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College Educations, Part II; Now with less sketchiness
Topic Started: Jun 2 2010, 11:24 PM (5,447 Views)
Union
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My last semester classes.

International Human Rights Law and Applications
Symbolic Logic Part III :sad:
Global Public Health
Peacekeeping in the Balkans
Decision Making in Foreign Policy


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Jan 18 2011, 07:34 PM
My last semester classes.

International Human Rights Law and Applications
Symbolic Logic Part III :sad:
Global Public Health
Peacekeeping in the Balkans
Decision Making in Foreign Policy


International Human Rights Law and Applications Bullshit
Symbolic Logic Part III :sad: What, #0#&#, #%#&## how difficult is that??
Global Public Health Bullshit
Peacekeeping in the Balkans Bullshit
Decision Making in Foreign Policy Bullshit

How is this difficult??
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flumes
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I'm in the business cluster. :(

4 business classes grouped together with a 5th class that is solely 3 group projects. Our first project was a industry analysis of the higher education industry with a focus on the for-profit sector. Due last Thursday... Yeah, not even a full two weeks into the quarter ... 20 pages (single spaced) along with a power point and some handouts to go along with it for our 10 minute presentation and following Q&A.

After a nice 3 day weekend filled with much alcohol, we got project two started today. We move now into the micro-realm of for-profit education, preparing a schematic report on it...

At least our last project should really interesting... Hands-on consultation with a local client (for example, one cluster redesigned a local bar/restaurant.)

Then I've got those 4 classes on top of those projects. :dry: :sad:

But hey, this wonderful cluster experience is why our undergraduate rankings have skyrocketed the past couple years. I admit I have learned a lot already. Cluster parties are epic too... :gnarkgnark:
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International Human Rights Law and Applications


It's a legal class. With precedents, cases, applications, limitations, and so forth. It is at the law school.

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Symbolic Logic Part III

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic

It's a pain in the ass?

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Global Public Health


It's a statistics based class. But yeah, not my major concern.

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Peacekeeping in the Balkans


It's a technical class, part of the ROTC program for all officers. I'm taking it for my major, with permission, and has a GIS lab component I'm dreading.

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Decision Making in Foreign Policy


A couple fifty page papers. Mostly an annoyance.
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The reason I say symbolic, or first order logic is easy is because the language I work with in programming is a symbol-based language, i.e., no words, and used the symbol set for first-order logic as its basis, so I can easily read all of the equations in that Wiki article. We, of course, have evolved our language to include generalized array notation and set theory, nested arrays and parent/child structures, to allow interfacing with .net and other languages, but our basis is still pure logical symbols.

Here is what the keyboard looks like (also, be aware, there are overstrike characters, the full character set has 255 characters):
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Here's a sample of code that is the complete program for "Conway's game if Life", you might actually be able to understand it:
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The definition of the "game of life is:
1.Any live cell with fewer than two live neighbours dies, as if caused by under-population.
2.Any live cell with two or three live neighbours lives on to the next generation.
3.Any live cell with more than three live neighbours dies, as if by overcrowding.
4.Any dead cell with exactly three live neighbours becomes a live cell, as if by reproduction.
Cells are defined here as a boolian generalized matrix (omega) where the result (life) is the next generation.

Since most others in the IT business have their heads explode then they look at our code, we are not really popular.

Flumes, sounds like that business course would be fun!
Edited by New Harumf, Jan 19 2011, 03:02 PM.
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New Harumf
Jan 19 2011, 09:47 AM
Flumes, sounds like that business course would be fun!
It definitely is, just a lot of work required..
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So I feel like I've shot myself in the foot. I was refused acceptance to York University (applied for French Studies, International Studies and Linguistics) and Ryerson University (applied for English, Journalism and Sociology), which, granted, were all fairly "worthless" degrees in the first place, although I could've transferred courses. I was accepted to every college I applied to, however: George Brown for Pre-Business (if I wanted to go that route), Centennial for Broadcasting and Film, and Seneca for Advertising (which is very hard to get in to for most, apparently) as well as Broadcasting and Journalism. I was also accepted to Tyndale for International Business.

There are some problems, of course. While Creative Advertising would've been an excellent job that would guarantee a good living, the campus had only 1000 people, the teachers and students at the orientation seemed snobby and ready to back-stab once internship competition started to come around, and the work sounded stressful beyond belief (and too much stress sends me into flying rages :angry: ). As for Broadcasting and Journalism at Seneca, I turned it down because the campus is in a shitty area and I thought at the time that Broadcasting and Film would be more broad in what it taught. Centennial, at the time, seemed perfect, because the teachers and students all seemed really down to earth, the campus was very nice and close to downtown Toronto, and is only 20 minutes by bus from my house.

But now I'm hearing that broadcasting, and especially film, aren't good businesses to get into these days, although sometimes I hear otherwise (and that you just have to be competitive). But my only other choice is Tyndale, an [accredited] Christian university, and I'm hearing even from my pastor that it's not a good idea to go there unless I want to get into religious studies, and that job employers may turn down people from the university simply because it's Christian. Plus, I don't like the idea of a small campus full of cookie-cutter Christians that may or may not be snobby and arrogant, or Christian girls who are usually too prudish to even consider dating.

So, it looks like I'm stuck with Broadcasting and Film, and I don't want to waste another year outside of tertiary education. Although, my neighbour across the street who works for a public relations firm says that it would be an excellent course to do, as it would open my options to include many jobs including public relations, which I feel that I could excell at. But eh. What do you guys think about all this?
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Here is the key - Centennial will be cheapest since you will NOT have to pay for room and boared - I don't know if this is a problem in the Great White North, but the last thing you want to do in college is accumulate a lot of debt; nothing is worse than starting out in life $50,000 behind the starting line.

Also, it sounds like a useful program since this could lead to public relations, advertising, television or production - nice to have options. Plus, you should have intern opportunities that could make connections for a possible career hookup later.

The bottom line - just get your education, and when you are ready to make money, go for it, even if you have not finished your degree. Good luck!
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Jun 11 2011, 03:43 PM
But my only other choice is Tyndale, an [accredited] Christian university, and I'm hearing even from my pastor that it's not a good idea to go there unless I want to get into religious studies, and that job employers may turn down people from the university simply because it's Christian. Plus, I don't like the idea of a small campus full of cookie-cutter Christians that may or may not be snobby and arrogant, or Christian girls who are usually too prudish to even consider dating.
These are all legitimate reasons not to go there, except for the one that I bolded. There is nothing that makes "Christians" any more cookie-cutter than any other group (or what would we make of the sordid history of schisms?). And there will be, at Tyndale and at most any other college or university, ample numbers of students snobby, arrogant, both, and neither.
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Rhadamanthus
Jun 11 2011, 03:57 PM
Hesperia
Jun 11 2011, 03:43 PM
But my only other choice is Tyndale, an [accredited] Christian university, and I'm hearing even from my pastor that it's not a good idea to go there unless I want to get into religious studies, and that job employers may turn down people from the university simply because it's Christian. Plus, I don't like the idea of a small campus full of cookie-cutter Christians that may or may not be snobby and arrogant, or Christian girls who are usually too prudish to even consider dating.
These are all legitimate reasons not to go there, except for the one that I bolded. There is nothing that makes "Christians" any more cookie-cutter than any other group (or what would we make of the sordid history of schisms?). And there will be, at Tyndale and at most any other college or university, ample numbers of students snobby, arrogant, both, and neither.
You're right, and I generalized a bit too much there. I'm a Christian myself, as I've made known several times on the forum. I just find environments where Christians are the vast majority to be suffocating, to say the least, either because they are too self-righteous or have hypocrites in their midst. But that's human nature, of course, including that of my own.

Anyways, I'm going for Centennial. Thanks for the advice, guys. :)
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Jun 19 2011, 07:39 PM
Anyways, I'm going for Centennial. Thanks for the advice, guys. :)
Good luck! :D
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Thank God you aren't asian.
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Oh, right, I graduated from college a couple months ago.
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Congratulations, then! I hope you're settling into the real world alright.
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Indeed, congratulations!
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Aye, thanks. If all this business about the government making loans for grad students that much more painful (and in turn, you know, continues to demotivate the populace from becoming better education in profitable fields) I might take a stab at an advanced master's degree, but that's in the future. For now I'm all teashops and the like.
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Aug 6 2011, 06:17 PM
Aye, thanks. If all this business about the government making loans for grad students that much more painful (and in turn, you know, continues to demotivate the populace from becoming better education in profitable fields) I might take a stab at an advanced master's degree, but that's in the future. For now I'm all teashops and the like.
Are you angling for a job in a related field? Say, coffee houses? Different, but a valuable experience that will give you insight into the possible problems you'll face at some point in your planned business's existence nonetheless.
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Aug 7 2011, 06:39 PM
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Aug 6 2011, 06:17 PM
Aye, thanks. If all this business about the government making loans for grad students that much more painful (and in turn, you know, continues to demotivate the populace from becoming better education in profitable fields) I might take a stab at an advanced master's degree, but that's in the future. For now I'm all teashops and the like.
Are you angling for a job in a related field? Say, coffee houses? Different, but a valuable experience that will give you insight into the possible problems you'll face at some point in your planned business's existence nonetheless.
I'm working a couple days a week at a coffee shop on top of my other job. I'm pretty confident with this whole gaining experience thing.
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Aug 6 2011, 06:17 PM
Aye, thanks. If all this business about the government making loans for grad students that much more painful (and in turn, you know, continues to demotivate the populace from becoming better education in profitable fields) I might take a stab at an advanced master's degree, but that's in the future. For now I'm all teashops and the like.
You're generally heading down the right path. Entrepreneurship and hustling for work are infinitely better than going to grad school on a giant, intractable loan.
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Aug 6 2011, 06:17 PM
Aye, thanks. If all this business about the government making loans for grad students that much more painful (and in turn, you know, continues to demotivate the populace from becoming better education in profitable fields) I might take a stab at an advanced master's degree, but that's in the future. For now I'm all teashops and the like.
You're generally heading down the right path. Entrepreneurship and hustling for work are infinitely better than going to grad school on a giant, intractable loan.
Word.
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Well, here's the piece of paper I still owe $8,000 on. Maybe someday it will actually do me some good.
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Still waiting on mine, apparently I still owed the school $200 and didn't find out til I went to get an official transcript to send to a school district I was looking to get hired in. When I went to pay it off, I was told I was "on the list" to get a letter....guess they'd have gotten it to me eventually :dry:

That said, its all taken care of now and I'm now patiently awaiting my diploma :lol:
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Aug 8 2011, 10:31 AM
Well, here's the piece of paper I still owe $8,000 on. Maybe someday it will actually do me some good.
Only 8 grand? You got off comparatively easy. Just think of those poor bastards who graduate from Harvard Law and can't get a job to pay off their $250,000+ in student loans.
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Aug 8 2011, 01:47 PM
Lansdallius
Aug 8 2011, 10:31 AM
Well, here's the piece of paper I still owe $8,000 on. Maybe someday it will actually do me some good.
Only 8 grand? You got off comparatively easy. Just think of those poor bastards who graduate from Harvard Law and can't get a job to pay off their $250,000+ in student loans.
Point taken. Given that it's from a major (albeit public) state university, I suppose I fared well. Still really sick of working retail, though, and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.
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Aug 8 2011, 10:31 AM
Well, here's the piece of paper I still owe $8,000 on. Maybe someday it will actually do me some good.
You have already reaped the primary benefit, a liberal arts education.
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