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OOC: Imperator Scottorum; Great Irish Civil War
Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM (7,375 Views)
Toussaint
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Hey, Py, what is the composition of the Helusian fleet?

EDIT: Nevermind. I found it in a later post.
Edited by Toussaint, May 16 2010, 09:57 PM.
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Aelius
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Att: PM me about what you want to do for the next phase of our conflicts.

Any member of the Lord's Alliance: Recruit the Black Ball. I want to tie up a loose end.
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Filo
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The emperor Philip could make some declaration in favor of William?
in IC mean.
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Sedulius
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Alright, post made. I'll make a map sometime today I suppose.

Flio, do as you wish. Right now the war is pretty equal, though decent advantage goes to the Teutonic Knights. If you actually choose to send any forces, note that you'd be fighting fellow Germans, though if the Emperor does anything in favor of William, it may make the Teutons think twice about their involvement in Ireland.

That said, I'm not going to let my knights be some pushover for more glory to the Teutonic Knights. To be fair, there should be a series of engagements between these knights, some won by my knights, some won by them. The Teutons will get the upper hand in the long run, but my knights will prove themselves at the very least their equals.
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The Emperor wishes not use force or other form of coercion and certainly does not want to go to war.
A diplomatic message could go well, He will recognize William as the only true king of Ireland
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Menhad
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The TO would like the HRE's support, but It matters little to them.

The Hochmeister was once considered a Prince of the HRE, and until that happens again they will not bow to or even care about the Emperor.

In short the TO has become it's own beast, only truly caring what the Pope thinks.
Edited by Menhad, May 17 2010, 09:53 AM.
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Ok i'll post something this evening or tommorow mornig
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Telosan
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Sed, I want to get my knights in as well. After the Irish and TO knights meet for the first time, I'll have mine join you.
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Just gave the topic a read-through, and I'm a little confused. Can I get (in just a couple sentences hopefully) a breakdown of the IC conflict?
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Porcu
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

My understanding is this:

1) William is alive while Otto is not; William maintains control of vast majority of Ireland
2) The Teutonic Order has broken through Allied (William) naval blockade and landed forces in Ireland
3) All these navies have confused me, so I've stopped paying attention to them

Where exactly did the T.O. land forces? If it's in the north near Ulster, I may have to relocate myself to the south. Then again, if the TO and Porcu finalize this non-aggression pact, I could stay up north and still be useful against the other belligerents fighting for Otto.
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I've pulled the HCC completely out as I don't really have the time (well actually a drive) to play more than one force and with Otto dead, the call of Pope is now dead.

The Pope will want to speak on this with the College of Cardinals given that certain issues have arisen this since war, but I'll start a new thread on this.
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Sedulius
May 17 2010, 07:16 AM
Alright, post made. I'll make a map sometime today I suppose.

Flio, do as you wish. Right now the war is pretty equal, though decent advantage goes to the Teutonic Knights. If you actually choose to send any forces, note that you'd be fighting fellow Germans, though if the Emperor does anything in favor of William, it may make the Teutons think twice about their involvement in Ireland.

That said, I'm not going to let my knights be some pushover for more glory to the Teutonic Knights. To be fair, there should be a series of engagements between these knights, some won by my knights, some won by them. The Teutons will get the upper hand in the long run, but my knights will prove themselves at the very least their equals.
Sed, what should I do about Dublin, just head right in?
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May 17 2010, 08:09 PM
I've pulled the HCC completely out as I don't really have the time (well actually a drive) to play more than one force and with Otto dead, the call of Pope is now dead.

The Pope will want to speak on this with the College of Cardinals given that certain issues have arisen this since war, but I'll start a new thread on this.
I'm sure his successor will be Genesian. We just need to wait until this successor is brought out.
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Sedulius
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Okay. Restating situation:

Naval warfare is happening in the Atlantic. Let's just leave it at that. Just do what you want as far as naval warfare.

Welsh/Scottish forces can breakthrough on the east coast whenever they want. I wouldn't recommend actually landing in Dublin, but rather landing by the besiegers and attacking them from behind, forcing them to withdraw.

Manx forces would be withdrawing from Dublin to take back the Isle of Mann. The King of Mann is technically the King of Dublin right now (historically based title).

Teutonic Order has the initiative, and can push whatever way they want. They will have resistance, but nothing they can't actually break through. Their toughest battles would be with Irish knights.

The war ends when the last enemy withdraws, or if the Teutonic Order and Welsh manage to subdue the Isle. But with the Russians on their way I don't see the latter happening.
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Sedulius
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Well, this seemed to pretty much die when I killed Otto off. Everybody ready to bring it to an end?
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May 22 2010, 10:14 PM
Well, this seemed to pretty much die when I killed Otto off. Everybody ready to bring it to an end?
There's still plenty that can be done and tons of things I still wanted to do. I can't post yet, though. I need a few responses to the last things I did.
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

I can do a few more things, but I need TO to finalize our negotiations in Stockholm.
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Sedulius
May 22 2010, 10:14 PM
Well, this seemed to pretty much die when I killed Otto off. Everybody ready to bring it to an end?
NO!

Don't kill it. I've been busy this week, and I'm the only one that has to respond. Sorry you guys had to wait on me.
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The HRE has did its statement to favor William
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Okay, cool. We'll keep it going then.
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May 23 2010, 08:53 AM
Okay, cool. We'll keep it going then.
By the way, do the Welsh/Scottish have the same permission to drive through when they land, or do you want me to fall short?
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Just try to keep a united front with the Teutons. Your breakthrough at Dublin will greatly aid your mutual cause and force my forces back.

I'd say your priority target is Tara, which, like the other two great fortresses, never fell. It may actually be best to circumvent it. You guys could possibly conquer most of Ireland whilst avoiding the fortresses. They do control large amounts of land, but with the rest of Ireland conquered, all you'd have to do is siege the fortresses to exhaustion. Of course, that buys time for your enemies.

Basically, take as much territory as your force can sustain. You want to spread my force thin, not your own. Heed the location of the fortresses. If you get close, you are more or less forced into a siege or forced to retreat a safe distance because of their artillery. The fortresses are Teamhair na Rí, Carraig Phádraig, and Grianán Ailigh. They're easy enough to find by Google, but I guess I should mark them on a map. Just remember the fortresses are fictional, the places are not. These are essentially modern "starforts", if you can call them that. I forget the exact design these days.
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NH, are you taking over for Kas? The Welsh and Venetians are both trying to recruit the nameless mercenaries that were hired by Otto, not the pirates that were under Welsh contract already.
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Jun 4 2010, 03:18 PM
NH, are you taking over for Kas? The Welsh and Venetians are both trying to recruit the nameless mercenaries that were hired by Otto, not the pirates that were under Welsh contract already.
Well, I figured I'd represent mercenaries in general! Who hired the pirates?? I'm getting confused!
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Jun 4 2010, 04:09 PM
Telosan
Jun 4 2010, 03:18 PM
NH, are you taking over for Kas? The Welsh and Venetians are both trying to recruit the nameless mercenaries that were hired by Otto, not the pirates that were under Welsh contract already.
Well, I figured I'd represent mercenaries in general! Who hired the pirates?? I'm getting confused!
Atticus hired the pirates. The Venetians have not come in contact with them and, as far as the Venetians are concerned, they are considered a Welsh fleet of unknown origin.

The mercs were the center of a huge debate that Kas, Atticus, and I were working out. Since Kas is gone, Atticus and I will have to work out another compromise.
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