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College Educations, Part II; Now with less sketchiness
Topic Started: Jun 2 2010, 11:24 PM (5,449 Views)
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Rhadamanthus
Sep 14 2010, 02:04 PM
Telosan
Sep 14 2010, 01:42 PM
The only classes this hasn't worked for me is math and any art related class. Math is difficult to fake quality, and I fail at art so badly that no "good" effort can be made even with my best work. Besides, art teachers look for quality more so than other teachers anyway.
In Math, you are either right or you aren't. No room for the magic of perception. It is the language of the angels and an insight into the mind of God.
But lacks poetry, imagery, sound and fury. Also, there is no ambiguity, which makes it useless for wit and wisdom. Or, rather:

m =/ p+i+a

To imitate Oscar Wilde - All math is quite useless!
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What NH said.

I like discussion and argument. Math only offers discussion and argument when you get into the theoretical and the most recent stuff that still isn't entirely understood.

And you need a fully fledged education in math to get that far.
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Right, but the point I was responding to was why Telosan's usual tactics don't work in math classes.
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I know. You worded it so elegantly though that I had to respond :lol:
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Sep 14 2010, 05:36 PM
I know. You worded it so elegantly though that I had to respond :lol:
:lol: What can I say? I'm one of those rare nutjobs who loves math!
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A math test can be graded in five minutes. An essay cannot. That's the difference.
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A friend of mine in high school would smoke weed every time he did his calc homework, logic being that the numbers moved themselves. He never did very well, but I'm pretty sure his homework took more than 5 minutes to grade (for whatever reason our teacher was very OCD about getting the fair grade for every assignment). :lol:
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Dec 5 2010, 10:28 PM
Anyone know of some prestigious colleges that focus on International Relations? Keep in mind that I have a 3.37 GPA and a 29 ACT score, so nothing like Georgetown or Harvard.

I would love to go the the Geneva School for Diplomacy and International Relations, but I doubt I could get in, plus its a money issue, again.
Why not join me at Ohio State? :D I've heard that they have a very good study abroad program that incorporates various majors such as international relations really well.
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Dec 5 2010, 10:28 PM
Anyone know of some prestigious colleges that focus on International Relations? Keep in mind that I have a 3.37 GPA and a 29 ACT score, so nothing like Georgetown or Harvard.

I would love to go the the Geneva School for Diplomacy and International Relations, but I doubt I could get in, plus its a money issue, again.
Isn't a 29 well above the mean?
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Harumf, I disagree with you about math being artless. I think the way it is taught at a low level is artless, sure, but not math itself (and I say that as somebody who doesn't have the inclination to pursue higher math).

Interesting article on the subject: http://www.maa.org/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

How much are your parents willing to pay for out-of-state tuition? If not all of it, just get a job to pay the rest. You'll probably have a bit of debt, but if you want out of Cali that bad then I don't see many options.

OSU has some nice jobs for students, btw. I'm thinking of getting training and driving a bus one of these upcoming quarters.
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OSU has a policy whereby the student becomes designated an in-state resident after living in a dorm for one school year and completing classes. Afterwards, you are eligible for the lower rate. It is not beneficial to the tax payers of Ohio but is beneficial for those looking for a lower tuition.
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School rankings in International Relations from the Foreign Policy Institute:

Top 20 Undergraduate Programs

1. Harvard University 48%
2. Princeton University 46%
3. Stanford University 30%
4. Georgetown University 28%
5. Columbia University 28%
6. Yale University 23%
7. University of Chicago 21%
8. University of California-Berkeley 12%
9. Dartmouth College 11%
10. George Washington University 10%
11. American University 10%
12. University of Michigan 9%
13. Tufts University 8%
14. Swarthmore College 8%
14. University of California-San Diego 8%
16. Cornell University 6%
17. Brown University 6%
18. Williams College 5%
19. Duke University 5%
19. Johns Hopkins University 5%

Top 20 Master's Programs

1. Georgetown University 65%
2. Johns Hopkins University 64%
3. Harvard University 46%
4. Tufts University 42%
5. Columbia University 39%
6. Princeton University 38%
7. George Washington University 28%
8. American University 19%
9. University of Denver 9%
10. Syracuse University 7%
11. University of California-San Diego 5%
12. University of Chicago 4%
12. Yale University 4%
14. Stanford University 4%
15. University of Pittsburgh 3%
16. University of California-Berkeley 2%
17. University of Maryland 2%
18. Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2%
19. Monterey Institute of International Studies 2%
20. University of Southern California 2%

Top 20 PhD Programs

1. Harvard University 65%
2. Princeton University 52%
3. Columbia University 45%
4. Standford University 45%
5. University of Chicago 30%
6. Yale University 26%
7. University of California-Berkeley 25%
8. University of Michigan 22%
9. University of California-San Diego 20%
10. Cornell University 12%
11. Massachusetts Institute of Technology 11%
12. Johns Hopkins University 10%
13. Georgetown University 8%
14. Duke University 8%
15. Ohio State University 8%
16. New York University 7%
17. University of Minnesota 5%
18. University of California-Los Angeles 5%
19. Tufts University 4%
20. University of Rochester 4%

Got a spare room we could rent cheap, but you'd need a car to get to UofM.
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What's so bad about California, exactly?
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Dec 7 2010, 09:08 AM
School rankings in International Relations from the Foreign Policy Institute:

Top 20 Undergraduate Programs
19. Duke University 5%
Duke......actually its not a bad institution, I would just have to hate you for life for going there on the principle fact that its Duke :lol: :evil:
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Dec 7 2010, 11:42 PM
Lansdallius
Dec 7 2010, 11:37 PM
What's so bad about California, exactly?
Have you been here?
No, that's why I asked.
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Dec 8 2010, 01:14 AM
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Dec 7 2010, 11:42 PM
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Dec 7 2010, 11:37 PM
What's so bad about California, exactly?
Have you been here?
No, that's why I asked.
Find where you want to be. I would think Geo. Washington in St. Louis would be a good (but expensive) choice. Apply for every scholarship you can. If you must stay in state, get to something Northern, where the nut cases, hippies, wackos and Jerry Brown voters are a little less obvious. Take the 10K your parents will give you and get the rest through grants, loans, scholarships, etc!

Or, go to a school where the out-of-state tuition isn't too bad - North Dakota, Texas. Your undergrad degree won't matter that much anyway if you go on for an advanced degree in Int'l Relations - get a poly sci undergrad degree which you can get anywhere! Contact Hillsdale Uni. in Hillsdale Mich. They often provide money for promising students - they will not accept federal money or even allow students to use Pell Grants, but they will pay for those themselves to off-set the federal money. They are also the most conservative school in the U.S.
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It's not really bad, I truly just want to be far away from my family. The North is far more liberal and ridden with hippies than where I live, pretty much the most conservative area in California.

I'm looking though, just going to take some time.
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Haha, vie for some independence and look into MA. If you don't mind liberal attitudes you could shoot for Amherst or whatever. Otherwise, maybe upstate NY, with Ithaca and Cornell.

Man. Being a senior's kinda cool, kinda lame. I have no idea what I'm doing six months from now, but I don't really want it to be in Vermont. Fitchburg, MA is my current target. Decently close to a bunch of things, and it's cheaper than Boston.
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Dec 9 2010, 12:05 AM
Went to USD today with Tou. Made me hate high school even more. I can't wait to leave this failure of an education system.
I guess it is akin to being released from prison, at least that is what my students tell me.

U - what the freak is in Fitchburg, MA??
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My high school education was quite good. I didn't always like being there, but looking back and knowing a bit about others' experiences allows me to appreciate it better.
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Even time in a cage can be enjoyable if you have the right mindset. And goddess knows schools are jails.
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I highly recommend the Elliot School at George Washington University in DC. B)

Getting both my BAs out of there. Doing law school here most likely.

My high school GPA was ~3.0 and my SAT was 2400. Got into Georgetown, and did a year there, but hated it. Full of young rich sobs. So is GWU, but they're not quite old aristocratic rich and more my mom and dad are lawyers rich.

Also: Don't work. Get loans. Get a night job, like I did. Don't put off school.
Edited by Union, Dec 9 2010, 11:24 AM.
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Dec 9 2010, 11:21 AM
I highly recommend the Elliot School at George Washington University in DC. B)

Getting both my BAs out of there. Doing law school here most likely.

My high school GPA was ~3.0 and my SAT was 2400. Got into Georgetown, and did a year there, but hated it. Full of young rich sobs. So is GWU, but they're not quite old aristocratic rich and more my mom and dad are lawyers rich.

Also: Don't work. Get loans. Get a night job, like I did. Don't put off school.
Wait, I thought you went to GW in St. Louis?? Who was that then????
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Dec 9 2010, 11:51 AM
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Dec 9 2010, 11:21 AM
I highly recommend the Elliot School at George Washington University in DC. B)

Getting both my BAs out of there. Doing law school here most likely.

My high school GPA was ~3.0 and my SAT was 2400. Got into Georgetown, and did a year there, but hated it. Full of young rich sobs. So is GWU, but they're not quite old aristocratic rich and more my mom and dad are lawyers rich.

Also: Don't work. Get loans. Get a night job, like I did. Don't put off school.
Wait, I thought you went to GW in St. Louis?? Who was that then????
I went to Washington University in St. Louis for Law, so you are probably thinking of me. :)
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