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OOC: Imperator Scottorum; Great Irish Civil War
Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM (7,383 Views)
Menhad
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Telosan
Apr 11 2010, 09:50 PM
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Apr 11 2010, 09:48 PM
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Apr 11 2010, 09:46 PM
Well its not a dreadnought in the historical sense of the word. But Sed has some fetish for EMP weapons, and he uses these as naval platforms
I thought you had to have permission for all players to use RAMT weapons.
Didn't we go through this already?
I just remember Sed talking about using EMP shells out of them.
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Sedulius
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TO is right, but EMP has to fit the situation. I'd cause an international incident if I decided to use EMP now. There's too many forces involved.

So, this is a no EMP war, essentially. I'm invading myself. :lol:

And I have posted.

EDIT: That said, on a technical note, there's a reason I use the term EMP shells. Basically, it's just a different type of ammunition I can use. It's not like the ships are only for such use. The main use of the dreadnoughts is ship to ship combat, which they excel at. They are great for AA (as good as any other ship), and okay for hunting submarines (hint hint: weakness). :lol: I should give them torpedo netting.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 11 2010, 09:57 PM.
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Eire backs up the Roman's navy?

This is going to be a nice naval war. HCC, TO, and mercenary fleets against Irish, Venetian, and English fleets reinforced by Porcuian aircraft.
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Not exactly. The Irish and Romans simply cooperate on certain operations. I need a Mediterranean fleet for such operations to be possible.

And you just reminded me I have yet to post any form of air operations by either of my sides. I shall edit it in.

EDIT: I shall do a few PMs, then I need to either get to bed, or get to work on a paper. I should probably hold off tomorrow.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 11 2010, 10:08 PM.
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Atticus, I didn't give you permission to invade the Shetlands. In fact, I expressly said they were aligned with Otto. You also can't just say you've had an insider in my territory. I have control over my histories.

I request that you change the post. Reasonably, you could reinforce the islands as they wouldn't have much defense against the Royal Navy. There wouldn't be a fight, rather you'd be welcomed with open arms as allies. That said, whenever the naval action between the North Fleet and the Teutonic fleet happens, you could help the Teutons in that engagement.

You'll all get to invade Ireland, you just have to be patient. I'm working on other more important RL things alongside this RP.
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Sedulius
Apr 11 2010, 11:34 PM
Atticus, I didn't give you permission to invade the Shetlands. In fact, I expressly said they were aligned with Otto. You also can't just say you've had an insider in my territory. I have control over my histories.

I request that you change the post. Reasonably, you could reinforce the islands as they wouldn't have much defense against the Royal Navy. There wouldn't be a fight, rather you'd be welcomed with open arms as allies. That said, whenever the naval action between the North Fleet and the Teutonic fleet happens, you could help the Teutons in that engagement.

You'll all get to invade Ireland, you just have to be patient. I'm working on other more important RL things alongside this RP.
My bad. Misunderstanding on my part.

Though I thought it would be good, seeing how Otto would most likely complain, and then we would meet, and talk it over and I would give my support if he gave me control of the Isles.
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I suppose Otto giving you control of the Shetlands for your support is completely reasonable. Just keep in mind it would be temporary. They'd need to be returned by the end of the war, which we could RP violently or nonviolently IC perfectly fine.


Also, I had a small RP in the Shetlands before you took control. So it could be assumed. Plus I made a post yesterday about something similar, though I stated that one had no significance.
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Where are a few good places held by William's forces and his allies that I could use to base my airforce out of? Ultilizing aircraft carriers is a fun idea but I'd like something a little more stable. I'll still be assisting allied naval forces, btw.
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Ulster. I don't have any specific place. Just say an air base in Ulster. Ulster has been the one place so far untouched by the war.
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I'm getting a relatively good idea of what to do for my next post. Mostly naval.

I'll PM who is concerned in it.

I'll be on the offense. I think the best way to handle this is for me to post my attacks, the players concerned to post losses and counterattack, and then for me to post losses and movement. In the naval combat, it's more important about what coastlines are controlled and who has the more favorable position. Losses can be small. Losing a few dreadnoughts here and there for me is very bad thing, considering the cost and manpower of such vessels. Utterly destroying the entirety of an enemy's fleets cripples their war effort. I'll be keen not to let that happen.


Landwise, William's allies will make gains, but that won't last for long.

EDIT: I forgot to put that I won't do this till later, though. I'm exhausted right now. I certainly won't be able to do a paper tonight, though, so I'll get the post out.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 13 2010, 06:43 PM.
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Since this is turning out to be a rather complex and many sided war, and since I really have nothing better to do, should I make a map for reference? I can update it based on everyone's posts and put it at the end of my own.
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Is this accurate? I'm a bit worried that some of the colors are too similar to tell apart.

EDIT: Removed map so it doesn't confuse anyone.
Edited by Telosan, Apr 13 2010, 10:17 PM.
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Sedulius
Apr 13 2010, 03:31 PM
Ulster. I don't have any specific place. Just say an air base in Ulster. Ulster has been the one place so far untouched by the war.
Wait, isn't Ulster in northern Ireland? Wouldn't I be trapped by forces loyal to Otto? Also Telo, I will be basing myself on land. I will still be around to assist during the naval battles though.
Edited by Porcu, Apr 13 2010, 10:10 PM.
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EDIT: Yes, Porcu, Ulster is in the North, which is controlled by William. Ulster has been the good guys the whole war.

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Telo, the map is completely incorrect. William is in the North (Red), Otto is in the South (Blue). Everything in light green is William's, everything in that darker green is Otto's.

There's no need for a complex map. There's only two sides.

My next post will greatly change the face of the map anyways. I'll make it much more specific to avoid confusion. I suppose I should also make a list of the factions.

That said, I'm extremely tired, it's been a long day, I haven't been getting any schoolwork done...

I need to go to sleep, get an early start tomorrow, and get some homework done. I'll try to make a post in the morning when I'm fresh. My only class is at 11 AM - 12:15 PM. I have lunch before 1:00 PM and workout at 2:00 PM. So, I'll be free after 3:00 PM, but I'm going to use my time to write a paper. It's going to be over Rome's war with Hannibal.

Sorry for the delays, guys.
Edited by Sedulius, Apr 13 2010, 10:13 PM.
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Thanks for the clear-up.

And no worries Sed. Finish your RL stuff first; this can wait.
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This then:

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And I'm doing it because I'm bored and like maps. That, and I'm so tired right now I can't sleep. Go figure. 30 minutes of sleep for 5 days and I can still function! :lol:
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I can put one thing up to clarify things.

I have an end in sight for the war.

I don't know how the war is going to go overall. Honestly, I think William's about to curbstomp Otto, only to be curbstomped by the Genesians.

But, seriously... logically would Russia and Rome tolerate a Genesian state being set up in Ireland headed by a self-proclaimed Emperor? I don't think so. If the Genesians win, a full scale Imperial joint invasion would logically follow.

Because of this, I'm actually debating whether the Genesians should initially win. It might be funner that way.

Whatever happens, things are going to drastically change in Ireland. And the consequences of this war might go quite a ways beyond Ireland.
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Telo, Mann and the Shetlands should be under Otto's control. Manx marines have already aided him, and I made Atticus go back on his post invading the Shetlands because of their alignment with Otto. If anything, the Teutonic Order would already be utilizing the Shetlands as a naval resupply base.
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What would happen to William? Would he be killed or flee, to be reinstated when his allies liberate Ireland?

Also, isn't it planned that Lans' England will fall eventually? Why not have it happen now, in this war? That would leave Ireland having to be liberated by a foreign force, probably a mix of Venetian, Russian, and Roman armies as they'd be the only surviving allies.

EDIT: To Sed's post: You said the northern fleet was intercepting the TO ships? Where would that be?
Edited by Telosan, Apr 13 2010, 10:23 PM.
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Telosan
Apr 13 2010, 10:22 PM
Also, isn't it planned that Lans' England will fall eventually? Why not have it happen now, in this war? That would leave Ireland having to be liberated by a foreign force, probably a mix of Venetian, Russian, and Roman armies as they'd be the only surviving allies.
*Ahem* :rolleyes: :lol:
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- with Porcuian air cover.
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Much better.
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Apr 13 2010, 10:22 PM
Also, isn't it planned that Lans' England will fall eventually?
Maybe eventually, but not yet. Don't get in such a rush. :P
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Yeah, Lans is going to be RPing England for quite a while longer.

Anyways, I'm ready to rock'n'roll for an hour. Post and PM time.
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Request of edit on Telo's post. Map and post are incorrect as far as fleet movement.

The Home Fleet is the fleet tending to the blockade of Ireland. The North and Atlantic Fleets are rather too large to all be squished in surrounding Ireland. The action between the North and Teutonic fleets would take much further north of Ireland, with the Irish fleet heading northeast. The action between the Atlantic and Commonwealth fleets would be taking place much further south, with the Atlantic fleet attacking from the west, from the Atlantic, sweeping upwards. I PMed you what will happen already.
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Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman

I'm going to let T.O get a post in before I post again. Other than that, seems things are going nicely with this little war.
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