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NS Star Wars; Bango!
Topic Started: Apr 1 2011, 02:31 AM (1,600 Views)
Aelius
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I'm indifferent on the Ewok thing. It does sound a little silly, but we are looking at more than a thousand years after the movies. It's possible that they could have become something beyond primitive in that time.
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Sedulius
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Curious, what race was Yoda?


http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoda%27s_species

:lol: They don't have a name for it.

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In 2005 on the Dark Horse message boards, Randy Stradley claimed that, along with Vulptereens, Ewoks are among the species mentally unable to manipulate the Force and as such can't become Jedi.[25] However, Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, released a year before, depicted an Ewok Jedi.[26]


I was sure it was Lucas that said it, but I was wrong. Looks like the Star Wars community is potentially split on the issue.

But, my main argument still stands. A space-faring Ewok faction with Jedi is going to affect the ability of the NS Star Wars forum to grow, because most people will think it too silly. I think you guys can see the logic in that. So far it looks like I'm getting no support though.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 8 2011, 04:06 PM.
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But, my main argument still stands. A space-faring Ewok faction with Jedi is going to affect the ability of the NS Star Wars forum to grow, because most people will think it too silly. I think you guys can see the logic in that. So far it looks like I'm getting no support though.
We've had some absurd things on our boards as well. I mean ... a 5000ft x 5000 ft klondike bar Pykrete battleship? Oh, and if you want to see the discussion that spawned, you can find that by clicking here. The actual thread where the RP took place can be found here.
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Apr 8 2011, 04:06 PM
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Curious, what race was Yoda?


http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoda%27s_species

:lol: They don't have a name for it.

Wookieepedia:Ewok
 
In 2005 on the Dark Horse message boards, Randy Stradley claimed that, along with Vulptereens, Ewoks are among the species mentally unable to manipulate the Force and as such can't become Jedi.[25] However, Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, released a year before, depicted an Ewok Jedi.[26]


I was sure it was Lucas that said it, but I was wrong. Looks like the Star Wars community is potentially split on the issue.

But, my main argument still stands. A space-faring Ewok faction with Jedi is going to affect the ability of the NS Star Wars forum to grow, because most people will think it too silly. I think you guys can see the logic in that. So far it looks like I'm getting no support though.
If the "Star Wars community" is so split on the issue, then why assume that most people would find it silly?
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Apr 8 2011, 04:52 PM
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Apr 8 2011, 04:06 PM
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Curious, what race was Yoda?


http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoda%27s_species

:lol: They don't have a name for it.

Wookieepedia:Ewok
 
In 2005 on the Dark Horse message boards, Randy Stradley claimed that, along with Vulptereens, Ewoks are among the species mentally unable to manipulate the Force and as such can't become Jedi.[25] However, Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, released a year before, depicted an Ewok Jedi.[26]


I was sure it was Lucas that said it, but I was wrong. Looks like the Star Wars community is potentially split on the issue.

But, my main argument still stands. A space-faring Ewok faction with Jedi is going to affect the ability of the NS Star Wars forum to grow, because most people will think it too silly. I think you guys can see the logic in that. So far it looks like I'm getting no support though.
If the "Star Wars community" is so split on the issue, then why assume that most people would find it silly?
If this can be a Jedi Master, why can't an Ewok?

I would say it's fine, within reason. No hordes of lightsaber wielding furries charging into battle.

Also, Sed, in the prologue, you say: "It has been two thousand years since the fall of the Galactic Empire." Do you mean after Endor? You go on to say the Empire still exists at the time that the Mandalorians attacked.
Edited by Telosan, Apr 8 2011, 05:03 PM.
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RD: I know people, and I know them well. Most people already hate Ewoks just as they are. People would think it even more retarded if the Ewoks were space-faring Jedi. I am confident that were I to conduct a poll such would be the findings.

Telo: That thing you link to is another reason why I hate Star Wars "canon". I mean, really? Someone was silly enough to make that a Jedi? These writers have problems.

On the Prologue, note that there is a difference between the Sith Empire and the Galactic Empire.

It is set two thousand years after the Galactic Empire falls (the one from the movies). During that time, a new Galactic Republic and a new Sith Empire rise at some point in time. They fight wars, each gaining dominance over the other over the centuries. This is a poke at Star Wars writers only ever copying the basic story of the movies. It's always Republic v Empire or Jedi v Sith in some big two-sided galactic struggle. Hence,my prologue breaks that cycle. Mandalorians conquer the galaxy, eventually fall, and now the galaxy is split between several factions, none being dominant or co-dominant.

I'm somewhat vague for good reason. The way I wrote the prologue does not conflict with canon, and it allowed me to not have to reference every bit of canon information. It allows someone who knows nothing about canon to understand what is going on in the game.

It is a working prologue. It can be modified.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 8 2011, 05:18 PM.
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People hate ewoks because they are cute, furry muppets. I will play them as legit characters. Why not?
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I know people, and I know them well.
:lol: I'm part of "people," and I want Jedi Ewoks.
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Apr 8 2011, 05:10 PM
Telo: That thing you link to is another reason why I hate Star Wars "canon". I mean, really? Someone was silly enough to make that a Jedi? These writers have problems.
Yeah, I hate that thing too.

Anyway, I would still say Ewoks are fine within reason. I mean, this is 2000 years (plus whatever the time gap is between the battle at Endor and the Empire's collapse) after Ewoks are introduced to extraterrestrial life. Their technology would jump forward by centuries. Not only do they now have plenty of high tech equipment and scrap metal suddenly available after the Death Star, they have years to expand on that. Without any contact with extraterrestrials, we humans have advanced a great deal in 2000 years. We went from looking at stars to landing on the moon. Why can't the Ewoks do that, especially if the technology was essentially given to them?
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Alright. I did say I would back down if most of you disagreed. I've said what I have to say on the issue.
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Sed, you have some planning to do before you become a father.
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Apr 9 2011, 11:31 PM


Sed, you have some planning to do before you become a father.
I saw this months ago. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Apr 9 2011, 11:31 PM
Sed, you have some planning to do before you become a father.
Ha,funny enough I actually have thought about that issue. I'm definitely going to have my kids watch the original trilogy first, probably the original versions.
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Alright, as of right now we have:

Telo - Corellian Confederation
NH - Ewoks
E - someone (I'm guessing Trandosha/Kashyyyk)
Lans - someone
Sed - Mandalorians

If I missed anyone, please speak up. Anyone is allowed to join at any time, of course.

It's up to you guys to decide what to do with the Jedi and Sith. As the Mandalorians, I will be hunting them.

Right now, I'm going to go ahead and start with the map. I'm going to put the 9 systems the Corellian Confederation had on the last map onto the new map. I think it'll be fair if everyone starts with 10 systems (so one more for you Telo). I'll select 10 for myself, based around Mandalore. I'll give NH's Ewoks the system of Endor (so 9 more to select for you NH). E and Lans, you'll have to PM me on NS Star Wars and tell me which systems you want, and give me the name of your faction.

EDIT: Actually, Telo already has 10 systems. Alderaan is destroyed, but he has Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia all in one dot. So he's good.

EDIT 2: Also, I recommend looking up a system before requesting it. It may have particularly strategic value, or it may be a dead system (Alderaan, Katarr, etc.).

EDIT 3: One more thing: no one claim Coruscant. I think this is only fair as Coruscant itself is worth several systems over. I think the taking of Coruscant should be RPed. (It's kind of like Rome here in NS.)
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 16 2011, 01:10 AM.
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If I can, I'd like to claim the arc of systems comprising Eriadu, Omwat, Arbra, and Naboo for a to-be-determined faction. I'll register with the forum a bit later today.

EDIT: Also, can you mark Enarc and Chommel Minor as under control of the faction? I'm planning for them to be more or less uninhabitable, though.
Edited by Abnar, Apr 16 2011, 10:47 AM.
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I sent Sed a PM for that area last night.
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Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the lurkiest of them all?
Ah crap.
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Apr 16 2011, 12:36 AM
EDIT: Actually, Telo already has 10 systems. Alderaan is destroyed, but he has Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia all in one dot. So he's good.
I intend to still use Alderaan/the Graveyard at some point. Also, you mention that I have 3 planets in one dot, but the dots represent a single system named after one planet within it. Are we going to count individual planets, or will it be a judgement call based on how populated a particular system may be? Contested systems may be an interesting thing for the future.

Sed, the map seems a bit more pixelated than it was before. You saved it as a .png, I was using .jpeg because it supports larger images.

EDIT: The map's larger version doesn't appear larger. :unsure:
Edited by Telosan, Apr 16 2011, 01:03 PM.
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What are the teal systems on the map??
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Apr 16 2011, 01:02 PM
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Apr 16 2011, 12:36 AM
EDIT: Actually, Telo already has 10 systems. Alderaan is destroyed, but he has Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia all in one dot. So he's good.
I intend to still use Alderaan/the Graveyard at some point. Also, you mention that I have 3 planets in one dot, but the dots represent a single system named after one planet within it. Are we going to count individual planets, or will it be a judgement call based on how populated a particular system may be? Contested systems may be an interesting thing for the future.

Sed, the map seems a bit more pixelated than it was before. You saved it as a .png, I was using .jpeg because it supports larger images.

EDIT: The map's larger version doesn't appear larger. :unsure:
You have three systems in one dot. Look them up. Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia are three different systems. It would be unfair not to recognize that. Alderaan, on the other hand, isn't counting towards your systems, but you still get it.

As far as the map goes, it looks the same as it always has to me. The large version is appearing fine. I use png because it is less pixelated than jpg. As soon as you save something as jpg, it pixelates terribly. In any case, I made this map off of a fresh blank (the original blank), so there isn't a better template out there.

EDIT: NH, the teal systems are just other systems. Some of them have special value, some of them don't. Just treat them like any other system.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 16 2011, 09:08 PM.
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Apr 16 2011, 08:20 PM
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Apr 16 2011, 01:02 PM
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EDIT: Actually, Telo already has 10 systems. Alderaan is destroyed, but he has Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia all in one dot. So he's good.
I intend to still use Alderaan/the Graveyard at some point. Also, you mention that I have 3 planets in one dot, but the dots represent a single system named after one planet within it. Are we going to count individual planets, or will it be a judgement call based on how populated a particular system may be? Contested systems may be an interesting thing for the future.

Sed, the map seems a bit more pixelated than it was before. You saved it as a .png, I was using .jpeg because it supports larger images.

EDIT: The map's larger version doesn't appear larger. :unsure:
You have three systems in one dot. Look them up. Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia are three different systems. It would be unfair not to recognize that. Alderaan, on the other hand, isn't counting towards your systems, but you still get it.

As far as the map goes, it looks the same as it always has to me. The large version is appearing fine. I use png because it is less pixelated than jpg. As soon as you save something as jpg, it pixelates terribly. In any case, I made this map off of a fresh blank (the original blank), so there isn't a better template out there.

EDIT: NH, the teal systems are just other systems. Some of them have special value, some of them don't. Just treat them like any other system.
Ah, I see. They're listed on the map too.

In the first run of this, I had expanded into Eclipse. Since I already have so many planets, I'll assume that I have to leave that to further expansion, right?
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Apr 16 2011, 10:11 PM
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EDIT: Actually, Telo already has 10 systems. Alderaan is destroyed, but he has Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia all in one dot. So he's good.
I intend to still use Alderaan/the Graveyard at some point. Also, you mention that I have 3 planets in one dot, but the dots represent a single system named after one planet within it. Are we going to count individual planets, or will it be a judgement call based on how populated a particular system may be? Contested systems may be an interesting thing for the future.

Sed, the map seems a bit more pixelated than it was before. You saved it as a .png, I was using .jpeg because it supports larger images.

EDIT: The map's larger version doesn't appear larger. :unsure:
You have three systems in one dot. Look them up. Kuat, Balmorra, and Neimoidia are three different systems. It would be unfair not to recognize that. Alderaan, on the other hand, isn't counting towards your systems, but you still get it.

As far as the map goes, it looks the same as it always has to me. The large version is appearing fine. I use png because it is less pixelated than jpg. As soon as you save something as jpg, it pixelates terribly. In any case, I made this map off of a fresh blank (the original blank), so there isn't a better template out there.

EDIT: NH, the teal systems are just other systems. Some of them have special value, some of them don't. Just treat them like any other system.
Ah, I see. They're listed on the map too.

In the first run of this, I had expanded into Eclipse. Since I already have so many planets, I'll assume that I have to leave that to further expansion, right?
Right. We gotta ensure things start out equally.
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Apr 16 2011, 10:52 PM
Right. We gotta ensure things start out equally.
The Star Wars universe isn't about equality. It's about imbalance, and power struggles, and and different factions jockeying for their position in a Galaxy far greater than they.

If you lack this dynamic, your RP will ultimately lack for meaning, and it will fall apart.

How you choose to set this up, how you want to proceed through it, et cetera--that's up to you guys.

But however you decide to do it, you need to do it, because Star Wars is about conflict.



You're all skilled roleplayers. You're all adults, or at least relatively mature human beings. Figure it out, or all other discussion is moot.
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Okay, I'd like to claim Zahr, Socorro, Lok, Tythe, Nelvaan (Should actually be Koobi, FYI), Orvax, Tatooine, Geonosis, Siskeen, and Lamaredd for the Phoenix Charter, assuming nobody has beaten me to the punch yet.
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The Ewoks find it in their best interest to control:
The moon of Endor
Zonama Sekot
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Bakura
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