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NS Star Wars; Bango!
Topic Started: Apr 1 2011, 02:31 AM (1,601 Views)
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Apr 5 2011, 09:09 AM
Al Araam
Apr 5 2011, 02:12 AM
Evil Ewoks on the Death Star. Do it.
Seconded.

Also, NH, would your Evil Ewoks want to invade the Independent Commonwealth?
Haven't figured that out yet. I might play them as Al-Quida-type terrorists pissed about some past (long past) perceived wrong. Where the hell is the Ewok planet on the map??
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Where the hell is the Ewok planet on the map??
Its actually a life-bearing moon. Bottom of the image, outer territories, left side, system called "Endor."

Edit- Read fail. Revised a line in the post.
Edited by Eleytheria-Duo, Apr 5 2011, 09:54 AM.
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Ah, yes, now I remember, Endor. I'm gonna have to watch the damn movies again - last time was like in the '80's.
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Apr 5 2011, 01:03 AM
I wouldn't mind playing Sith, but I think I'd rather be a little less heavy on outright Force users with my faction. I'd like to have something somewhat similar to Onderon from KOTOR II. What I could do, however, is have some of my gray Jedi branch off to join outright Jedi orders or form new Sith factions.

At any rate, someone should be a Sith Empire. Sed should be the Mandalorians, they'd be useful in that universe. To the forum as a whole, though: if you know any Star Wars fans who might be interested in Star Wars RPing, you should refer them to this.
You could be the Republic with a recovering but weak Jedi Order. I was planning to make the Sith Empire recovering as well. Everyone got their ass handed to them by Mandalorians in a big galactic war, but the Mandalorians ultimately were unable to keep control. Most of the Sith and Jedi were hunted down by Mandalorians for sport (and still are), but both orders still live. Hence, there is no domininant power in the galaxy, nor are there even two that balance each other. All factions are relatively weak compared to the factions of old. If people are interested, I'll post my full idea for the backstory. But that's pretty much the summary.

EDIT: But as I said, we really only need the Sith or the Jedi. One or the other can be in hiding. I recommend the Republic and Jedi to you, Lans, because you seem more the Jedi type. I would think you could RP them very well. The Sith just don't seem to fit you, but I could be wrong and you could surprise me.

Of course, I'm also saying this because I am heavily leaning towards being the Sith Empire. I have so many ideas on how to RP them, and already so many characters in mind. I've always been drawn to the Sith for some reason.

I would say if you really want to be the Sith, then be them. I would also say that if someone else really wants to be the Mandalorians, I'll let them, and I'll be the Sith. If no one particularly wants either, then I'll have to choose. If there are Jedi and no Sith, I will be Sith. If there are neither, then I will be the Mandalorians, who will constantly hunt the Jedi and Sith, and the Jedi and Sith can be spread throughout all the factions, with each person RPing characters as they wish.

Opinions?
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 5 2011, 02:11 PM.
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I expect to be able to roleplay some of my Space Gypsies as Jedis or Siths of some variety. I don't think we need a player controlled faction of either, per se.
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Apr 5 2011, 03:28 PM
I don't think we need a player controlled faction of either, per se.
Inclined to agree with this. I don't think we need one big Republic monolith, either, I thought we were looking at small factions. I mean, if you want to give me a larger swath of systems, I'd be okay with it. If we're only getting smaller sectors, I'd like that stretch of the Mid-Rim with Onderon, Manaan and the surrounding territories.
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Apr 5 2011, 04:22 PM
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I don't think we need a player controlled faction of either, per se.
Inclined to agree with this. I don't think we need one big Republic monolith, either, I thought we were looking at small factions. I mean, if you want to give me a larger swath of systems, I'd be okay with it. If we're only getting smaller sectors, I'd like that stretch of the Mid-Rim with Onderon, Manaan and the surrounding territories.
I wasn't no big Republic. Just something like the Republic. And hats.

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Apr 6 2011, 02:13 AM
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I don't think we need a player controlled faction of either, per se.
Inclined to agree with this. I don't think we need one big Republic monolith, either, I thought we were looking at small factions. I mean, if you want to give me a larger swath of systems, I'd be okay with it. If we're only getting smaller sectors, I'd like that stretch of the Mid-Rim with Onderon, Manaan and the surrounding territories.
I wasn't no big Republic. Just something like the Republic. And hats.

Vest.
There could be multiple Republics. Say that the Senators made smaller groups and aligned their systems with each other before declaring independence from the New Republic.
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Apr 6 2011, 10:44 AM
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I don't think we need a player controlled faction of either, per se.
Inclined to agree with this. I don't think we need one big Republic monolith, either, I thought we were looking at small factions. I mean, if you want to give me a larger swath of systems, I'd be okay with it. If we're only getting smaller sectors, I'd like that stretch of the Mid-Rim with Onderon, Manaan and the surrounding territories.
I wasn't no big Republic. Just something like the Republic. And hats.

Vest.
There could be multiple Republics. Say that the Senators made smaller groups and aligned their systems with each other before declaring independence from the New Republic.
That's not a bad idea, especially considering the Corellian Confederation is already somewhat along those lines.

I'm liking the idea of the Jedi Order being controlled by no one faction, but rather spread among several factions. This is more realistic anyways. We could even have someone RP as the Jedi Grandmaster, just as there are Popes for NS.

The Sith, however, should operate as a single unified entity, though with problems inside their faction.

Alrighty then. Someone call the Sith before I do. Someone who knows how to RP the darkness in men's hearts. Someone who knows the essence of the DARK SIDE!

POWAH! UNLIMITED POWAH! :lol:
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I'm likely going to have some sort of force-sensitive order. Probably non-conventional dark Jedi.

I define "dark Jedi" to be well-intentioned people who generally believe in the phrase "the ends justifies the means" and have no qualms sacrificing people, directly or indirectly, so long as they can justify their goal as having a higher moral purpose on their own moral scale.
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I think AGM should play the Sith. :P
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Apr 6 2011, 08:31 PM
I think AGM should play the Sith. :P
Or the Empire. It's very likely that they'd still be around in the same capacity as the Republic. The Expanded Universe keeps them around and, while most people despise any books after the movies, it does make sense that the Empire would continue on after Palpatine's death.
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I thought we were doing this several hundred years after canon ended? :huh:
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Right, but I'm saying the Empire would still exist. By canon, we mean the end of the movies, right?
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It'd be more after the comics ended, which is 130 years after the movies. At any rate, a Sith Empire could easily exist, but I doubt it'd be the same as the Empire from the movies. IC, it'd probably be just referred to as the Sith.
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Apr 6 2011, 09:40 PM
It'd be more after the comics ended, which is 130 years after the movies. At any rate, a Sith Empire could easily exist, but I doubt it'd be the same as the Empire from the movies. IC, it'd probably be just referred to as the Sith.
The comics are canon, too? I thought they counted as the Expanded Universe. I've only read a handful of them and not consecutive issues, so I'm not sure how the story goes.

In the Expanded Universe fleshed out through books, after Endor, the New Republic/Rebels made it to Coruscant and kicked out the Empire. Fast forward through the Emperor's revivals, various threats, etc, and about 30 years after the New Republic is established, the books talk about the New Republic and the Empire signing a treaty that joins them into the Alliance (forget the full name). The Alliance is opposed by various systems who break away, among them the Corellian Confederation. War, blah, blah, and the Empire and New Republic eventually separate again, but there are various smaller factions now as well. So the Empire still exists through all this.

It's entirely possible there could be a Sith Empire and the regular Empire at the same time.
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You're absolutely right Lans. I'll PM AGM and ask him if he's interested. Then I can just be the Mandos.
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Telo, can you make me an admin on the NS Star Wars forum?

Here's the link if you don't have it: http://s1.zetaboards.com/NS_StarWars/index/

I'd like to archive most of the old stuff so we can get started with this.
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Apr 7 2011, 04:34 AM
Telo, can you make me an admin on the NS Star Wars forum?

Here's the link if you don't have it: http://s1.zetaboards.com/NS_StarWars/index/

I'd like to archive most of the old stuff so we can get started with this.
I've made you an admin and created an archive. I'll start archiving a few things now.
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Apr 7 2011, 01:55 PM
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Apr 7 2011, 04:34 AM
Telo, can you make me an admin on the NS Star Wars forum?

Here's the link if you don't have it: http://s1.zetaboards.com/NS_StarWars/index/

I'd like to archive most of the old stuff so we can get started with this.
I've made you an admin and created an archive. I'll start archiving a few things now.
Schweet. Yeah, I just saw. You'll probably see me logged in there. Thanks. I'll let you do your work first so we aren't trying to archive things at the same time.
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Apr 7 2011, 02:01 PM
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Telo, can you make me an admin on the NS Star Wars forum?

Here's the link if you don't have it: http://s1.zetaboards.com/NS_StarWars/index/

I'd like to archive most of the old stuff so we can get started with this.
I've made you an admin and created an archive. I'll start archiving a few things now.
Schweet. Yeah, I just saw. You'll probably see me logged in there. Thanks. I'll let you do your work first so we aren't trying to archive things at the same time.
I plan on leaving all faction threads and pinned topics alone. The Prologue can just be edited. I think everything should be set to start again, though you can make a few further edits if you like.
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Apr 7 2011, 02:27 PM
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Apr 7 2011, 04:34 AM
Telo, can you make me an admin on the NS Star Wars forum?

Here's the link if you don't have it: http://s1.zetaboards.com/NS_StarWars/index/

I'd like to archive most of the old stuff so we can get started with this.
I've made you an admin and created an archive. I'll start archiving a few things now.
Schweet. Yeah, I just saw. You'll probably see me logged in there. Thanks. I'll let you do your work first so we aren't trying to archive things at the same time.
I plan on leaving all faction threads and pinned topics alone. The Prologue can just be edited. I think everything should be set to start again, though you can make a few further edits if you like.
I'll probably move some of the factions. Reza was Al Qalaa I believe, and he isn't around here anymore. There may be others. But I won't take any action immediately. We'll just wait to see who's active.
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Alright, I hate to get nitpicky, but here goes.

I don't like the idea of space-faring, Jedi Ewoks. It just doesn't fit into Star Wars. Star Wars can be silly at times, but this is too silly.

George Lucas himself stated there should not be Jedi Ewoks. He also stopped the EU before they got too carried away with Jedi Wookiees (he limited them to the three they already had, and that was that).

I'm just saying, if new players ever come along, they are not going to take NS Star Wars seriously if they see space-faring Ewoks and Jedi Ewoks. It kills the ability of the NS Star Wars forum to get new players.

NH, I ask that you please consider being some other faction for this sake. If most other players agree with my reasoning on this, then we won't be able to allow such a faction. If most other players disagree with me on this, then I'll back down.

I just don't want to see this die in its infancy because of a bit of silliness.

That said, this does bring up the issue that rules and guidelines should be established. I don't want them to be overbearing. I want the rules to be much like they are here on NSWR. But given that it is NS Star Wars, certain parameters will have to be respected. Don't worry. I'm not one for going uber-canon.

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NS Star Wars Prologue

It's a working prologue for now, an idea of how the current situation in the galaxy could be reached.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 8 2011, 04:59 AM.
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Curious, what race was Yoda?

Also, here are two quotes from Wookipedia discussions. The last sentence of the second quote is really to the point:
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For all intents and purposes, any race can become a jedi, aside from the yuuzhan vong. The main reason why there aren't really any known examples of ewok jedi are because of the fact that they're primitive, and had little to no contact to the galaxy outside of their home world. And, their customs more or less dictate that the force sensitive ones are usually their shamans and healers. To make the idea work, a jedi would more or less have to find one of these force sensitive ewoks and convince him/her to leave Endor to train as a jedi. —Unsigned comment by 99.108.25.220 (talk • contribs).
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So Lucas said that a Vulptereen (Dud Bolt) cannot become Jedi because they are not intellegent enough, however there is so far no reason to say the same for an Ewok, therefore it's ludicrous to say they can't be Jedi. I concur with the previous comment, that the Ewoks are somewhat removed from the republic, so force sensitives wouldn't have been discovered. Even if they were discovered it would take some convincing because of the removed culture that the Ewoks have developed away from a less primitive society. Shamans would definately possess the right requirements for Jedi training, because the Ewoks are intellegent. Theyre handicapped though because they live aloof from other beings and other worlds. So theyre intellegence only goes as far as their own lifestyle. I don't know if the Ewoks were more involved with other worlds after the battle of Endor, but if they were then eventually some Ewoks will break away from the planet, and eventually some will become Jedi. Something like that would take years and years, so I don't see the Star Wars universe creating any unless they jump ahead to 1000 ABY or something. --JimminyTi 00:48, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
Also, please note: Lucas specifically said the yuuzhan vong were the ONLY race that could not become Jedi. Not arguing, just pointing this out.

Also, I am not the only person to have thought this possible, as you can see here.
Edited by New Harumf, Apr 8 2011, 08:55 AM.
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I think Ewoks ought to be able to fly spaceships and be Jedis if they want.
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