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Adulthood; When the hell did that happen?
Topic Started: Apr 9 2011, 06:12 PM (6,392 Views)
Tristan da Cunha
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Excellent post, E.

Also I have never understood why living with the parents is considered so unappealing. They're not getting any younger, and it's good to spend more time around them and value the time you have around them. Unless, of course, they hate you and you hate them, which is also too cliche! Indeed this isn't the year 1850 when our country had a gross surfeit of land and in hard times you can just "Go West, young man" and make a fortune slaughtering Indian tribes and taking their land to become a successful mega farmer. We're in the terminal stages of (at least) this stage of industrial civilization and the central survival tactics are frugality and renewing your stake in your community-- which besides is also the decent thing to do.
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flumes
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:lol:

Fake ID's...

:lol:

(I don't condone the use of fake ID's to purchase any alcoholic beverages underage.) :smoking:
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Telo: I can totally see this skinny hobbit-sized figure moving through a lobby and parking lot unnoticed - stealth, ftw! Also, if I had a phony id what I was 16 I totally would have been buying swords and stuff, except I don't think it was illegal back in my day.

Like E said - stay out of debt. Once you are in that trap it is very hard to get out - I speak from experience here.
Edited by New Harumf, Jul 31 2011, 09:46 AM.
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flumes
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If there is one piece of advice my parents have pushed on me, it is to stay out of debt. Being the Finance major that I am, I understand why. STAY OUT OF DEBT. I will only use debt as an investment tool.
Edited by flumes, Jul 31 2011, 09:50 AM.
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Aelius
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Believe me, I have every intention of staying out of debt. I managed to get through college with only $8,000 in loan debt. If I can ever line up a real job, I should be able to take care of that pretty quickly.

I don't mind living near my family, I'm just ready to not live with them for a while. It also has to do with the fact that I'm young and wanting to get out and see the world. I want to have the opportunity to see the world and become a man of the world. I wouldn't abandon my family, but I don't feel that close to them overall, and I don't feel any real connection to any one place. Oklahoma hasn't ever really felt like home to me. I want to go somewhere and try my own luck out.
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Ulgania
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I think I've done pretty good for myself, sans the $40k+ college debt. Which is pretty good, considering 4 years costs $120k altogether. I worked my ass of for scholarships and higher grades for better grants and scholarships.

My monthly bills are just a couple student loans ($300) and a phone bill ($30). The only thing I'd like to cut down on is my gas bill. Have a 40 mile daily commute is killing me, but I sorta need to bare with it until I can save enough to move. Likely, to New Hampshire. It's an easier trek from Vermont to NH than OK, I imagine. heh.
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Ulgania
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Also, as far as a tea business goes, here's what one might see on all the stuff my online shop sells. :D
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Ulgania
Jul 31 2011, 02:14 PM
Posted Image

Also, as far as a tea business goes, here's what one might see on all the stuff my online shop sells. :D
We get to see a long-haired guy with glasses on everything you will sell?? :huh:
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Ulgania
Jul 30 2011, 02:59 PM
I have two jobs and my future tea shop is a much bigger reality than it was even a few months ago.
Have you started working up a formal business plan yet?
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Ulgania
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Al Araam
Jul 31 2011, 04:33 PM
Ulgania
Jul 30 2011, 02:59 PM
I have two jobs and my future tea shop is a much bigger reality than it was even a few months ago.
Have you started working up a formal business plan yet?
I'm waiting for a credit score that's higher than 675 and a few thousand dollars in savings before I start a business plan. I also want at least another few years of retail experience. And a few years to knock down student loans. Basically, 5 years from now I'll be working on a brick and mortar. For now I'm going to stick to online retail, and just work through Etsy/ebay/etc... and my own general knowledge of advertising and social media to get my name out.

tl;dr, no
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East Anarx
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Will the Loose Leaf be accepting silver or any alternative currencies?
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Ulgania
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Online, no. IRL, sure, but at an inflated rate so it can be transferred to normal currency.

I mean, I won't turn it away. I can respect a man who carries silver.
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Fair enough.

I only accept FRNs at inflated rates because I have to exchange them into real money.

Regarding online sales, not even bitcoin?

I'm looking forward to promoting your tea shop to the growing network of liberty activists of which I am a part. They're always down for supporting local businesses and even more so if they accept alternative currencies.

Btw, what part of NH are you thinking of moving to?
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Ulgania
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The bitcoin market is bloody volatile. That one guy on the exchange site who held the bulk of the coins had his account compromised, all his BCs were sold, and it crashed the market. The site admins basically played god and rolled back the market by 48 hours. Plus I don't support bitcoins because of the electricity investment that goes into them.

Also I'm hoping to get to the Dover/Portsmoth/Seacoast area. Thar be jobs, cheap rent, and old friends in that area.
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Yeah, I haven't done anything with bitcoins besides buying one for 5 bucks and sitting on it. I like the idea of peer-to-peer digital currencies though and I expect future competitors to bitcoin to further revolutionize the entire concept of money. Bitcoin is only the beginning. That said, if someone wanted to buy some glass from me in bitcoins, I wouldn't turn them down.

Cool. That's a nice area, but between that and the great north woods it's probably the part of NH I've spent the least time in. Let me know if you need any help moving. ^^
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Tristan da Cunha
Jul 31 2011, 07:09 AM
Excellent post, E.

Also I have never understood why living with the parents is considered so unappealing. They're not getting any younger, and it's good to spend more time around them and value the time you have around them. Unless, of course, they hate you and you hate them, which is also too cliche!
It's worked for me all this time and has allowed me to stay out of debt. Plus with my dad being legally blind my mom could use the extra help around the house. That said I don't expect to live with them forever and really there won't be necessity to do so when they choose to move to a smaller home for their twilight years. That said I don't foresee myself or my siblings ever being too far from them and wouldn't oppose the idea of being neighbors.

I guess the only downside is that, a least my dad, can treat me as if I'm still a child and not as an adult but it's not bad and I know he only means to see me succeed and not fail. Also, if I lived alone it would be easier for me to lose weight or so I feel.
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Aug 1 2011, 06:56 PM
Tristan da Cunha
Jul 31 2011, 07:09 AM
Excellent post, E.

Also I have never understood why living with the parents is considered so unappealing. They're not getting any younger, and it's good to spend more time around them and value the time you have around them. Unless, of course, they hate you and you hate them, which is also too cliche!
It's worked for me all this time and has allowed me to stay out of debt. Plus with my dad being legally blind my mom could use the extra help around the house. That said I don't expect to live with them forever and really there won't be necessity to do so when they choose to move to a smaller home for their twilight years. That said I don't foresee myself or my siblings ever being too far from them and wouldn't oppose the idea of being neighbors.

I guess the only downside is that, a least my dad, can treat me as if I'm still a child and not as an adult but it's not bad and I know he only means to see me succeed and not fail. Also, if I lived alone it would be easier for me to lose weight or so I feel.
With you living at home it will be difficult to loose weight. One thing you could do is tell your mom to no longer set a place at the dinner table, and no longer include you in her meal plans, and prepare and eat your own food - however I do know how tempting those leftovers in the fridge can be, so you might just have to wait until you are on your own. Sounds like you are in a good situation right now NRE. How is the job search going, any bites??
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Aug 2 2011, 08:39 AM
With you living at home it will be difficult to loose weight.
My experience has been a little different. I moved back home after finishing law school as the job market has been tough (aren't they all these days?). For a while, my mother was preparing only healthy food and as a result, I lost about fifteen pounds. However, lately, I've been more up to my own devices with regard to eating, and assigning bacon it's own room in the food pyramid does not do me any favors.
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Ulgania
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Go out and buy two 20 pound weights. Or 40-however-many kilos that would be if that's your choice measurement. That pushed me from being a chubby teen to a... not chubby teen. You probably watch TV/stuff on your computer, so stick them under/near your chair.

It's also a good habit to pick up in the morning imo
Edited by Ulgania, Aug 2 2011, 05:33 PM.
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Rhadamanthus
Aug 2 2011, 04:05 PM
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Aug 2 2011, 08:39 AM
With you living at home it will be difficult to loose weight.
My experience has been a little different. I moved back home after finishing law school as the job market has been tough (aren't they all these days?). For a while, my mother was preparing only healthy food and as a result, I lost about fifteen pounds. However, lately, I've been more up to my own devices with regard to eating, and assigning bacon it's own room in the food pyramid does not do me any favors.
Bacon is indeed a food group unto its self, and I treat myself with it as often as I can.

As to living at home, my dear RD: NRE's mother is a Southerner, and no self-respecting Southern women would serve her family anything less than belly-busting dinners (suppers, really) - just watch Paula Dean once, and you will know what I mean.
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Aelius
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Living with parents can indeed be taxing on the sanity. Aside from a feeling of lacking independence, the fact that I'm still viewed as an inferior by my father is becoming rather intolerable. Last night, I loaded the few dishes in the dishwasher we used yesterday, but we had plates and stuff and we were almost out of dishwasher soap, so I figured that I would wait to run it until today when it was full. He works nights, but he comes home this morning and throws a bitchfit, says that he's not cooking and just has such a attitude about it... it pisses me off. He still treats me like a child, and maybe I don't have a full time job yet, but it feels like he expects me to do everything around the house.

That's one of the main reasons I want a real job so badly, so I can get my independence, get my own place and make him do his own fucking dishes. What really bothers me, though, is that it seems like nobody respects me, anywhere. I have a crappy, part-time, low-paying retail job, no friends left here, nobody respects me and everything that used to be fun to me no longer has any effect. I need a way out, I need a real job, and at this point, I want it to be out of Oklahoma, and I want to leave ASAP. I was thinking I'd stick around to help the old man finish out the lease on this place, but if I get the chance to get out, I'm gone. To hell with this place and to hell with him.

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Lans, he is just being a father, and is probably as worried about you as you are; no hate, please.

Have you sent out any feelers out-of-state? Have you looked at any of the websites (which I know can be worthless, but that's how I found my current gig) like Monster or Careerfinder? Are there any specialty job-search sites for writers? Even craigslist, for goodness sake. There has to be something, even in this economy, or look for some management position, even if it is in retail sales (I mentioned Enterprise was hiring all over the country). You are going to have to be willing to travel for interviews, but all initial interviews should be able to be done over the phone so only the serious employers would want a face-to-face.
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I guess the attitude he had about it just rubbed me the wrong way. I know he cares, but he does tend to act like a bit of a dick at times. I want to keep in contact with him, but I think I'd do better in my own place. People get on each other's nerves if they live together for a while. If nothing else, it'd be nice to live someplace where I can leave the thermostat where I want and not have my house and all my stuff smell like cigarette smoke. Not really having many friends left in Norman and being bored a lot seems to be compounding the stress.

As far as jobs go, I've looked at Monster, Media Bistro, OU's own job listings... I've even been looking at temp agencies, like Flumes suggested. I've got a couple of possibilities to at least get out of retail, I've got an interview with Express (temp agency) Monday morning, and going to AT&T's call center on Tuesday to take "assessments". May not be a permanent solution in either case, but just getting more money and a 40-hour work week might help things a lot, especially after that ER bill. :dry:
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Don't give up on freelance writing, as my friend John Fayhee (now retired and living in a nice home in Silver City, NM) made a career out of it. Send him an invite as a friend (from my site) and tell him you know me, and pick his mind.
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Aug 3 2011, 02:15 PM
I guess the attitude he had about it just rubbed me the wrong way. I know he cares, but he does tend to act like a bit of a dick at times. I want to keep in contact with him, but I think I'd do better in my own place. People get on each other's nerves if they live together for a while. If nothing else, it'd be nice to live someplace where I can leave the thermostat where I want and not have my house and all my stuff smell like cigarette smoke. Not really having many friends left in Norman and being bored a lot seems to be compounding the stress.

As far as jobs go, I've looked at Monster, Media Bistro, OU's own job listings... I've even been looking at temp agencies, like Flumes suggested. I've got a couple of possibilities to at least get out of retail, I've got an interview with Express (temp agency) Monday morning, and going to AT&T's call center on Tuesday to take "assessments". May not be a permanent solution in either case, but just getting more money and a 40-hour work week might help things a lot, especially after that ER bill. :dry:
The good thing about temping at a big company is that there is always the chance to move up (get hired full-time) if you do a good job. Definitely better then retail..
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