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College Educations, Part II; Now with less sketchiness
Topic Started: Jun 2 2010, 11:24 PM (5,452 Views)
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Pick two and write an essay:

FOR THOSE WHO LOVE THE PHILOSOPHY OF AMBIGUITY, AS WELL AS THE IDIOSYNCRASIES OF ENGLISH:

1. DON'T SWEAT THE PETTY THINGS AND DON'T PET THE SWEATY THINGS.

2. ONE TEQUILA, TWO TEQUILA, THREE TEQUILA, FLOOR.

3. ATHEISM IS A NON-PROPHET ORGANIZATION.

4. THE MAIN REASON THAT SANTA IS SO JOLLY IS BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHERE ALL THE BAD GIRLS LIVE.

5. I WENT TO A BOOKSTORE AND ASKED THE SALESWOMAN, "WHERE'S THE SELF- HELP SECTION?" SHE SAID IF SHE TOLD ME, IT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE.

6. WHAT IF THERE WERE NO HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS?

7. IF A DEAF CHILD SIGNS SWEAR WORDS, DOES HIS MOTHER WASH HIS HANDS WITH SOAP?

8. IF SOMEONE WITH MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES THREATENS TO KILL HIMSELF, IS IT CONSIDERED A HOSTAGE SITUATION?

9. IS THERE ANOTHER WORD FOR SYNONYM?

10. WHERE DO FOREST RANGERS GO TO "GET AWAY FROM IT ALL?"

11. WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU SEE AN ENDANGERED ANIMAL EATING AN ENDANGERED PLANT?

12. IF A PARSLEY FARMER IS SUED, CAN THEY GARNISH HIS WAGES?

13. WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?

14. WHY DO THEY LOCK GAS STATION BATHROOMS? ARE THEY AFRAID SOMEONE WILL CLEAN THEM?

15. IF A TURTLE DOESN'T HAVE A SHELL, IS HE HOMELESS OR NAKED?

16. CAN VEGETARIANS EAT ANIMAL CRACKERS?

17. IF THE POLICE ARREST A MIME, DO THEY TELL HIM HE HAS THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT?

18. WHY DO THEY PUT BRAILLE ON THE DRIVE-THROUGH BANK MACHINES?

19. HOW DO THEY GET DEER TO CROSS THE ROAD ONLY AT THOSE YELLOW ROAD SIGNS?

20. WHAT WAS THE BEST THING BEFORE SLICED BREAD?

21. ONE NICE THING ABOUT EGOTISTS: THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.

22. DOES THE LITTLE MERMAID WEAR AN ALGAEBRA?

23. DO INFANTS ENJOY INFANCY AS MUCH AS ADULTS ENJOY ADULTERY?

24. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A CIVIL WAR?

25. IF ONE SYNCHRONIZED SWIMMER DROWNS, DO THE REST DROWN TOO?

26. IF YOU ATE BOTH PASTA AND ANTIPASTO, WOULD YOU STILL BE HUNGRY?

27. IF YOU TRY TO FAIL, AND SUCCEED, WHICH HAVE YOU DONE?

28. WHOSE CRUEL IDEA WAS IT FOR THE WORD 'LISP' TO HAVE 'S' IN IT?

29. WHY ARE HEMORRHOIDS CALLED "HEMORRHOIDS" INSTEAD OF "ASSTEROIDS"?

30. WHY IS IT CALLED TOURIST SEASON IF WE CAN'T SHOOT AT THEM?

31. WHY IS THERE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON SOUR CREAM?

32. IF YOU SPIN AN ORIENTAL PERSON IN A CIRCLE THREE TIMES, DO THEY BECOME DISORIENTED?

33. CAN AN ATHEIST GET INSURANCE AGAINST ACTS OF GOD!
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Jun 4 2010, 08:07 PM
I got a bj out of a chick who I let copy my final exam.
I'll keep that in mind for next year... :gnarkgnark:

So I'm hitting a mid-life crisis guys, and it's not manopause. Basically, I don't know what the fuck to do with my life.

I'll be entering a new year (or victory lap, as we call it in Canada) of high school next year, since I was held back in 2007 due to severe depression causing me to skip for months at a time. So I still have time to pick a university to go to, but I'll need to apply to them eventually, and that's coming up faster than it seems.

Now, since most of you won't know the major universities in Ontario, I'll simply complain talk about how I can't decide on a course. See, there're alot of things I'm not good at. I'm shitty at math, I can't understand science (well, at least physics), I'm not that great with music (mostly a lack of practice up until now), I;m horrible at multitasking, and I'm a chronic procrastinator, which means I generally have lower marks than I could have, even though in general people say I'm smart...

However, people say I'm a good writer (I wouldn't know, can't make that judgement), that I'm good with my hands, that I have good people and leadership skills when I'm not debilitated by anxiety (which sometimes happens), that I'm good with kids, that I'm extremely creative and that I have a knack for languages (I created my own based on the Romance languages, so no shit :P ). I'm also in shape and fairly athletic. I'd like to be able to travel the world, but not be forced to without my consent.

But knowing my strengths and weaknesses isn't helping with choosing what career I want to get into. I've been thinking of several though; being a police officer of some sort, getting into advertising, being a lawyer (no wai!), being a journalist, being a travel agent or tour guide, or getting into politics or international relations.

The problems with my favoured jobs:

Police - Tough, not all that great pay, somewhat of a risk of dying.
Advertising - Too many people do it, so not many jobs to go around. And the good pay only comes after you make it to the top.
Lawyer - You will be hated for the rest of your life (unless you're a prosecutor or judge).
Journalist - I dunno what's wrong with this, but there must be something.
Travel Agent/Tour Guide - Same as above.
Politics - Once again, you'll be hated for the rest of your life. Plus, power corrupts, and I KNOW it would corrupt me, despite my strong sense of justice.
Writer - Barely any pay unless you make it big. The torture of writer's block. More of a side job than anything.

So yeah. Basically, I want a job I actually enjoy that has a relatively good paycheck, and where I'm not sitting at a desk all the time.

That immediately crosses out these jobs:

Military - I want to stay in Toronto most of the time. The training is brutal. You'll probably die. You'll definately get sodomized, or at hazed.
Doctor - I'm ok with blood, but the years you have to put into getting a degree are fucking brutal. Plus I'm bad at science.
Teacher - Just no. I'd probably end up killing all the students.

Any opinions?



Edited by Hastine, Aug 6 2010, 04:44 PM.
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Aug 6 2010, 04:42 PM
Lawyer - You will be hated for the rest of your life (unless you're a prosecutor or judge).
Not really. Nobody hates their tax attorney, estate planner, corporate counsel, etc. In general, most people like their lawyer just fine, and hate the other guy's lawyer. Really, you can avoid most of the hate if you don't go into family law...
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Politics - Once again, you'll be hated for the rest of your life. Plus, power corrupts, and I KNOW it would corrupt me, despite my strong sense of justice.

If you let your strong sense of justice ring true, but you're corrupt, wouldn't that put you in a position to work above and superior to the law? Seems to me you could knock quite a bit of red tape out of your way just by being chaotic good.
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I am so sick of hearing "power corrupts". Just because it is a famous quote does not make it true.

Power merely frees people to be who they really are (you might remember Nag saying that). Power only allows corrupt people to show their corrupt excesses. If anything the phrase should be turned around to be correct.

People corrupt power.

Were I given absolute power, I would have the human decency to restrain myself from temptation. If anything, power would make it easier for me to deal with my temptations, because it would allow me the resources to deal with them better. One who sincerely seeks to rid themselves of corruption will do so.
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If you were given absolute power, wouldn't that give you the power to just free yourself from temptations, and obliterate the idea of temptation?

Even with absolute power, I'd personally prefer to give in to temptation to the most terrible excesses only to see the bad sides, then work to remove myself from it. It's impossible to know temptation without knowing temptation.
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That defeats the point of fighting temptation. You don't need to give into temptation to know it. All of us know temptation because we are all tempted.

If I had absolute power, and this is only in the worldly sense of absolute power, I could only continue resist temptation being human. And a human, it would hardly be within my power to obliterate the idea of temptation, because then I'd just be lying to myself, for the temptation would still exist. My point was, given absolute power, I could more easily deal with temptation. And while it would make it possible for me to indulge myself entirely, I would not, because I am above such things. Every human should be.

It's funny. Our humanity provides us with both the fault of temptation and yet also the will to overcome temptation. It is human to hate, and yet it is human to love. It is human to have fault, and yet it is human to overcome fault.
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Yeah, human's have a lot of potential alright.

I also see temptation as a way of seeing that potential.

EDIT: Fuck grammar.
Edited by Ulgania, Aug 6 2010, 11:47 PM.
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I am so sick of hearing "power corrupts". Just because it is a famous quote does not make it true.

Power merely frees people to be who they really are (you might remember Nag saying that). Power only allows corrupt people to show their corrupt excesses. If anything the phrase should be turned around to be correct.

People corrupt power.

Were I given absolute power, I would have the human decency to restrain myself from temptation. If anything, power would make it easier for me to deal with my temptations, because it would allow me the resources to deal with them better. One who sincerely seeks to rid themselves of corruption will do so.
I think the truths that no man truly knows (all of) himself and that the average human is capable of great evil go hand in hand with Nag's assertion that power simply allows people to be who they really are. I don't trust any person with absolute power, including myself. Of course I think that I wouldn't abuse absolute power, but I wouldn't stake scores and scores of other people's lives and/or the future of the human race on it, and I believe any man who would is the most dangerous kind of fool.
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Yeah, human's have a lot of potential alright.

I also see temptation as a way of seeing that potential.


But we build ourselves by overcoming temptation, not by giving into it. Indulging yourself only digs you deeper into that indulgence rather than overcoming the temptation to indulge. Perhaps you will better understand the temptation, but you will be less likely to resist it than if you have never indulged it.

I only have problems with temptations I have indulged in before. I have been tempted to kill, but I have never done so. If I had, less thought would be given the next time I did, and it would be less taxing on my morality when I did. But since I never have, it is one of the easiest temptation to brush off, as if it were a fly.

Had I never been exposed to sexual content as a child, my sex drive would be that much lower.

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I think the truths that no man truly knows (all of) himself and that the average human is capable of great evil go hand in hand with Nag's assertion that power simply allows people to be who they really are. I don't trust any person with absolute power, including myself. Of course I think that I wouldn't abuse absolute power, but I wouldn't stake scores and scores of other people's lives and/or the future of the human race on it, and I believe any man who would is the most dangerous kind of fool.


Ah, but I am not the average human. Resistance against evil and corruption is the purpose of my existence. I make it a point of my life to route out my flaws and improve myself, but I ensure this does not go to extremes by tempering it with mercy, love, and goodness. Someone has to step up to lead the people, and I believe it was Nag who said it is precisely because I am afraid what I might do with power that I must lead, for it is because I worry that I will resist such evils.

Believe me, I know evil well. I know what I am capable of. But that evil is not me, for I reject it. When I lead, I will do so to the best of my ability in order to make things better for as many people as I can. It would be no different were I in absolute power. If I am wrong, then God help us all.
Edited by Sedulius, Aug 7 2010, 12:24 AM.
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Aug 6 2010, 04:42 PM
Travel Agent/Tour Guide - Same as above.
Travelocity, Orbitz, Expedia, et all have made this a very un-promising field.
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Perhaps more worrisome than corrupt people attaining absolute power are severely incompetent people attaining absolute power. I have not read ideas or theories proferred by our OT's would-be absolute dictators that suggest a golden age of competence is nigh, with the possible exception of Nag, whose ideas are sufficiently slippery that either unparalleled genius or all-annihilating insanity could be read into them.
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Why do all posts become about Sed?

That said,

Journalism - dying art form. Low pay. Journalists are now a dime a dozen.

What do you enjoy? You mentioned what you are not good at, and just glossed over what you are good at, but what dfo you really enjoy? Maybe you'd like to fly. Get a pilot's liscense - it's cheaper than most universities. Don't think you have to go to a liberal arts college.
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Yeah, human's have a lot of potential alright.

I also see temptation as a way of seeing that potential.


But we build ourselves by overcoming temptation, not by giving into it. Indulging yourself only digs you deeper into that indulgence rather than overcoming the temptation to indulge. Perhaps you will better understand the temptation, but you will be less likely to resist it than if you have never indulged it.

I only have problems with temptations I have indulged in before. I have been tempted to kill, but I have never done so. If I had, less thought would be given the next time I did, and it would be less taxing on my morality when I did. But since I never have, it is one of the easiest temptation to brush off, as if it were a fly.

Had I never been exposed to sexual content as a child, my sex drive would be that much lower.
So the temptation to fight temptation is a good temptation but the temptation to have hott makeouts and sex is a bad temptation?

EDIT:

NH, it's because he's actually quite good at creating a discussion without gratuitous trolling.
Edited by Ulgania, Aug 7 2010, 06:20 PM.
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Yeah, human's have a lot of potential alright.

I also see temptation as a way of seeing that potential.


But we build ourselves by overcoming temptation, not by giving into it. Indulging yourself only digs you deeper into that indulgence rather than overcoming the temptation to indulge. Perhaps you will better understand the temptation, but you will be less likely to resist it than if you have never indulged it.

I only have problems with temptations I have indulged in before. I have been tempted to kill, but I have never done so. If I had, less thought would be given the next time I did, and it would be less taxing on my morality when I did. But since I never have, it is one of the easiest temptation to brush off, as if it were a fly.

Had I never been exposed to sexual content as a child, my sex drive would be that much lower.
So the temptation to fight temptation is a good temptation but the temptation to have hott makeouts and sex is a bad temptation?

EDIT:

NH, it's because he's actually quite good at creating a discussion without gratuitous trolling.
Fighting temptation is not a temptation itself because people are not tempted to do so. I fight temptations for many reason, partially out of a sense of duty, partially out of self-improvement, etc. I don't want to go into too much detail over that one.

The temptations to fornicate or masturbate are bad temptations. Fornication (sex outside of marriage) is bad because indulgence in it distracts us from more important things in life. Masturbation is no better: it essentially has the same effect, but worse, it is incapable of showing love or reproducing. Even Kant said we shouldn't masturbate, that as humans we should be above such an impulse.

My reasons for fighting the temptations are as philosophical as they are spiritual.

Now, that said, hot makeouts are only bad in that they tempt you to have sex. If you're married that's a good thing. I'm certainly not saying sex is bad. It is good. I'm only saying its misuse is.

The funny thing is we went from absolute power to sex.

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NH, I suppose the possible reason many discussions end up seeming to be about me is that I apply the situational value of the discussion to myself much of the time. I can't very well speak for another person, but rather only for myself.
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Sed, you're looking at masturbation all wrong. Sure, a lot of philosophers have said a lot of things in regards to the evils of masturbation (as well as some people 'in the know' claiming it makes your eyes fall out), but there's one aspect to it that's often ignored.

When masturbating without any form of external stimuli (porn of various genres, erotica, hanging out in a tree watching your neighbor shower, for example) you can enter a rather meditative state. Mankind has long used a monotonous task as a method of achieving a meditative states (various forms of martial arts, carpentry, contortion, humming, for example). Masturbation is no different. You can enter a more serene state and find an inner peace that feels good in the end.

tbh, I've made some of my most important life decisions in the course of masturbating.

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The funny thing is we went from absolute power to sex.
Some would argue there's a direct correlation.
Edited by Ulgania, Aug 8 2010, 04:49 PM.
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Aug 8 2010, 04:48 PM
Sed, you're looking at masturbation all wrong. Sure, a lot of philosophers have said a lot of things in regards to the evils of masturbation (as well as some people 'in the know' claiming it makes your eyes fall out), but there's one aspect to it that's often ignored.

When masturbating without any form of external stimuli (porn of various genres, erotica, hanging out in a tree watching your neighbor shower, for example) you can enter a rather meditative state. Mankind has long used a monotonous task as a method of achieving a meditative states (various forms of martial arts, carpentry, contortion, humming, for example). Masturbation is no different. You can enter a more serene state and find an inner peace that feels good in the end.

tbh, I've made some of my most important life decisions in the course of masturbating.

Sed
 
The funny thing is we went from absolute power to sex.
Some would argue there's a direct correlation.
Personally, I find masturbating someone else achieves a meditative state! Wait, did I say that? Never mind.

Yes, I agree with U.

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When masturbating without any form of external stimuli (porn of various genres, erotica, hanging out in a tree watching your neighbor shower, for example) you can enter a rather meditative state. Mankind has long used a monotonous task as a method of achieving a meditative states (various forms of martial arts, carpentry, contortion, humming, for example). Masturbation is no different. You can enter a more serene state and find an inner peace that feels good in the end.
No offense, but that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The point of meditation is to clear your mind of all things to reach a higher state of mind (enlightenment). Masturbation keeps you connected to the world, and hardly bring you to any sort of peace, and it honestly doesn't feel that good. It makes me feel weak and empty. When I go without it I feel strong and active. It is easier for me to reach some sort of enlightenment if I avoid sexual things altogether.

Higher philosophy lies not with this world but rather beyond it.
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What do you enjoy? You mentioned what you are not good at, and just glossed over what you are good at, but what dfo you really enjoy? Maybe you'd like to fly. Get a pilot's liscense - it's cheaper than most universities. Don't think you have to go to a liberal arts college.
I think I gave an equal amount of space in my post to my talents, but you guessed right that I generally don't see the things I'm good at, or at least I'm ashamed of them. For example, I love history, but as NRE mentioned a few pages back, what the hell can you get with a history degree besides being a teacher (which I don't want to do?). The things I'm good at just don't seem to translate into practical, financially-sound careers.

What I really enjoy? I enjoy people in general (as well as other cultures, due to the fact that I grew up in the extremely multicultural Toronto), anything that involves adventure, and working with my hands. These, of course, are just generalizations of what I like, but I think it describes what I enjoy overall. This actually might make my ideas of being a police officer practical, now that I think about, since I also have an extremely strong sense of justice.

Flying eh? Being a fighter pilot would be badass (although I wouldn't qualify because I had laser-eye surgery), and flying in general sounds fun, even if it wasn't a professional career. I don't think I'd enjoy being a commercial pilot though, just too much stress and too much math and calculations, haha.
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What I really enjoy? I enjoy people in general (as well as other cultures, due to the fact that I grew up in the extremely multicultural Toronto), anything that involves adventure, and working with my hands.
Anthropologist?
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For example, I love history, but as NRE mentioned a few pages back, what the hell can you get with a history degree besides being a teacher (which I don't want to do?). The things I'm good at just don't seem to translate into practical, financially-sound careers.
Damn did I say that, wow I feel like a jackass now :lol:

Scratch what I said, because it had to have been a day when I was in a ranting mood. :P History isn't as bad a degree to get as you would think. Sure the #1 thing that comes to mind is teaching (and don't always think High School when you think about teaching. A Master's can get you into college teaching which is something of a more laid-back atmosphere (NH correct me if I'm wrong) and I feel looks far more enjoyable than that of the High School atmosphere) but there is also other avenues to explore. A history degree also gives you great research and organizational skills which can lend themselves to a whole host of financially-sound jobs. A friend of mine graduated with nothing but a history degree and is working for a company who runs background checks for other companies.

I cannot stress enough that you study something you love. I have always been of the philosophy that you should do what you love, regardless of how many $$$$$ you'll see in your future. This may leave me a broke, penniless man when I die but so long as I die happy, who cares? I think the greatest injustice anyone can do to themselves is go to college with the sole purpose of getting a degree=$$$$$$$$$$.
Edited by NRE, Aug 8 2010, 09:40 PM.
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You can always pursue your side interests while working in an unrelated field - for example, police officer and writer.

For most people, the things they are good at do not translate into "financially-sound" careers so you're definitely not alone in that department. Actually the great majority of people are only good at being pure slackers/epicureans and are only moved to work by the carrot and stick of wages and unemployment. At least you have some worthwhile talents even if you think they are not renumerative per se. Why would you be "ashamed"?
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Aug 8 2010, 10:52 PM.
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I'm personally terrified of being a faceless employee at a faceless business, thus I'm opening a tea room. It's the most I can possibly derive from the world of economics
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I'm personally terrified of being a faceless employee at a faceless business, thus I'm opening a tea room. It's the most I can possibly derive from the world of economics
I'll definitely visit when that's up and running.
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The problem with that is that I don't know where yet. I have a small list of small cities in Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and New York running. The goal, so far, is to find a city that's between 35,000 and 50,000 people, with a university or two, with a generally relaxed attitude.

Once it's up and running I'll certainly entertain NSWR members with a discount :lol:
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