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OOC: Imperator Scottorum; Great Irish Civil War
Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM (7,367 Views)
Aelius
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I would assume under a white flagged boat. These are civilian non-combatants after all. And I believe you said that British forces would not occupy Wight.
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Jun 17 2010, 02:40 PM
I would assume under a white flagged boat. These are civilian non-combatants after all. And I believe you said that British forces would not occupy Wight.
No, they would not. However, the sea would be absolutely loaded with a fleet I have not moved yet.
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Aelius
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Well, you could allow them passage, if you viewed them as a non-threat. Or I could retcon the engineers to wait until you moved.
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Sedulius
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At the very end, I obviously need victory in some form to not be occupied by foreign forces. That doesn't mean, however, that the current administration cannot be defeated. I could lose the conventional war but drive the foreigners out with guerrilla tactics by an old paramilitary group that has knack at freeing Ireland against overwhelming odds.

The opponents want William in exile? Done, though I would like there to be a possibility for him to win in the post-war election (all you guys have to do is not vote for him if you don't want him). Though honestly the greater threat is the O'Neill (who did kill Otto against William's orders, after all).

I'm also willing to let TO have the destruction he wants to a point. I think this will be more satisfying to you TO. I don't want you to destroy monuments or cities. Ireland needs to still be Ireland after this is over. But what you can do is take those fortresses and destroy the Order of Saint Patrick, thus achieving a great objective. Of course, I won't let it be easy, but you gain destruction of a major opponent in the end. That said, the Knights of the Red Hand, essentially the retainers of the High King, will remain alive and well after the war. They are secular, and have no reason to oppose you so long as you are not against the High King (so right now they are a problem for you, but in the future they will have no reason to fight you). You have my word that I will be fair in said operations. We should cooperate through PMs, as you are the main opponent for the time being. I recognize the British have the potential to become a greater threat.

Atticus, I wrote my response as a matter of convenience. Cornish forces would have by my timeline breached the castle and obtained the rebel leaders well before you even began your incursion of Dublin. I don't see anything conflicting with this. It simply was not written. Being that I have jurisdiction over what happens to Dublin as it is my city, I say the Cornish forces breached first, and your forces breached later. It's my call not yours.

Now, I hate to bring up another issue with you Atticus, but I have heard from Lans that are still RPing as if you are that supernation you once had. If we had entered a conventional war with each other, I would have refused to RP with you if you insisted on doing this. Now that this is a conventional war, the same goes for now. You can RP your role in this war and still do the same amount of damage at the strength of your current nation. You don't need the artificial strength. I set this hard condition now. You may no longer RP as if you have that artificial strength. If you refuse to abide this condition, then I will refuse to RP with you, which more or less makes it impossible for you to stay in the war. You may say my condition is unfair, but I only set it because what you are doing is unfair to myself and my allied players, hence I will not abide it. You will gain Mann and the Shetlands if you cooperate.

Toussaint, I have yet to hear from you. I suppose I should PM you and we'll talk out what we want to do with this.

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These things said, I can't forget my allies. It is absolutely essential that they are not sidelined. It would be completely unreasonable for them to be crushed, especially the Spetsnaz. They should get something they want out of this as well. Compromises have to be made. Allies, please lay out what you wish.

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I am sorry for my hasty decisions on certain things, particularly the murder of King Otto. But what's done is done. Consider while the Genesians have not gained an ally, they will have crippled Ireland to such a point that it will not be a threat to them for quite some time, if ever again. I don't intend to continue any involvement with the Catholicisms of this game world. Ireland is Roman Catholic (Irish Catholic if you want to call it that) - end of story.
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Menhad
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Works for me.

EDIT: I though Atticus wasn't going to play as Wales anymore, so why would he want the Shetlands?
Edited by Menhad, Jun 17 2010, 03:12 PM.
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Sedulius
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If that's the case, then the islands should go to the Brits, perhaps later to Lans' Vikings
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Telosan
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I've already said what Venice wants out of this. OOCly, maybe a little territory grab while Genesians forces are distracted? Perhaps the Doge could convince enough people that Naples is too bit a threat to ignore now and try to capture it while the TO fights in Ireland?

I know its a long shot. Mostly just thinking out loud.
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We'd fire missiles on Venice.
Edited by Union, Jun 17 2010, 09:29 PM.
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Jun 17 2010, 09:29 PM
We'd fire missiles on Venice.
Totally expected. Venice, the city or the country? The city is almost impenetrable by air. The amount of AA and anti-missile guns in the area would turn the sky black with flak shells, much like the ancient clouds of arrows blotting out the sun. The entire lagoon is ringed with these weapons and the ships in the lagoon are all armed with an AA gun or anti-missile gun.

This is both before and after the TO's little surprise on the Basilica's roof. It was there before, but the TO's supergun allowed it to get past, which called for an increase in the lagoon's aerial defense.

I don't want the history in Venice destroyed, but I don't want it to be a limiting factor in my RPs, since it can easily be taken advantage of by threatening to hit the old buildings. This was the only idea I had that would allow me to continue RPing without worrying too much about the destruction of Venice.
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Union
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Honestly, I'd just hold off on the expansion until later, to end this as quick as possible.
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Jun 17 2010, 09:53 PM
Honestly, I'd just hold off on the expansion until later, to end this as quick as possible.
Just thinking aloud.

I don't think NRE would let me expand anyway. I've already got a land trade in the works as well as another expansion being RPed at the moment.
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I'm only partially committed in Ireland.... I could beat both of you guys (Ireland and Venice), at the same time. It would be close, but I could do it.
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Holy crap Telo, haven't you expanded enough yet?
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Toussaint
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Britain'd likely hit at you somewhere too.
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I don't want fighting in Italy... on either side.

Also, am I still wanted here or not? I'm busy enough in RL that I have no idea what is going on this RP at any given time.
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Jun 18 2010, 02:12 PM
I don't want fighting in Italy... on either side.

Also, am I still wanted here or not? I'm busy enough in RL that I have no idea what is going on this RP at any given time.
Why wouldn't you be allowed? If you feel like jumping in, we'll just brief you.

If you decided to jump in now, that'd be great, considering the Union just chased the Venetian fleet into the western Med, which is your territory.
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Vesp, there's no Venetian fleet in the Channel. I had a few wings of aircraft there, but I'm assuming the survivors fled to Venice when the Sperian fleet retreated, which it was already RPed to have done.
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I know, I'm just RPing the story of it to give this RP more depth, instead of jsut saying that I "got out of there somehow". I know it happened ages ago.

And Tous, there's really no point in chasing me down, since I'm leaving the war anyways in agreement with Atticus.
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Jun 18 2010, 02:19 PM
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I don't want fighting in Italy... on either side.

Also, am I still wanted here or not? I'm busy enough in RL that I have no idea what is going on this RP at any given time.
Why wouldn't you be allowed? If you feel like jumping in, we'll just brief you.

If you decided to jump in now, that'd be great, considering the Union just chased the Venetian fleet into the western Med, which is your territory.
I didn't ask whether I was allowed. I asked whether I was wanted. If you or Sed really expect me to be here, I don't want to let either of you down. On the other hand, I just don't care that much about NS right now, since RL is enough to focus on. I had gotten the impression that people were trying to figure out how to end this, so I was asking whether I was still wanted since maybe those plans to end it don't require me.
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Jun 18 2010, 07:36 PM
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Jun 18 2010, 02:19 PM
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I don't want fighting in Italy... on either side.

Also, am I still wanted here or not? I'm busy enough in RL that I have no idea what is going on this RP at any given time.
Why wouldn't you be allowed? If you feel like jumping in, we'll just brief you.

If you decided to jump in now, that'd be great, considering the Union just chased the Venetian fleet into the western Med, which is your territory.
I didn't ask whether I was allowed. I asked whether I was wanted. If you or Sed really expect me to be here, I don't want to let either of you down. On the other hand, I just don't care that much about NS right now, since RL is enough to focus on. I had gotten the impression that people were trying to figure out how to end this, so I was asking whether I was still wanted since maybe those plans to end it don't require me.
It should be winding down now. Ireland is united against the Genesian threat that has taken the eastern half of Eire. It's allies are on the back foot or currently busy with more pressing matters of their own. Venice is unable to assist much further because of the fleet's retreat.

I don't know what Sed has planned, but I figure some kind of agreement will be worked out between the TO and Ireland, following which the TO convinces it's allies to go home. Hopefully my knights can see some action before this.

If you want to do something, helping keep my fleet from utter destruction and the province of Valencia from going up in flames would be nice. Both are well within your sphere of influence, so a Union aerial assault on allied territory a mere hundred miles or so away might be perceived as a threat to the Empire as well.
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I assuming my Russians are still somewhere in Ireland right :lol: You asked what the allies of wanted Sed and really Russia's only desires was to see Ireland become a little more absolute in terms of a monarchy or at the very least, see a stronger monarchy with more support created. I would like to say I fight TO's forces since that was the direction the Russians were heading when last I posted. I never intended to win that fight, just delay the overall advance if possible.

I know I've missed a lot so if its just unrealistic to get back into this story, I can just kinda fade out :phear:
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Jun 19 2010, 02:49 PM
I assuming my Russians are still somewhere in Ireland right :lol: You asked what the allies of wanted Sed and really Russia's only desires was to see Ireland become a little more absolute in terms of a monarchy or at the very least, see a stronger monarchy with more support created. I would like to say I fight TO's forces since that was the direction the Russians were heading when last I posted. I never intended to win that fight, just delay the overall advance if possible.

I know I've missed a lot so if its just unrealistic to get back into this story, I can just kinda fade out :phear:
Feel free to jump back in, we could use the help. ^^
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Alright guys, nothing bad so far, so far as I know. However, this is going to continue to be a disaster if we continue to post without more structured coordination between each other. Right now my internet is FAPed, so I won`t be active today. But tomorrow I`ll PM TO and maybe others to come up with structure to the current situation and for the overall war. I won`t leave anyone out.
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