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| Adulthood; When the hell did that happen? | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 9 2011, 06:12 PM (6,386 Views) | |
| flumes | Dec 2 2011, 02:26 PM Post #226 |
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:lol: I'm not sure why I find this funny, but I've been laughing for a good couple minutes. |
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| East Anarx | Dec 9 2011, 09:49 AM Post #227 |
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Slightly more advanced than finger-painting. We're going through the history of art, (more or less,) and implementing something from each period, (more or less.) Right now we're making "prehistoric tribal" masks, fire-, earth-, water-, and air-themed, attempting to integrate influences from Japanese, Native American, Australian Aboriginal, and Norse culture respectively, (though one or more of those cultures might be replaced by Greek or African... still undecided.) For the most part, I just let the kids do what comes naturally to them, provide a minimal amount of guidance, and just converse with them about the philosophy of art as we work together on our respective pieces. It's a fun way to earn a few bucks, and I usually end up learning as much from them as they end up learning from me. In other news, I'm a freegan. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Dec 9 2011, 11:21 AM Post #228 |
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That art class sounds great. |
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| New Harumf | Dec 9 2011, 01:13 PM Post #229 |
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Isn't that the same as being a dumpster diver??? |
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| Porcu | Dec 9 2011, 01:48 PM Post #230 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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Urbandictionary.com: Freegan - Somebody who abstains from contributing to the economy and salvages society's wasted food and resources rather than purchase more themselves. |
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| East Anarx | Dec 9 2011, 03:22 PM Post #231 |
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I don't quite fit the urban dictionary definition and would specify that while my diet is freegan, (in that (almost) all the food I eat comes from dumpsters,) and lots, (but not all,) of the resources I use for various projects is stuff somebody else considered junk, I do contribute somewhat to the economy at large. However, I only attempt to abstain from contributing to the above-ground economy, whereas I am an active participant in the underground economy. Rhad, I'm glad you think so. |
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| Sedulius | Dec 10 2011, 04:35 AM Post #232 |
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I hate this thread. I almost never have anything relevant to say on it. I think it's because I don't really understand the concept. You're not an adult when you turn 18 0r 21 or whatever, you're just different under the law. Your brain doesn't fully mature until, what, 25? I honestly don't know when I became an adult. I'm always growing older, learning more, getting wiser with experience. Yet I see people far older than me that are fools, and people younger than me that are wise. And I myself have been scrambling to re-attain wisdom that I once had when I was far younger. I might be wiser in many more things now than I was then, but in all honesty my overall outlook on the world was wiser and better when I was in 10th grade. Of course, that was just before I was mentally scarred... I know I can fully re-attain exactly who I was, but I've gotten pretty damn close, and as long I feel like me again, I think I'll be happy. I must say that I was the equivalent of an adult back in that time, and when stability was lost, I made mistakes, learned from those mistakes, and formed different outlooks on things. Less enlightened and more realist. And then at some point I realized how wrong I was. I don't know when I was or was not an adult in the past several years. It just kind of happened. And I feel like year after year like I am an adult now, and not last year. But I know at the same time that I am wrong about that, that I have been an adult for a long time, I've just made some foolish mistakes. And the fact of the matter is, adults are more than capable of mistakes. Even now, when it is extremely difficult to get my work done, when I am weaker than I used to be, I realize I was more of an adult way back then, which is rather ironic considering few considered me as such then. Though the wiser did see it. I remember my JROTC instructor insulting the other students, calling them 10 or 12 year olds. I asked him what I was. He said I was 40. An older black man who has served in the Army for years and years doesn't simply jest about such things. Obviously he didn't think of me as having the experience of someone of 40, but he recognized the sound logic and the unrelenting determination that was in me then. Both qualities I find myself with much less of now. They're still there, they're just diminished. Regrowing though. I realize that I am an adult now and have been for quite some time. I've had to survive on my own, though I have had help. I have not been completely on my own. But I have essentially been on my own. I think the real question that this thread poses needs to be answered. What is the measure of man? Or woman? Some say age 18, and that's it, you're an adult. Some say sex, you're an adult. Some actually say you need to kill a man before you are a man. Some think men never cry, should not show emotion. Some think women should not cuss. There's all kinds of these things. They're all wrong, but they are throwing the darts at the right board. What really makes an adult? I say this. A person who can do what it take to survive on their own without unnecessary harm to others. A person who understands what is or is not necessary. A person who can consistently produce sound logic. A person who can admit when they are wrong, when they have made mistakes. A person who has an open mind to knowledge and ideas. A person who can accept other people for who they are. A person who is patient. A person who is brave. A person who is good. A person that knows what good truly is. A person that knows how to maintain a calm demeanor, but also knows when to get angry about injustice. A person that does not think about themselves, but rather about others. A person who wishes to better the world. Ha, and I wrote all of this without thinking about the phrase "What man is a man who does not make the world better?" Only just came to me after writing that last line. I am not saying everyone needs to live by some extreme code of honor. I am saying that an adult should be able to discern between right and wrong, and know to do right, either without having to think about it, or because they have to think about it, they choose to do right. Real strength is in doing right even when you don't want to, even when it doesn't benefit you. Someone who is truly an adult should understand what I mean by "strength". I certainly don't mean muscles. And in reading this, I think it is understandable why I struggle with thinking of myself as an adult, for I know that much of the time I am not logical, that I am impatient, that I choose to do wrong. We all have flaws. So I suppose really, really the simplest definition of adulthood should be: the ability to recognize your flaws and mistakes, and to take action to correct them, and to continue to take action until they are corrected. For to hold people to an impossible standard would mean no one is an adult. Adulthood is proven in showing the ability to recognize and resolve one's own flaws. |
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| Al Araam | Dec 10 2011, 05:27 AM Post #233 |
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Although my definitions tend to be rather simplistic, I do believe the difference between an adult and a child is the ability to put loyalty before self-gratification. It sounds much easier than it is, I promise. Regardless, even using a definition that simple, quite a lot of humans would never truly become "adults".
Edited by Al Araam, Dec 10 2011, 05:28 AM.
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| New Harumf | Dec 10 2011, 11:41 AM Post #234 |
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A person who can do what it take to survive on their own without unnecessary harm to others. OK, I've been doing that, mostly, for a while. A person who understands what is or is not necessary. Um, uh, OK, I fall down here - a lot. A person who can consistently produce sound logic. Nope! Pretty much screw up this. A person who can admit when they are wrong, when they have made mistakes. Oh, I've made mistakes and will make more; but admit it?? Nah. A person who has an open mind to knowledge and ideas. Knowledge, yes. New ideas, somewhat. A person who can accept other people for who they are. I can accept people for being the total assholes they are, yes. A person who is patient. Hahahahahahahahahaha. No, A person who is brave. I run and hide from all danger, really! A person who is good. Um, once in a while, but mostly I am self-centered. A person that knows what good truly is. Well, I think I do, which is why I screw things up not being good. A person that knows how to maintain a calm demeanor, but also knows when to get angry about injustice. I am always angry about most everything, be it is getting better. A person that does not think about themselves, but rather about others. I think about one other - and my mother - and my brother and his kids. That's it. A person who wishes to better the world. Used to. Now I'm just happy if my students learn one or two things. Guess this means I am not yet fully an adult! :huh: |
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| Rhadamanthus | Dec 10 2011, 12:56 PM Post #235 |
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That urbandictionary definition should probably be taken with a grain of salt, since it is urban dictionary and that is the nature of the site. But I think a lot of people would agree with it. What bothers me about that definition is the implicit idea, quite widespread, that contributing to the economy means buying things. I don't have a well reasoned critique of the idea, but it bothers me very deeply and this has unsettled me for a little while now. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Dec 10 2011, 05:12 PM Post #236 |
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I believe that is completely correct and the use of a word as ill defined as "contribute" has rendered the discussion unstable! |
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| New Harumf | Dec 11 2011, 10:44 AM Post #237 |
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Wait. If the argument is unstable - OMG, it's gonna blow up!!!!! |
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| meh | Jan 12 2012, 08:47 PM Post #238 |
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I'm applying for a job next week. Problem is, I've grown very attached to my beard. What's the chance of me getting the job with my beard? The job is small, part time. Mostly data entry and office assistant work. |
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| Porcu | Jan 12 2012, 09:37 PM Post #239 |
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My experience, and that of my close friends, suggests that employers will let you keep a beard if you already have one and you keep it maintained. |
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| Aelius | Jan 12 2012, 10:49 PM Post #240 |
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This. Although, if you wanted to shave it and then grow it back, that wouldn't be a bad idea. I shaved before the interview for my current job (to be fair, though, it was on November 1, and I shaved Halloween night) and I let the beard grow out through the month and kept it at the end. Then again, my job isn't as hands-on with the public in person. |
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| Sedulius | Jan 13 2012, 12:47 AM Post #241 |
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Always shave before an interview. You never want to risk the chance at a job just because you wanted to keep your beard. It only takes a month to grow back anyways. |
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| meh | Jan 13 2012, 01:34 AM Post #242 |
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As logical as this sounds, I can't bring myself to do such a thing. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jan 13 2012, 09:25 AM Post #243 |
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It pains me not to maintain a beard, but I generally keep clean shaven precisely for the sake of job interviews. |
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| New Harumf | Jan 13 2012, 09:40 AM Post #244 |
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Meh, if you trim it quite short and neat, and get a hair cut, it will be fine. I never remove a beard before interviews, and I have had mine for a very, very, very long time. |
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| Telosan | Jan 17 2012, 10:52 AM Post #245 |
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Walking through NYC at the moment and passed a rather upscale, techy coffee shop called "Teleon Cafe", which I of course misread as Telosan. Wondering if I should try trademarking Telosan for future use, if I ever decide to do something. Maybe sell Ulg the rights to use it for his coffee shop. :lol: |
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| Sedulius | Jan 17 2012, 05:39 PM Post #246 |
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*Googles Telosan* Looks like Telosan is at least one place in Malaysia. I always thought Telosan sounded exotic. I'd go to the coffee shop, so long as the employees were cute girls. lulz |
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| New Harumf | Jan 17 2012, 06:18 PM Post #247 |
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Correction, cute boys! |
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| Porcu | Jan 17 2012, 07:26 PM Post #248 |
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Why, may I ask, should we not have the best of both worlds? |
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| Sedulius | Jan 17 2012, 08:05 PM Post #249 |
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Yeah, compromise, we can have both. Though I honestly have no idea what constitutes a cute boy. Damn teenagers! |
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| meh | Feb 7 2012, 10:18 PM Post #250 |
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So one of the girls I've gone to school with since the 6th grade does porn now. Not exactly what I was expecting, but I guess its the first person from my school years to have a solid career. |
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