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| Comrade Queen | Feb 24 2012, 04:37 PM Post #76 |
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OOC: I think he was referring primarily to my presence, as it would effectively require "non-consent" if we were to follow your refusal to retcon. And considering Al Adib is his nation and not yours, you're not going to win that argument. He's accepted my view and rolling with it, and so that's that. Retconning is not "redoing," it's tweaking (as Al Adib said). "Redoing" would entail deleting all of the posts and rewriting them. When Marvel or DC retcon something, they don't gather up all the old comics and shred them and then rewrite them. Instead, they just assume "Poof! It's always been this way" and then go on with the story. IC: The Alexanderhaveniens pushed, but the Scythirians did not yield. In fact, they just pushed back harder. Indeed the enemy had militarized since the Dominion Wars, but Scythirus had always been militarized; they knew how to fight wars. Even now, the Alexanderhaveniens were exhausting their supplies in their eventually futile attempt to turn the invasion force back while the blockade at the Strait ensured that they would be sucked dry. All in due time, Alexanderhaven would feel the crush that the lack of freedom of trade caused. Scythirus had once felt that cruel mistress of a strapped economy from the sanctions imposed on it between the First and Second Wars of Succession, so they knew it was an effective tactic. And so, mile by mile, albeit crawling with blood and sweat, the imperial forces pushed further south into the heart of their enemy. In the west was the true stalemate, as most of the army forces were focused on the invasion of Alexanderhaven. Scythirus continued pummeling the invading Alexanderhaveniens, trying to herd them back to the border, but no ground was made on either end. It really depended on the aerial battle for the Persian skies. Because of the blockade, Scythirus would eventually win that, but not instantly. Still, the Scythirian air force remained relentless on that front as well. Most of the Alexanderhavenien raids on Scythirian infrastructure were intercepted and turned back, but a inevitable few bombings got through; no defense was perfect. |
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| Kasnyia | Feb 24 2012, 07:48 PM Post #77 |
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OOC- You don't decide what I do, Scy. Not retconning a thing. Simple as that. IC- Alexanderhaven began gaining the air in the West. The arrogant Scythirans always underestimated their enemy, while Alexanderhaven had always been careful to know where and how to strike. Scythirus would not have an easy time of the war. The home front pushed Scythirus back, not allowing Jihamed's barbarians to hold any ground for too long. The stalemate continued. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Feb 25 2012, 04:39 PM Post #78 |
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The aide interrupted the meeting to let the Emperor know what had happend. The Scythirian ambassador was outside, demanding an emergency audience. With a sigh turned back to the Alexandrian and Russian inspectors. "Take a few minutes to contact your governments and determine their positions. It appears that events have outpaced us." Sighing again, he gestured to the aide to let the Scythirian ambassador inside, as his guests went to update their situations. The ambassador entered the room and the usual formalities were exchanged, albeit in truncated form. "I have only the briefest briefing on the situation," the Emperor said, "so you will have to explain things to me. Within a few more minutes the inspectors from Alexanderhaven and Russia, who were working on behalf of Scythirus as much as on behalf of my own person, will return and present to me their governments' positions. I see no reason we should not be able to settle this dispute here." |
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| Comrade Queen | Feb 26 2012, 06:39 PM Post #79 |
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OOC: This isn't about what you do. This is about what Al Adib wants to do with his country, and how I want to interpret my expansion. IC: Ambassador Grazzan bowed his thanks to the Roman Emperor. "Your Majesty, for a couple years now, Scythirus has been plagued by bandits on its borders, and while events bubbled under the surface with Aghaba and Al Adib, they became a deeper concern," he said in opening. "Well, as an exercise before things would eventually turn hot with those two countries, my government authorized the conquest of the wild regions to bring peace and stability to them under the Scythirian flag. They are now, officially, Scythirian lands. Shortly afterward, your vassal state, Alexanderhaven, breached our new borders and has refused to withdraw. A state of war now exists between Scythirus and Alexanderhaven. The God-Emperor of Scythirus requests that you order their withdrawal and punish them for their hostile actions." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Scythirus would not be pushed back. Instead of heading back north where the Alexandehaveniens wanted the imperial forces to go, they routed west for a couple miles and then turned back towards the east to lay siege to the next city in their path that they were determined to seize. Meanwhile, more reinforcements for the campaign against the rogue country poured over the border to both strengthen the defenses of the Alexandehavenien cities already under occupation and to bolster the ranks of the invasion force marching further south. The Scythirians were cemented in their holdings and would not be going anywhere anytime soon. Neither country had total control over Persian skies yet, and until that point, the war could not truly be decisive. Scythirus knew this very well, and continued much of its focus in its attempts to dismantle the Alexanderhavenien air force. Seeing the few gains the rogue nation had in the west, Scythirus reacted quickly to regain its footing there. The forces defending the new western provinces depended on it. And so fighter aircraft began a brutal assault there. Whether the Sacred Holy Empire would defeat Alexanderhaven decisively with brute force alone or not didn't matter at this point. The naval blockade had remained vigilant and blocked all shipping it came across (at least until Aghaba responded). It was that blockade that would be Alexanderhaven's true downfall. Without imports and exports, the Alexanderhaveniens had no revenue; without revenue, they couldn't afford bombs and bullets; without bombs and bullets, they couldn't fight off the Scythirians. Edited by Comrade Queen, Feb 26 2012, 06:40 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Feb 26 2012, 10:48 PM Post #80 |
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OOC- And I refuse to retcon, so it matters not. NRE backed me on the issue, and I'll continue that way. You can either continue arguing with me or stop trying to control or dictate what I should or should not do. IC- Alexanderhaven was only pushed back briefly, but then succeeded in pushing Scythirus completely out of home territory, but could go no further. A stalemate had once again been established. The blockade was soon engaged by the Roman fleet stationed in Alexanderhaven, allowing supplies through. The Alexanderhaven forces achieved air superiority in the west and soon began greatly damaging Scythiran forces, allowing Alexanderhaven to push. -------- In Constantinople, the delegation from Alexanderhaven was quickly made aware of the situation and immediately went back before the Emperor, "Negotiation can be done, but only once Jihamed's barbarians are brought to heel and respect of the Empire's boundaries and areas of influence. I request Constantinople send its full might in assistance to its eternally loyal vassal." Edited by Kasnyia, Feb 26 2012, 11:04 PM.
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| Comrade Queen | Feb 26 2012, 11:15 PM Post #81 |
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OOC: No. Just no. If you want to try pushing back hard, you're going to have to make more effort with it than a two-line god-moding post. "Completely out of home territory?" Just like that? In one sentence? Bullshit. |
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| Kasnyia | Feb 26 2012, 11:25 PM Post #82 |
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OOC- Yeah? Well I stated several times I had managed to hold you back and create a stalemate (so that we could get to other parts of the RP), and I also stated several times that I don't have the time to get into war RPing right now but you keep pretending that this doesn't matter or that you are infinitely capable of pushing on my forces, so I have started to care as much as you do, which is to say not at all. So you can call bullshit all you want, the RP will just stop in its tracks. |
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| Comrade Queen | Feb 26 2012, 11:36 PM Post #83 |
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OOC: And I've acknowledged those stalemates. Nothing significant is happening in the western province concerning the ground battle, Scythirus' push into Alexanderhaven is a slow slog, the air battle hasn't changed much either. The one place where I've really had you by the balls is that naval blockade, and now even your reference to that in your recent post is a laughable god mode. If you engage my forces at the blockade, it immediately becomes dangerous for any shipping that tries to get past; can your merchants dodge flak? I let your first god mode about establishing a base on the Caspian coast after I had very blatantly stated that I blocked your path there slide, as I figured you might have misread. But this... this new post of yours is a travesty. |
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| Kasnyia | Feb 26 2012, 11:59 PM Post #84 |
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OOC- Its a travesty that you won't RP any other portion of this RP, instead you continue to RP the war despite me clearly saying several times we were in stalemate in order to move on from this aspect of the plot. I tried to get the others to join in, but you wouldn't answer them either in IC. So, since you won't take the hint, I have to act in a rash manner in order to get your attention. As to the establishment of the base being godmoding, I had established the base in the first post I made ON that base. You suddenly being able to surround me and "prevent" me was godmodding and as such I reacted to it in kind. So don't go on about how much you let me slide because I only did it since you did it first. I'll gladly retcon the godmoded post once you agree to stop war RPing and move on to the political and diplomatic aspects of the plot, accepting that the conflict is in stalemate and that this aspect of the plot will now serve as backdrop and context to everything else. Because as much as I have appreciated the war RPing and how we have been RPing it, the plot isn't going anywhere. |
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| Comrade Queen | Feb 27 2012, 12:22 AM Post #85 |
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OOC: Evidence that you have not read this thread at all. Take note of Ambassador Grazzan and the God-Emperor's communiques.
There is no justification for god moding. You want attention? Actually post something that isn't half-assed.
Bullshit. And double bullshit. When you trying to justify your actions, actually state the truth rather than outright lie. "Would" is not "did." "Would" is an intent, not an action.
Only because your two-line posts don't really give much to grab onto. |
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| Kasnyia | Feb 28 2012, 02:21 AM Post #86 |
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OOC- Yeah, your ambassador's posts basically shot down any attempt to do anything, so no that does not count as moving on to the other aspects of the RP. And I'm not posting epics for your sake when I've hinted that I want to move on and you won't listen. I have far more important things to do with my time. It's for the same reason I am fully justified to simply godmod when more subtle means don't work. You want to move on and want me to retcon, get to the other parts of the RP, simple. As for the post, the word "would" was used from a past tense perspective with the intent on then moving the plot of the original story with the next post (it was a bump, after all). I established the base. The other post also had the word "continue" in it, meaning the base had been established and I was completing it, refering And seeing as you never bothered to inform me in advance you were going to attack it (nevermind how your troops magically appeared to surround the base immediately, which I ignored), I saw no reason to see why it would go otherwise. So no, I'm not lying and you're not some innocent victim, so stop pretending to be. You can continue to bitch about this if you want or you can move on with the plot and acknowledge that the war has entered a stalemate rather than try to continue it. I assure you the moment you do I will retcon the offending post if you do. |
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| Comrade Queen | Feb 28 2012, 02:50 AM Post #87 |
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OOC: ... What is this I don't even....
Then do us all a favor and do them and take a fucking hike. This forum would be better off if you had remained banned anyhow.
"Would" does not mean what you think it means. "Would" is the past participle of "will." The word you're thinking of is "was." And your claim of your usage of "continue" isn't correct either, as "continued on to the coast" does not imply you've gotten there yet. Idiot. There's no language in your posts that even remotely suggests you've already established it, you god moding piece of shit.
"Magically?" Dude, they just freshly conquered the soil you were tromping through.
Yes you are.
I'm not doing anything for your pleasure. You god moded and you're an ass on top of it. You can go to hell. Edited by Comrade Queen, Feb 28 2012, 02:53 AM.
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| NRE | Feb 28 2012, 05:08 PM Post #88 |
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OOC: OK ok, until further notice I ask that for the sake of sanity and before this just gets bad, we hold off any military posts. Lets for now, focus on the negotiations in Constantinople and see where that gets us. Also, in the question of where or where not, Al-abid is, lets just leave that alone for now as well. Its not entirely necessary to be brought up at the moment and so unless it becomes imperative to make a decision on it in an OOC manner then it so shall be done but until then, lets just leave it alone. If this just turns into a OOC slug fest, then I'll lock this thread and we will enforce the already established decision on this relative matter as has been discussed to all involved at one time or another in PMs. IC: After being dismissed by the Emperor, Shuvalov quickly phoned the embassy in Constantinople to find out what had transpired. He was quickly briefed on the situation as well as read the memos sent to him directly from the Tsar. Russia it seemed, while prepared to help militarily, understood the logistical problems with trying to help its ally Alexanderhaven in this matter. It was the Tsar's deepest desires to solves this situation diplomatically, as it would be far less expensive (he hoped) that way. While the Ambassador was briefed at the Tsar's attempt to a ceasefire, it seemed as if such requests were breaking down. Now it seemed it was up to the Ambassador to do whatever he could to stop the hostilities. Ambassador Shuvalov understood the only way to get the two sides to stop fighting would be with Roman help. Without it, Russia would undoubtedly be dragged into a conflict which not only would prove difficult to get into logistically, but financially and humanly costly. Knowing this, the Ambassador felt the small room he was given while he contacted his embassy and walked back towards the Emperor's room. Edited by NRE, Feb 28 2012, 05:09 PM.
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 3 2012, 12:07 AM Post #89 |
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After hearing the Scythirian ambassador and the Alexandrian inspector speak, the emperor sighed quietly. For a moment, it seemed that it was time for him to respond, but the Russian delegate was returning just then, so he took a few more seconds to gather his thoughts. Constantine's mind was on another time. He had been a young men then, a recently crowned autocrat. The world was innocent then - the Dominion was strong but there was no war and many still thought that they might remain independent, himself among them. But he had not been wholly foolish, and he had even once warned the Caliphate of Paradise that the Dominion would not remain peaceful. The Ethiopians of Morracon had brokered a meeting between the Emperor and the Caliph's representatives. A conflict had arisen that threatened war between two of the Powers of the Old Asia. Alexanderhaven, then under a Ribbenzoph king, had nearly come to blows with the Caliphate over land in Arabia. But the young emperor had successfully navigated the treacherous straits of diplomacy. In this young crisis, the old emperor's mind was filled with memories of the old triumph of a young emperor. One day that emperor would sleep and his son would assume the purple, but that day had not come yet. He still bore crown and cross and could make the past live again. Nodding slowly, he began to speak, "I am greatly sorry, to all of you, that I could not address this situation before it came to violence, because violence is no victory for any of us. After all, it was precisely a threat to Scythirus that had lead to these inspections, and it was to combat this threat that we were all assembled here. It it sad, then, that this meeting, once a symbol of the great friendship between the Romans and the Persians, has become something of a lamentation. "I say that violence weakens us all, but I am not sure if you all believe me. But the reality is that our windswept lands are not the golden center of the world that they were in years past. In Africa, in Europe, in Asia, even in these strange new lands across the oceans, powers have risen. Rebuilty from the Dominion War, the look greedily across the globe. I have seen, through my agents in Europe and Africa, some of the most pernicious races of men, and they hunger for dominance. It is the same on other continents. This would be no time to weaken the Middle East. "The strength of our lands lies not merely in our individual strengths, we must remember, but in the strength of your unity. While our cooperation has not always been perfect, in the past, the Empire, Scythirus, and Paradise all stood together along with our clients. Any who poked the Middle East would face overwhelming retaliation and risk total annihilation. The fact that Scythirus and Alexanderhaven face each other on the battlefield today is a sign that those agreements have lapsed. That is to noone's benefit. "That said, I hope you will realize that it is most pressing that we rebuild the united front of the Middle East. I would suggest that Scythirus and Alexanderhaven agree to an immediate ceasefire, while our nations meet together, along with Paradise, with the purpose of restoring unity to the Middle East. We can insure for all time that no power on this earth can stand against us. All I ask is that the fighting be put aside while we accomplish that. Is that acceptable?" |
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| Kasnyia | Mar 3 2012, 07:11 PM Post #90 |
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"If they will adhere to an immediate ceasefire without precondition, the arms of Alexanderhaven would silence at once, my liege."
Edited by Kasnyia, Mar 3 2012, 07:12 PM.
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| Aghaba | Mar 8 2012, 10:24 PM Post #91 |
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Piotr el Shazli shouted urgently for his colleagues to find some sort of cover. The director of the Aghaban NGO Medical Aid Access Alliance found his past training in the Ground Forces to be critical at this moment. The thunderous shocks of ordinance were nearing their position, a clinic for women located in a small town within the contested territory these explosions were trying to pacify. Piotr quickly glanced around, making sure everyone was hiding under a desk or table - anything that may protect them from falling debris. Fear permeated the clinic as patients, mostly young women and NGO volunteers trembled, tears streaming down their cheeks. Anti-aircraft fire erupted outside as mobile platforms sprayed the skies with flak. There was a deafening sound only 30 meters away that forced Piotr onto the ground. Then another, closer, seconds later. He couldn't hear anything but his own panicked breathing and the seemingly distant thumping of the AA. As he made a desperate attempt to crawl to the nearest cover, the nearest wall was shattered, sending millions of concrete shards and fire throughout the large room. The roof soon followed, and tonnes of debris fell upon the occupants - ensuring the total evisceration of any life. |
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| Comrade Queen | Mar 15 2012, 03:39 PM Post #92 |
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Ignoring the Alexanderhavenien delegate, Ambassador Grazzan bowed his head respectfully to the Roman Emperor. "Truly you are a wise ruler, Your Majesty," he said. "I understand now fully why your empire has always held my God-Emperor's respect. A ceasefire would be a wise course toward renewing the strength of this region. However, my God-Emperor has been greatly angered by your vassal's actions and will likely need assurances that it will follow through on its end." |
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 15 2012, 09:36 PM Post #93 |
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"You have my word that Alexanderhaven will honor the ceasefire." Turning to the Alexandrian representative, he nodded his head. After he had gone off to inform his government of the ceasefire, the emperor turned back to the Scythirian ambassador: "He is going to inform his government of the ceasefire. Thank you for your cooperation. I believe that both Romans and Scythirians will only prosper from this arrangement. I am glad you came here before things passed the point where we might not have been able to speak. If you will inform your government of the ceasefire, we can start making arrangements for the summit. I will send an invivitation to the Arabs." |
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| Comrade Queen | Mar 18 2012, 05:42 PM Post #94 |
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Before departing, the Scythirian Ambassador thanked the Roman Emperor for his cooperation. Back at the embassy, he informed the God-Emperor that a ceasefire had been agreed to and that Constantinople would ensure that Alexanderhaven would keep its end. During the discussion, the God-Emperor brought to light an agreement he had made with Aghaban politicians. The Ambassador was both surprised and impressed with his sovereign's maneuvering. Perhaps this time in Scythirus' history, no war would be necessary at all. Back in Scythirus' new western provinces and the occupation in neighboring Alexanderhaven, Scythirus' forces were told about the ceasefire and ordered to stand down. It was fully expected that the Alexanderhaveniens would do so in kind as per the Roman Emperor's orders. |
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| Kasnyia | Mar 18 2012, 06:30 PM Post #95 |
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All forces of Alexanderhaven ceased operations upon hearing the order. |
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| Kasnyia | Apr 3 2012, 04:07 PM Post #96 |
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OOC- *cough* |
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| Rhadamanthus | Apr 3 2012, 06:13 PM Post #97 |
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OOC: Sorry, I'll start a new thread for the new summit soon. |
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