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Adulthood; When the hell did that happen?
Topic Started: Apr 9 2011, 06:12 PM (6,393 Views)
flumes
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I've taken some job through the temp company Kelly Services. Probably not amazing pay, but it's better then nothing, and if you do a good job the company will often times look to pull you on full time. I got offered a full-time job at the manufacturing place I worked... Union job and everything. :lol: I passed and went back to school at the end of summer. But I also worked for a big-time corp through them, and I'm hopeful it could lead to a job after graduation.
Edited by flumes, Jun 10 2011, 04:48 PM.
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Aelius
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Jun 10 2011, 03:06 PM
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May 31 2011, 01:44 PM
Thought I'd throw this out again, but does anybody have any leads that would be worth applying to? The job search has kinda stalled out at the moment.
Forgive the ignorance but what kind of job are you looking for, ideally and/or out of desperation? (ok that might not sound as I intended :lol: )
Ideally, some kind of writing job, but at this point, anything that is better paying/more dignifying than retail. I've had just about enough of Wal-Mart.

Flumes, I may try something along the lines of a temp agency if nothing else comes up.
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The temp agency jobs get a worse stigma then they deserve, I'm glad I went that route the past couple summers.
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Jun 10 2011, 08:55 PM
Interesting article. It definitely reinforces the idea that if the complicated chain of processes that keeps industrialized society from collapsing breaks down, the vast majority of us would be incredibly screwed.

Also, I thought it was interesting that they mentioned oil prices of $15 dollars a gallon due to hyperinflation. That's actually about in line with what the "real price" of gasoline is right now. It's just not the price you see at the pump.
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Jun 10 2011, 03:06 PM
Lansdallius
May 31 2011, 01:44 PM
Thought I'd throw this out again, but does anybody have any leads that would be worth applying to? The job search has kinda stalled out at the moment.
Forgive the ignorance but what kind of job are you looking for, ideally and/or out of desperation? (ok that might not sound as I intended :lol: )
What are you offering NRE???
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Jun 10 2011, 10:11 PM
Esternarx
Jun 10 2011, 08:55 PM
Interesting article. It definitely reinforces the idea that if the complicated chain of processes that keeps industrialized society from collapsing breaks down, the vast majority of us would be incredibly screwed.

Also, I thought it was interesting that they mentioned oil prices of $15 dollars a gallon due to hyperinflation. That's actually about in line with what the "real price" of gasoline is right now. It's just not the price you see at the pump.
The idea that a systemic collapse of industrial civilization will occur, with only the well-imformed and well-prepared to be Raptured up into survivalist heaven, is a kind of Rapture scenario for secularists. The opposite of that scenario, that scientific innovations will be the salvation of mankind capable of staving off ultimate collapse, is another form of faith-based prophecy. That reasonable discourse is dominated by Rapture-like scenarios and quasi-religious prophecies without anyone batting an eye says something about our century. The 21st century is indeed shaping up to be one of the most exciting in recent memory! The only way to know who will prove correct is to meet again in the future when events have revealed themselves- that is, if Jesus and/or Muhammad do not first return to earth to usher in the End Times and do single and/or double combat with Shaitan and/or Antichrist!
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Tristan da Cunha
Jun 11 2011, 01:37 PM
Al Araam
Jun 10 2011, 10:11 PM
Esternarx
Jun 10 2011, 08:55 PM
Interesting article. It definitely reinforces the idea that if the complicated chain of processes that keeps industrialized society from collapsing breaks down, the vast majority of us would be incredibly screwed.

Also, I thought it was interesting that they mentioned oil prices of $15 dollars a gallon due to hyperinflation. That's actually about in line with what the "real price" of gasoline is right now. It's just not the price you see at the pump.
The idea that a systemic collapse of industrial civilization will occur, with only the well-imformed and well-prepared to be Raptured up into survivalist heaven, is a kind of Rapture scenario for secularists. The opposite of that scenario, that scientific innovations will be the salvation of mankind capable of staving off ultimate collapse, is another form of faith-based prophecy. That reasonable discourse is dominated by Rapture-like scenarios and quasi-religious prophecies without anyone batting an eye says something about our century. The 21st century is indeed shaping up to be one of the most exciting in recent memory! The only way to know who will prove correct is to meet again in the future when events have revealed themselves- that is, if Jesus and/or Muhammad do not first return to earth to usher in the End Times and do single and/or double combat with Shaitan and/or Antichrist!
There is no survivalist heaven at the bottom of the fall, just varying degrees of hellish reality, the inevitable result of Keynesian economics and rampant imperialism. Technological innovation will soften the landing in some ways and make it worse in others. Historically, economic collapses are fairly regular and well-documented, at least compared to religious apocalypses.

Perhaps the American Empire won't collapse in the next few years, or if it does perhaps most of the infrastructure you rely on will remain intact, but being prepared is still not a bad idea.

If you've got an off-the-grid passive solar home, a few photo-voltaic panels, a greenhouse or at least a garden, maybe some chickens, goats, rabbits, a well or rain-catcher, and a useful skill or trade, then it doesn't really matter so much whether or not a collapse happens, because you're not so reliant on a centralized hierarchical system teetering on the edge of collapse in the first place.

But what do I know? Maybe you should keep all of your savings in banks, federal reserve notes, and government bonds. While you're at it, get a credit card and a college loan and a mortgage. Good luck.
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Well, I believe blind faith that everything will be alright and we can continue doing whatever we want is as foolish as blind faith that industrialized civilization is inexorably bound to fall apart no matter what we do. There is a chance of both, as there always is. My recent studies of climate-related problems provide an interesting example. There are some relatively respected individuals which have pointed to the possibly catastrophic effects of climate change causing the melting of glaciers which feed some of the worlds major river systems, and the possible effect on food production. It's very interesting stuff. I tend to think the assessment is overblown, but I suppose we'll know in the next couple of decades.

I think that it should be fairly obvious that human consumption of resources at this level is not sustainable indefinitely. Right now, a tiny percent of the world's population is using a large percentage of the world's resources, and industrialization and modernization are increasingly bringing nations that were impoverished and/or primitive into line with those at the top of the global social order. That is exactly why I would have to agree that the 21st century will be an incredibly exciting time to be alive. One way or another things are going to change, and any change will be on a scale that effects most everyone.
Edited by Al Araam, Jun 11 2011, 11:48 PM.
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Jun 11 2011, 09:25 PM
There is no survivalist heaven at the bottom of the fall, just varying degrees of hellish reality, the inevitable result of Keynesian economics and rampant imperialism. Technological innovation will soften the landing in some ways and make it worse in others. Historically, economic collapses are fairly regular and well-documented, at least compared to religious apocalypses.

Perhaps the American Empire won't collapse in the next few years, or if it does perhaps most of the infrastructure you rely on will remain intact, but being prepared is still not a bad idea.

If you've got an off-the-grid passive solar home, a few photo-voltaic panels, a greenhouse or at least a garden, maybe some chickens, goats, rabbits, a well or rain-catcher, and a useful skill or trade, then it doesn't really matter so much whether or not a collapse happens, because you're not so reliant on a centralized hierarchical system teetering on the edge of collapse in the first place.

But what do I know? Maybe you should keep all of your savings in banks, federal reserve notes, and government bonds. While you're at it, get a credit card and a college loan and a mortgage. Good luck.
I would definitely champion keeping eggs in many baskets and fingers in many pies, so to speak.

Al Araam
 
Well, I believe blind faith that everything will be alright and we can continue doing whatever we want is as foolish as blind faith that industrialized civilization is inexorably bound to fall apart no matter what we do. There is a chance of both, as there always is. My recent studies of climate-related problems provide an interesting example. There are some relatively respected individuals which have pointed to the possibly catastrophic effects of climate change causing the melting of glaciers which feed some of the worlds major river systems, and the possible effect on food production. It's very interesting stuff. I tend to think the assessment is overblown, but I suppose we'll know in the next couple of decades.

I think that it should be fairly obvious that human consumption of resources at this level is not sustainable indefinitely. Right now, a tiny percent of the world's population is using a large percentage of the world's resources, and industrialization and modernization are increasingly bringing nations that were impoverished and/or primitive into line with those at the top of the global social order. That is exactly why I would have to agree that the 21st century will be an incredibly exciting time to be alive. One way or another things are going to change, and any change will be on a scale that effects most everyone.


This is indeed an exciting era. People will often make the point that it's no good to bring children into this world these days, facing such a dismal future. I'm of the opinion there is no better time to be alive to be able to witness some of the most drastic frameshifts in human history whatever they prove to be. But maybe I'm just sick like that and some sort of adrenaline junkie. That said, I only welcome shortage and crisis (and all their attendant suffering) only as far as they manifest in price mechanisms to draw newfound investments and R&D in new technologies to expand supply and not just conserve demand. I'm not up to date on all the arcana of modern engineering and technology so in that respect I can only leave it to the autistic materials engineers of the world. (If we are still alive and internetting in 50 years then it may very well only be because some of the autistic and Aspergers-afflicted scientists have managed to hyperfocus on their narrow domains of expertise to come up with some handfuls of technological solutions to looming humanitarian crises they may be apathetic about, ironically.)
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 12 2011, 04:10 PM.
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Think of the following:

What happened from 1900 to 1990 - we went from horse and carriage to autos, airplanes, travels to the moon, exploration of Mars and the outer giants, computers, etc. That was a hundreds-fold advancement of knowledge and technology over the previous 200 years; it is predicted that the next 100 years will bring a thousands-fold advancement. The world by the end of this century will not be recognizable to us, unless, of course, we let religious extremists control our future. This should be an exciting time to live.

The bad news, as I see it, is that speculative literature, which usually forsees the future, has slowed down and been replaced by fantasy and whimsey. This worries me.
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I've tried the temp agency like Flumes suggested, haven't heard back from them yet. All my leads seem to have fizzled out, anyone have any new ones worth trying? I'd really appreciate some help, I don't know where else to apply at this point and haven't gotten so much as a callback in over a month. I'm willing to go anywhere and try anything that I'd be allowed to try, as long as it's something appropriate for a college grad.
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Shit...

I'm going to be a legal adult in 9 days.
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Oh my God!! Little Quaon is all grown up! I sincerely hope this little NSWR club has contributed to your erudition....if not your procrastination. It certainly has for me.
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Quaon will no longer be jail bait!! Get the cougers warmed up :lol:
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Both asking you guys for your opinion on this and trying to get new blog followers. If you've got a Tumblr, you should follow me.

Planning for the future.
Edited by Aelius, Jul 30 2011, 11:20 AM.
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I have two jobs and my future tea shop is a much bigger reality than it was even a few months ago. Also apartment hunting.

Also I'd post my tumblr but it's pretty self-obsessive.
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Jul 30 2011, 02:59 PM
I have two jobs and my future tea shop is a much bigger reality than it was even a few months ago. Also apartment hunting.

Also I'd post my tumblr but it's pretty self-obsessive.
That's fantastic! I would really like to stop by your tea shop in the future.
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I had daydreams of owning a coffe shop/internet cafe in the same vein as Starbucks, sort of, at once point or another.

Do I get to post adulthood experiences if I only did so illegaly? As in, obtaining an 18+ identifying wristband using my friend's ID to enter 18+ events at Otakon and then purchasing 3 swords and a handforged spear without a picture ID? Then later sneaking it past the security guards at the convention and 2 blocks down the streets of Baltimore's Inner Harbor to put them in my car?

Picture a 5'5" black robed and winged teenager smuggling weapons, among which is a 6'5" high carbon spear, through a very crowded lobby, stairwell,, and between parked cars and you have me.

Ai, if I stop suddenly on the drive home, that spear is going through my windshield...
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Jul 30 2011, 05:45 PM
I had daydreams of owning a coffe shop/internet cafe in the same vein as Starbucks, sort of, at once point or another.

Do I get to post adulthood experiences if I only did so illegaly? As in, obtaining an 18+ identifying wristband using my friend's ID to enter 18+ events at Otakon and then purchasing 3 swords and a handforged spear without a picture ID? Then later sneaking it past the security guards at the convention and 2 blocks down the streets of Baltimore's Inner Harbor to put them in my car?

Picture a 5'5" black robed and winged teenager smuggling weapons, among which is a 6'5" high carbon spear, through a very crowded lobby, stairwell,, and between parked cars and you have me.

Ai, if I stop suddenly on the drive home, that spear is going through my windshield...
Christ, man.

When you have a fake I.D. you don't buy swords with it. :rolleyes: :lol:
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Jul 30 2011, 07:05 PM
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Jul 30 2011, 05:45 PM
I had daydreams of owning a coffe shop/internet cafe in the same vein as Starbucks, sort of, at once point or another.

Do I get to post adulthood experiences if I only did so illegaly? As in, obtaining an 18+ identifying wristband using my friend's ID to enter 18+ events at Otakon and then purchasing 3 swords and a handforged spear without a picture ID? Then later sneaking it past the security guards at the convention and 2 blocks down the streets of Baltimore's Inner Harbor to put them in my car?

Picture a 5'5" black robed and winged teenager smuggling weapons, among which is a 6'5" high carbon spear, through a very crowded lobby, stairwell,, and between parked cars and you have me.

Ai, if I stop suddenly on the drive home, that spear is going through my windshield...
Christ, man.

When you have a fake I.D. you don't buy swords with it. :rolleyes: :lol:
Buying swords would have probably been my top priority if I had ever wanted a fake ID.

Actually, come to think of it, I remember getting a bit of a thrill when we bought swords in Montreal and were driving back across the border. They searched my car, found some fruit, and lectured us about carrying non-native species across the border, kept it, and we carried on.

I lol'd a little.
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You need an ID to buy swords?
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Under 18 or under 16, liability shit, up to the vendor.
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Jul 30 2011, 05:45 PM

Do I get to post adulthood experiences if I only did so illegaly?
No, in fact, I would suggest you don't post any illegal experiences on this forum, and that you delete any that you have posted.
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Jul 30 2011, 11:20 AM
Both asking you guys for your opinion on this and trying to get new blog followers. If you've got a Tumblr, you should follow me.

Planning for the future.
Regarding your post on your blog... Consider moving to New Hampshire, it's got one of the lowest unemployment rates in the empire, so you're a bit more likely to be able to find a job. Also, it'll be a nice change of scenery from the plains of Oklahoma.

Don't know about finding a place to stay, though. What are your criteria? I assume you're on a pretty limited budget. I would recommend figuring out what you can do without, (this of course means something different to everyone, but once you start minimizing you'd be surprised how little it actually costs to keep you alive and happy,) and saving up, (in real wealth, not FRNs.) It may not sound all that appealing, but if you live out of your car then you don't need to pay rent on an apartment, for example. Invest in a good tent and sleeping bag. If you're not paying rent, it's surprisingly easy to save up. Winter is something you'll have to worry about, and if you can afford it then renting a place with heat might be a good idea, but during the warmer months you might consider camping. In any case, living on your own will teach you valuable life lessons.

Alternatively, staying with your parents may not be such a terrible thing either. It's probably cheap and reasonably comfortable. As long as you're saving up instead of just blowing money on video games then living with your family may not be a bad option. It's harder to minimize and simplify if you stay, though. It will take a lot more discipline to break old habits.

I recommend staying the fuck away from debt, at all costs.

Remember, it's your life, and you only get one so have some fun with it.
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