winter of communism but today marks the first signs of spring. In a closed and special secession of the Parliament of the Russian Empire, the results of the referendum were accepted and the Grand Duchy of Finland has been once again recognized by the Russian government as a territorial part of Russia. His Imperial Majesty, Ivan VIII wish to express is true happiness that the people of Finland have overwhelmingly chosen to stay in the Russian Empire and promises that such a decision will mark a return to security and prosperity for the Finnish people. To that end, Russian troops from the First and Second Army of the Saint Petersburg Military District have been deployed here with orders to secure Finland's natural borders." "His Imperial Majesty does express discontent with the ability of the Diet to definitively determine the outcome of those regions who seek independence from greater Finland. While the crown and government of the Russian Empire would have preferred to leave this issue to the Diet itself, it now becomes apparent that this issue is too sensitive for the Diet to handle alone as an impartial judgement must be made and is unfortunately impossible for the Diet to conclude. Thus the parliament of Russia has ruled on this issue, a ruling fully suported by the government and by his Imperial Majesty. On the issue of independence for the regions of Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland; the Russian Empire official accepts this declaration under the following conditions. Given the Grand Duchy of Finland is the legitimate and successor government of the state of Yshurak, the regions of Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland are hereby ordered to immediately surrender all property formerly owned by the state of Yshurak, short of the land itself which Russia recognizes as the property of the Fins of Ostrobothnia, Southern Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, and Southwest Finland. Once this conditions has been met, fully universal independence of said regions will be recognized by his Imperial Majesty, Ivan VIII." |
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| Porcu | Aug 16 2017, 10:25 PM Post #23 |
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| NRE | Aug 22 2017, 05:45 PM Post #24 |
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Diet Building, Helsinki, Grand Duchy of Finland Prime Minister Kondakov sat comfortable in the Diet Building, his arrival being applauded by the most loyal among the Finnish nobility, to the Russian crown. He'd hoped Finland's return to the Empire would be smooth though he also understood how inordinately stubborn the Republicans could be. Perhaps its the inherit instability in their system of government he often thought to himself when pondering the why. He wasn't pleased that the breakaway regions of Finland had rejected Russia's proposal though it was not necessarily unforeseen. After all Russia was demanding a lot but it also felt justified in its request. After all, these Fins were choosing to leave their homeland and culture behind to become apart of the great Republic. Surely Ariminae could replace what was lost and perhaps even improve on the otherwise sub-ad·e·quatet communist infrastructure. Luckily for the Prime Minister, this was not necessarily his problem alone. Another reason for Kondakov coming personally to the Finnish capital was to properly install a Governor-General. Marta von Platen was a high-ranking noblewoman among the Finnish Nobility, which was impressive enough given she was a woman. It did not surprise the Russian Prime Minister in the least that the Diet had voted her a emergency chairwoman as she was influential, especially now that the fear of jail time or worse at the hands of the Communists was gone. His Imperial Majesty believed she was the perfect choice for Governor-General, not simply because of her popularity amongst her peers but also because she was a woman, so surely that would win the hearts and minds of some of the more progressive elements in Finland and Russia. "Marta I have here in my hand an official decree by his Imperial Majesty, approved by parliament, naming you Governor-General of Finland" the Prime Minister stated as he rose from his seat, great the Finnish noblewoman, and then showed her to the desk. "By simply signing here you agree to all the powers and responsibilities therein. You peers have already approved you once, we have no fear that they won't accept you in this more official role." "Of course" Marta responded with gratitude, "I would only be too honored to fulfill this role." Grabbing a pen she quickly signed the decree, bonding herself to the resurrected highest office in Finland, save for the Grand Duke itself. "Excellent, excellent" the Prime Minister stated, "as much as I'd love to celebrate I am afraid you must get to work right away. You must deal with the breakaway regions before it is too late." "Does his Imperial Majesty not wish to accept their independence after all?" "No, no his Imperial Majesty is more than willing to accept it. We simply just require that the infrastructure of value be returned to the proper and legitimate Finnish government. Now this is simply Russia's wish but his Imperial Majesty also wanted me to stress that he does regard Finnish autonomy to be a high priority of his. He is will to defer to the judgement of the Diet and your office in this matter." "I understand, well I'll see if I can't sit down with representatives of the regions and come to some sort of resolve to this issue" the Governor-General explained. "Although, I am aware many of my peers don't wish to see these regions leave at all but could be appeased if your demands were met. I am not sure I can give up much without upsetting them in this matter but regardless I will do my best." "That is all Russia can ask of you Madame Governor-General" the Prime Minister stated. "I won't be staying much longer here in Finland as other matters of state require my return to Saint Petersburg. I have asked that security services provide support for your person and to have a direct line installed in your office to mine...."
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| Porcu | Aug 23 2017, 08:50 PM Post #25 |
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General Communiqué To Governor-General Marta von Platen, We accept the invitation to meet in Helsinki. I will be leading a small delegation for the Republic of Western Finland. Tarja Kiviniemi Chairwoman of the Governing Council of Western Finland + + + General Communiqué The Parliament and People of Porcu agree to send representatives to Helsinki to meet with Finnish and Russian counterparts. The Republic hopes for a peaceful conclusion regarding the issue of territorial and political sovereignty for Western Finland and will provide its utmost to that end. |
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