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OOC: Imperator Scottorum; Great Irish Civil War
Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM (7,366 Views)
NRE
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OK I'll make a post but I want to make sure I'm understanding everyone else's posts before I just go rumbling through this. It seems that William's enemies are headed to Tara right? An this Tara is northwest of Dublin correct or am I mistaken..I may be because I can't seem to find just a "Tara, Ireland."

I'm basing the Russians in Ireland out of Nenagh, as it was the last real post I made with the Russians in Ireland. The Russians took the city, and had the rest of the army that landed in Ireland go to Nenagh to regroup with those Russian that had been flown in. I'll march from there to where the next great battle is to be fought, if no one objects.

Also, what's the naval theater like right now, around Ireland?
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Jun 23 2010, 01:46 PM
Also, what's the naval theater like right now, around Ireland?
Pretty much totally dominated by British, Scot-Welsh, and Mercenary troops. William's allies don't have much of a leg there.
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Jun 23 2010, 01:46 PM
OK I'll make a post but I want to make sure I'm understanding everyone else's posts before I just go rumbling through this. It seems that William's enemies are headed to Tara right? An this Tara is northwest of Dublin correct or am I mistaken..I may be because I can't seem to find just a "Tara, Ireland."

I'm basing the Russians in Ireland out of Nenagh, as it was the last real post I made with the Russians in Ireland. The Russians took the city, and had the rest of the army that landed in Ireland go to Nenagh to regroup with those Russian that had been flown in. I'll march from there to where the next great battle is to be fought, if no one objects.

Also, what's the naval theater like right now, around Ireland?
Yeah, Sed's practically the only one left, and we are currently engaging those as we speak. Plus Tara is currently under siege by the TO, British, and Welsh, all coming in from different directions.
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Jun 23 2010, 03:06 PM
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Jun 23 2010, 01:46 PM
OK I'll make a post but I want to make sure I'm understanding everyone else's posts before I just go rumbling through this. It seems that William's enemies are headed to Tara right? An this Tara is northwest of Dublin correct or am I mistaken..I may be because I can't seem to find just a "Tara, Ireland."

I'm basing the Russians in Ireland out of Nenagh, as it was the last real post I made with the Russians in Ireland. The Russians took the city, and had the rest of the army that landed in Ireland go to Nenagh to regroup with those Russian that had been flown in. I'll march from there to where the next great battle is to be fought, if no one objects.

Also, what's the naval theater like right now, around Ireland?
Yeah, Sed's practically the only one left, and we are currently engaging those as we speak. Plus Tara is currently under siege by the TO, British, and Welsh, all coming in from different directions.
I'm still there as well.
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Jun 23 2010, 03:27 PM
Atticus
Jun 23 2010, 03:06 PM
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Jun 23 2010, 01:46 PM
OK I'll make a post but I want to make sure I'm understanding everyone else's posts before I just go rumbling through this. It seems that William's enemies are headed to Tara right? An this Tara is northwest of Dublin correct or am I mistaken..I may be because I can't seem to find just a "Tara, Ireland."

I'm basing the Russians in Ireland out of Nenagh, as it was the last real post I made with the Russians in Ireland. The Russians took the city, and had the rest of the army that landed in Ireland go to Nenagh to regroup with those Russian that had been flown in. I'll march from there to where the next great battle is to be fought, if no one objects.

Also, what's the naval theater like right now, around Ireland?
Yeah, Sed's practically the only one left, and we are currently engaging those as we speak. Plus Tara is currently under siege by the TO, British, and Welsh, all coming in from different directions.
I'm still there as well.
True. My bad.
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Actually on second thought, I don't think it would be fair for me to RP now given that I've practically gone through the entire story mostly silent.
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I'm tired. I was on a road trip today.

Atticus, even though I hate you, the new Swiss flag is awesome. My tired self fears you, for you are Swiss, and Swiss are scary. They'll seize all your money and then assassinate you with it.

Meh, I don't really hate you. It just feels that way sometimes. I'm too angry of a person sometimes. We're probably both likable people in person.

As for war, I'm tired. I'm busy. I like pancakes. But not that much. I you get the chance to eat fresh Munster cheese, you should.

I've mostly stabilized at this point as far as spirituality. Who am I kidding? I'm old-fashioned, not modern.

Anyways, war. I'll PM TO when I PM TO. We'll talk overall strategy and then coordinate with everyone else. If it is okay with everyone, I'm appointing myself as allied team leader and TO as opposing team leader.

If you disagree, please say so. I know there are real reasons for me to not be team leader. Lans and Telo are the most active of my allies. If you guys want to move this along, I'm fine with one of them being team leader. However, it is essential that there is central, two-sided leadership to this, or it will never get done. Everyone must coordinate. Of course, if I am not team leader, since my country is the main battlefield, the team leader must coordinate fully with me.

KHAN!!!
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Jun 24 2010, 03:17 AM
I'm tired. I was on a road trip today.

Atticus, even though I hate you, the new Swiss flag is awesome. My tired self fears you, for you are Swiss, and Swiss are scary. They'll seize all your money and then assassinate you with it.

Meh, I don't really hate you. It just feels that way sometimes. I'm too angry of a person sometimes. We're probably both likable people in person.

As for war, I'm tired. I'm busy. I like pancakes. But not that much. I you get the chance to eat fresh Munster cheese, you should.

I've mostly stabilized at this point as far as spirituality. Who am I kidding? I'm old-fashioned, not modern.

Anyways, war. I'll PM TO when I PM TO. We'll talk overall strategy and then coordinate with everyone else. If it is okay with everyone, I'm appointing myself as allied team leader and TO as opposing team leader.

If you disagree, please say so. I know there are real reasons for me to not be team leader. Lans and Telo are the most active of my allies. If you guys want to move this along, I'm fine with one of them being team leader. However, it is essential that there is central, two-sided leadership to this, or it will never get done. Everyone must coordinate. Of course, if I am not team leader, since my country is the main battlefield, the team leader must coordinate fully with me.

KHAN!!!
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That was the most bipolar post I've ever seen.

Pssst, I'd be a better team leader, cause I am currently in control of the Union's, the British, ad the Welsh/Scottish. Plus I made that big plan.
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HA! Yes, it is quite bipolar, isn't it?

But consider it probably has to do with our past negative dealings with you, and my positive feelings towards the awesomeness of the Swiss.

It also comes with my honesty on how I feel, and my acknowledgment that it is wrong for me to hate.

And I'm tired.
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C'mon guys, this needs to move!
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I suppose I should send out some more PMs. I've discussed what needs to be done with TO and Toussaint.

Please, no more posts without coordination between each other.
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I have tried to set up a situation for it before, but no one would agree with it. There needs to be more cooperation in that area. I will say now that I'm unwilling to lose the entirety of my navy. That would be too unrealistic.

The Irish Royal Navy is entirely under William's jurisdiction, and will be withdrawn to the Mediterranean with his exile.

The Mediterranean Fleet is still in the Med. The Grand Fleet along with the remnants of the other fleets is deployed to the north and to the south of Ireland.

Everyone report their current positions so we can reach a consensus on the situation.
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My navy is currently nursing its wounds at their home ports.
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Telo's ships would not pass Gibraltar in their condition, as I have a fleet stationed there, and more conducting the blockade, a force capable of repelling it.
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Ok I've decided to finish what I started, a RP Russian involvement through to the end. Naval wise, I have a fleet in the Baltic that can engage the enemy and I have a fleet in the Med (from Barcelona) that could help Venice near Gibraltar if its necessary. My land forces were lasted RPed in Nenagh, so I'll start back up with them from there.
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I have several fleets based around Wight right now, keeping the island under de facto control and keeping anything out, and I also have multiple fleets patrolling the Irish sea, bombarding the eastern coast of Ireland. In addition, a couple fleets are patrolling north of Ireland. Most of this is done in conjunction with Welsh/Scottish fleets.
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The Mercenary Fleet is out in the Atlantic engaging the Irish.
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Sed, when the Irish fleets retreat to the Med, they're free to use Venetian ports.

Union, what's the possibility of a sudden breakout? There's a war to the north, so how many ships would you spare to block the strait, especially since the Empire is right there, and probably doesn't take kindly to such a crucial part of their empire being so threatened by the presence of a potentially hostile fleet?
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There are actually several fleets engaging the Irish, in fact we surrounded them.

Have you read any of the previous posts?
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Atticus, you can't just say you surrounded them without my approval. We're talking about massive fleets that can detect each other from extreme distances.

So, no Atticus, my fleet isn't surrounded. You aren't the one calling the shots, and that's not how wars on here work. There has to be a plan agreed upon by the players. Most of the time I ignore your posts because you make them without coordinating with me whatsoever.

Anyways guys, I'm tired and I'll be on the road to DC today. So, no guarantees as to activity.
Edited by Sedulius, Jun 29 2010, 10:52 AM.
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At the same time, you can't outmaneuver five fleets without any support in the area. You can't go south, as you will run into me eventually, you can't go East, as you will run into Britain and Wales, you can't go north without going around Ireland, and it, along with East, are limited by the fact that you don't want to allow us to simply surround and blockade the whole of Ireland because your fleet is somewhere off in the North Atlantic.

You will be surrounded, without allies, at some point. That allies can, at some later point, attempt to carve a path to your fleet through the surrounding ones and help you get to safety is another thing entirely, but the former is irrefutable.

Any fleets coming from the Medi have to break through a Union fleet. I have a small task force, about six ships, outside Gibraltar. 1/4 of my entire navy is still at port in the Union, and another 1/4 is on the blockade, while a 1/2 is up in Ireland. You'd still have to defeat half my fleet, while the Venetian fleet is at about 70% strength. I think i have a non-aggression with Sperry and England, so your only potential maritime ally is the Russian fleet at Barcelona, for breaking out the Medi, and the Russian fleet at home port which will have to through TO's waters and Britain's first. The fact that resistance exists at all avenues makes it incredibly likely that such fleets, even if they did eventually arrive, would arrive too late to turn the tide of battle, or too late to save your fleet in any real sense.

My recommendation. A stunning naval defeat for Ireland, as Russian forces arrive too late to help save the whole Irish fleet, but early enough to save some of it to go into exile with William. Ground forces, however, are capable of drawing into a stalemate. We accept the exile of William as a price for peace, boom bam war is done.
Edited by Union, Jun 29 2010, 11:30 AM.
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Jun 29 2010, 10:52 AM
Atticus, you can't just say you surrounded them without my approval. We're talking about massive fleets that can detect each other from extreme distances.

So, no Atticus, my fleet isn't surrounded. You aren't the one calling the shots, and that's not how wars on here work. There has to be a plan agreed upon by the players. Most of the time I ignore your posts because you make them without coordinating with me whatsoever.

Anyways guys, I'm tired and I'll be on the road to DC today. So, no guarantees as to activity.
Sed, you haven't even been active, and you have never made any attempts to coordinate any plans with me.

And seriously, not everything has to be planned that precisely. That takes the fun right out of it.

Also, we just want an end to this war.


And Tara is also surrounded.
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Jun 29 2010, 11:29 AM
My recommendation. A stunning naval defeat for Ireland, as Russian forces arrive too late to help save the whole Irish fleet, but early enough to save some of it to go into exile with William. Ground forces, however, are capable of drawing into a stalemate. We accept the exile of William as a price for peace, boom bam war is done.
How about a combined Russian-Roman-Venetian fleet breaking out of the Med, rushing north to Ireland, picking up William, and rushing back home with the remnants of the Irish fleet?
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I'd like to know about this exile.
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Union, I forgot to send my PM to you that I sent everyone else, so your hostility is understood. There is a plan to complete this RP with coordination and cooperation between all players. That said, if you don`t want to cooperate, then I want you out. I`ve given more than reasonable terms. I`m losing my entire country for a time. I will send you that PM at the soonest opportunity. I`m on my phone on the road to DC right now, so understand if it takes a while.
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