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| OOC: Imperator Scottorum; Great Irish Civil War | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM (7,372 Views) | |
| Aelius | Jun 9 2010, 02:15 PM Post #351 |
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Just to make this noted, Republic forces will refuse to leave Ireland unless William (or someone of his line) continues to rule Ireland, as Ireland is an ally of the Republic and this is now an invasion by the TO, Wales and Britain. That said, however, if the foreign powers were to leave Ireland and the waters surrounding the British Isles, allowing things to return to the status quo, the Republic would also withdraw forces from Ireland. |
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 02:18 PM Post #352 |
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We wouldn't take France, or even go to war over it. We would try to separate it from you as conditions for peace in future wars, or help someone else who DOES try. To put it simply, Land, they don't have to consent if they're dead, and in the event Venice and Porcu both pull their support totally, you wouldn't have much a military choice. Indeed, regardless of how peace is restored, the Union will eventually get involved in Wales to restore their friends to sovereignty. Edited by Union, Jun 9 2010, 02:18 PM.
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 02:28 PM Post #353 |
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Telo, if you are going to refuse, can you tell me how are your forces divided between Ireland, Iberia, Southern France, pacifying Neo-Etrusca, and Venice itself? My government would have a rudimentary understanding of this through espionage anyway, but it would help me make a decision on how to divide my forces when the time comes between Pau, Valencia, Galicia, and Ireland. Edited by Union, Jun 9 2010, 02:29 PM.
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| Telosan | Jun 9 2010, 02:58 PM Post #354 |
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This takes place before my expansion, so Neo-Etrusca and Central Italy aren't a concern. All the fleets, minus the Adriatic Fleet, are fighting in the Irish Sea as one large armada, hence why I've been annoyed that my entire military is being tossed aside. The Adriatic Fleet is the smallest, but best maintained and outfitted. It patrols the Adriatic. My airforce and army would be divided between my territories percentage-wise. Galicia is roughly 40% of Venice, so 40% of the army and airforce defend it. There are few unconventional things, like the Order of Saint Mark, who are mostly in Ireland right now, and the Lagoon Fleet. The Lagoon Fleet doesn't count, officially, as part of the navy. It's a rather large collection of wooden galleys (modern ships are banned in the lagoon unless Venice is endangered) that ferry people around the lagoon, keep the peace, and serve like a coast guard. They're armed with 2 AA guns and a bow machine gun each. They'll probably do absolutely nothing, but they're cool, so whatever. :P |
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| Toussaint | Jun 9 2010, 05:10 PM Post #355 |
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Britain isn't invading any of your land. We're bombing the crap out of the Venetian-leased Wight, and probably doing a bitch to shipping to England- but we haven't laid a foot on your ground. |
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| Aelius | Jun 9 2010, 05:11 PM Post #356 |
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IC, Republic forces aren't leaving unless the TO, Wales and Britain are removed from Ireland, either by defeat or by negotiation. Retreat is only plausible as a last resort. IC, my nation is making attempts at negotiating a status quo end to the war, but if the Republic is weakened by this war, so be it. It would work out well for future RPs, anyway. EDIT:
I meant an invasion of Ireland, not of the Republic. I assumed that was implied. I know the TO hasn't invaded England, either. Edited by Aelius, Jun 9 2010, 05:14 PM.
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 05:15 PM Post #357 |
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Effectively, yes. We would actually prefer William not be leader of Ireland, which is why we're targeting Venice. Telo, what about Valencia? |
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| Telosan | Jun 9 2010, 05:25 PM Post #358 |
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Same applies. Percentages and such. 'Course, troops can move around as needed. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 9 2010, 05:33 PM Post #359 |
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Hey, currently Wales and Scotland is by far the most involved in this war. I would most certainly call it a major power in this case. Well, that's going to change soon, as our plans state. |
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 05:44 PM Post #360 |
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So you have 40% of your army in Galicia and 40% in Valencia? They can't teleport. They would either require your navy to travel or violate the neutral territory, both of which would have to be RPed, and influence my attack... And Att, you're a major participant certainly, but I was talking about overall strength and capabilities. Edited by Union, Jun 9 2010, 05:49 PM.
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| Telosan | Jun 9 2010, 05:55 PM Post #361 |
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Galicia is approx. 40% of Venice altogether. They get 40% of the army and air force. Valencia is about 5% or so, so 5% of the army and air force are stationed there. 20% for Francia and 45% for the home territory of Venice. |
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 06:20 PM Post #362 |
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OK. |
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| Aelius | Jun 9 2010, 07:36 PM Post #363 |
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I know, I was explaining the current state of affairs. And you did strike first. I intend to keep things according to plan. |
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 08:42 PM Post #364 |
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There seems to be a resurgent war on, with a few players involved, and mass PMing is out so: My idea: My navy heads north to counter your own. During that battle, a second fleet lands troops all along the Galician coast, and paratroopers drop into Wales. We can kinda ebb and flow from there. The end result can be a liberated Wales, a great weakening of Galicia (and outright independence for Valencia). From Galicia, I would like to occupy a tip around Ferrol, about a fifty square km. This can actually help create amnesty between me and Galicia to make Telo's plans with the region more realistic. In addition, some unequal treaty about limiting troop numbers in Galicia can be formed. On Ireland, I have no preference. Well, I think it'd be funny to leave it in civil war alone, but TO would go for the rest of it. I dunno how Porcu and Tou fit into this, either. I don't think they'd help me in Iberia, and don't expect them too, or even get involved beyond navy and air, but whatever. Thoughts? |
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| Deleted User | Jun 9 2010, 09:05 PM Post #365 |
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Sounds good. Though once you got to Wales, our forces will have completed the feint (we had withdrawn from the invasion of England for a short while and pulled back into our border, allowing the English to travel in so we could trap and destroy them) and you could help assist us in the invasion of England I guess. There's no real liberation necessary. Tou has both land and sea forces in Ireland and around the Irish sea, so they're pretty heavily involved. |
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| Union | Jun 9 2010, 09:22 PM Post #366 |
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I don't want to go into England, tbh. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 9 2010, 11:54 PM Post #367 |
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You don't have to, its all up to you. You can stop just short of the border if you want. |
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| Menhad | Jun 10 2010, 12:23 AM Post #368 |
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Pffff, your late to that party buddy. Anyway. My main goal is to defeat Ireland, although seeing Venice crushed would be nice. |
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| Telosan | Jun 10 2010, 02:57 PM Post #369 |
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Att, set it up for the Welsh commander to either accept or decline. If they accept, could you please mention the Venetian fleet leaving the Irish Sea, past the southern Welsh wing that is currently fighting the English? Huesca, do as you wish, just know that Venice will call assistance as need be, if there's still anyone left to call. Sed, need a response from whoever heads up the Knights of Saint Patrick. The OSM won't move without permission from the Irish, though they're already in Ireland. Menhad, if I have IC permission, the OSM will attempt to liberate the castle with the largest garrison of Irish knights. Please look over this page: http://serenisima.webs.com/theosm.htm The OSM are equipped with the high quality projectile proof armor originally manufactured by the Irish (or was is Syrians or something?) with a few cosmetic changes. The shield is covered with the same material that is used for the cockpit bubble of jets. The swords are made the old traditional way, but with more modern materials so that it's less likely to break on a hard hit. Higher ranking members of the Order may carry pistols, but usually don't use firearms, instead relying on their armor to let them close for melee. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 10 2010, 10:12 PM Post #370 |
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No Telo, we never agreed to this. You have no right to assume the Mercenaries would agree to something, nor do you have the right to take command of them and dictate their actions. Furthermore, two people have come forward offering to play as the mercenaries. If they want, then it shall be them who independently control the mercenaries. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 10 2010, 10:14 PM Post #371 |
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Hisperia, me and Telo aren't entering any peace talks/treaties. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jun 11 2010, 10:25 AM Post #372 |
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OOC: I am obligated by the terms of our treaty to guarantee the security of Venice from any aggressor. I think that means I could be declaring soon if Venice calls on me. Can anyone let me know who all is in the war and what I'd be getting myself into? (also, the stakes) |
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| Union | Jun 11 2010, 10:41 AM Post #373 |
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OOC: The Union is not the aggressor. The Venetians are in specific violation of the Concord of 2010, a condition of which is that violation gives the other power casus belli as a defender, and my involvement is limited to enforcing the Concord and aiding my Welsh ally. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jun 11 2010, 10:44 AM Post #374 |
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OOC: I see. Telo presented this to me as that my aid would be necessary to prevent Venice from destruction. Is that accurate? Or will this be limited to the blockade mentioned in your PM? |
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| Union | Jun 11 2010, 10:45 AM Post #375 |
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OOC: It is totally limited to the blockade. The Union government is trying to foster good will, particularly with Porcu, and going beyond what I described in the PM would undermine that effort. The only way I will escalate beyond that is if I am attacked by Venice outside of likely skirmishes (IE, a ground invasion of the Union, or bombing of my territory by Venetian aircraft)
Edited by Union, Jun 11 2010, 10:46 AM.
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