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| OOC: Imperator Scottorum; Great Irish Civil War | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM (7,363 Views) | |
| Sedulius | Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM Post #1 |
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If anyone wants in on the RP, they are welcome to join. Right now I'm doing it solo with no plans with other players. Imperator Scottorum means Emperor of the Irish. It was a title given to Brian Boru, having united Ireland under his rule. I figured it was an appropriate title for Stiofan, and William if he succeeds. It also gives me a good opportunity to reform the Irish government. As to the terminology, Ireland was known as Scotia Major and Scotland as Scotia Minor in older days. Indeed, all the Scots are is the extension of the Irish kingdom Dal Raita combined with the Pictish people to form one people. They're all Gaels. They all spoke Old Irish, more commonly known as Gaelic. Modern-day Irish, Scottish, and Manx are merely developed from this Old Irish, and are all referred to as a form of Gaelic. In Latin, they are all Scotti, meaning Irish or Gaels. As to the war, it consists of the "old guard" on one side, being Ulster, the Church, the orders, and certain of the older lords, all following the High King; and then the majority of the lords on the other side under King Otto Ó Siadhail, a Genesian. The people tend to support the High King, while the lords tend to support King Otto. So, needless to say, the stakes are high, and anyone with interests is welcome to join. The outcome will result in someone becoming the Imperator Scottorum. Edited by Sedulius, Apr 4 2010, 04:58 PM.
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| Aelius | Apr 4 2010, 08:27 PM Post #2 |
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Should this be an LFN action? Where should the LFN choose to side with? |
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| Sedulius | Apr 4 2010, 09:14 PM Post #3 |
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That would be up to the respective LFN nations. General Quintus Vorenus would side with the High King. I'd think allies of Ireland would side with the High King, since Otto is more or less in open rebellion. |
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| Telosan | Apr 4 2010, 09:25 PM Post #4 |
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This is an interesting dilemma. Otto wants an oligarchy, William a republic. Venice is a republic, but the Doge is a monarch. The VMP isn't a fan of the democratic side of Venice... EDIT: And, yes, this should be an LFN issue. I'll have Nicolau call everyone. Edited by Telosan, Apr 4 2010, 09:26 PM.
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| Sedulius | Apr 5 2010, 01:19 AM Post #5 |
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More likely no matter who wins Ireland will become an autocratic state and Parliament will be dissolved permanently. William wants what is best for the Irish people, Otto wants to expand Irish power. Both have to become an autocrat in order to fully achieve their ends. That said, William will probably maintain democracy to an extent. Otto will likely go for full blown feudalism. More important to consider is that William is a Reformed Catholic, while Otto is a Genesian Catholic. If Otto wins it will have serious consequences. And if Otto gets enough support, he will win. |
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| Kasnyia | Apr 5 2010, 07:57 AM Post #6 |
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Bank would be happy to give financial banking to one or both sides. Alexanderhaven will assist against the Genesian-led faction in whatever way you need it to. |
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| Menhad | Apr 5 2010, 10:47 AM Post #7 |
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And the TO will do the exact opposite. |
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| Telosan | Apr 5 2010, 02:40 PM Post #8 |
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Venice and the TO get to square off again? :) |
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| Union | Apr 5 2010, 03:10 PM Post #9 |
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The Union will provide military expertise and training to the soldiers of Genesian Catholicism. We invite them to join us in peacekeeping in Pau, and gain valuable real-world training in a non-threatening environment. Training officers will also be sent north, to Ireland, as will defense strategists. :) |
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| Sedulius | Apr 5 2010, 06:11 PM Post #10 |
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Haha! Now that's what I'm talking about! Now we have a war! :D It's been a long time since I've had a full-blown war. Honestly, I think the old Sedulion-Ukabanea war was the last full war I was actually in. So, I really want this to go right, "by the book" if you will. You're all seasoned RPers. You know the rules. The rogue factor, however, is that since it's my nation, I'll have to decide the outcome of the RP. I don't really have anyone to agree with on that. So, this will have to be somewhat free form, with each side trying to outsmart the other. IC, I'll be sure to flesh out the entire situation, and from time to time update the progress of one side or the other. I'll be sure to give a signal in this thread when the war goes hot. I'll coordinate with PMs. |
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| Kasnyia | Apr 5 2010, 06:39 PM Post #11 |
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So long as the bank's offer doesn't get spit on (again), I'm good. |
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| Sedulius | Apr 6 2010, 11:44 AM Post #12 |
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You know me, Kas. I would never pull something like that. I suppose it would make sense for Otto to make a bank deal. I'll have him make a request when I'm ready. EDIT: On another note, I realized something ironic. English, Scottish, and Protestant residents of Ireland would most logically ally with the High King, being that Otto is a fanatic and a Genesian seeking to subdue about anything that isn't Irish or Catholic. The High King's policies have allowed these residents the freedom to live as they do. Otto would take that away. Just an interesting thought I had. It works out since they'd live mostly in Ulster anyways. Edited by Sedulius, Apr 6 2010, 11:48 AM.
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| Sedulius | Apr 6 2010, 04:39 PM Post #13 |
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War is hot. I suppose post IC reactions and offers, and then we'll see how the situation shapes up. |
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| Aelius | Apr 6 2010, 11:04 PM Post #14 |
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So, going to respond from anything my nation has sent? :P |
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| Kasnyia | Apr 6 2010, 11:22 PM Post #15 |
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Okay, NO. Sed, my reputation does NOT precede me, and there is no way in hell you could know I sent it to the others. The bank's SECRET activities are SECRET. I request that you edit your letter to just say no. The only reason that is the only thing you see me do with the bank is because the bank's regular business is too normal for me to NEED to RP. Change it please. |
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| Sedulius | Apr 6 2010, 11:29 PM Post #16 |
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Edited. Sorry for the inconvenience, Kas. |
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| Kasnyia | Apr 6 2010, 11:47 PM Post #17 |
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Thank you. |
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| Sedulius | Apr 7 2010, 04:30 PM Post #18 |
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For the next post I am making to be legitimate, I must clarify the layout of the Irish military. Whenever I last formed it, I cut its army and air force allowance down by half, while I doubled its navy. So, when I say the Royal Navy is not something to be trifled with, I really mean it. Think 32 aircraft carriers and the allowance that allows in each category of vessel, and you get the picture. However, keep in mind that with the army and air force not just already being reduced by half but also being a good amount under the control of Otto that the land warfare in Ireland will not be nearly as difficult for invaders as the naval warfare. Once one blockade is broken, say the blockade on Cork, then a steady flow of troops can make its way into Ireland. Just make sure to escort your transports well. My U-boats are out in force. :evil: EDIT: *facepalm* I wrote the majority of a damn good post, and then went to edit a map in paint, and when I clicked to save the file, my computer crashed. And of course, it is none other than the video card's fault. I have to take a rest, and I need to do homework. I'll still get around to a post today, but later on. Edited by Sedulius, Apr 7 2010, 05:23 PM.
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| Telosan | Apr 7 2010, 07:27 PM Post #19 |
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Please note, Venice is a maritime republic. Like Ireland, Venice's navy takes up most of the Venetian armed forces. I have not, nor ever intend to, specify any numbers as to the actual strength of the branches of the armed forces, but my navy takes up a greater portion of my military than Ireland's does. Which is necessary, considering the coastline of Venice and the distance between it's territories. I'd actually hope to have the Venetian navy be famous among Europeans for being the most, or one of the most, powerful navies in Europe. I'll most likely be setting a permeable blockade to keep out Genesian forces and occasionally bombard Otto's forces should they venture to close to the coast. I can't wait for the bank funded fleets. :evil: I hope to have the Knights of Saint Mark fight alongside those of Saint Patrick at some point, this being the first 'legitimate' military action of the Order. Since it hasn't been founded yet, but IC would've been by now, please do not let there be a quick conclusion to this war. |
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| Porcu | Apr 7 2010, 08:12 PM Post #20 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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IC-wise my prolonged battle against the terrorist network TIM is officially finished and I have offered a preliminary force to compliment William's forces. Since the seas will be packed, I figured I'd aid William with a competent and effective aerial force. Hopefully, I won't be left out of this conflict entirely. :lol: |
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| Telosan | Apr 7 2010, 08:25 PM Post #21 |
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Hmm. How about approaching Admiral Dandolo for permission to use the Venetian aircraft carriers as mobile bases? Though, if the ships were attacked by the TO, for example ( :rolleyes: ), would the Porcuians aid in the fight against them? I wouldn't want my carrier's decks filled with suddenly pacified pilots when an enemy fleet sailed over. |
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| NRE | Apr 7 2010, 08:34 PM Post #22 |
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You know if Porcu requested it, what with our recent treaty, the Confederate States of America could be dragged into this as well along with what I've already offered from Russia and South Africa. An since this is a civil war, it wouldn't be against the rules of the forum. I always find it interesting how these things work out. Edited by NRE, Apr 7 2010, 08:46 PM.
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| Sedulius | Apr 7 2010, 08:44 PM Post #23 |
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I'm being careful to not end the conflict early. This war is more for the forum than me. Things were too quiet. The post I had written and lost came close to looking like victory was near for William, so I had to twist it up. Now I'll have to add even more given the responses, but that's no problem. I like being able to finally write like this again. EDIT: Ah, one point of... whatever you call it. I'd rather not Ireland become entirely devastated by the war, so allies, keep bombardments to a minimum. This is a civil war, so the goal of either side would really to be to attempt to capture the country intact rather than devastated. That said, of course collateral damage can't be avoided altogether. I've already turned Meath into a warzone. Edited by Sedulius, Apr 7 2010, 08:48 PM.
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| Porcu | Apr 7 2010, 09:04 PM Post #24 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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I did not intend to try and drag you in, but if it's OK with Sed and you don't mind RPing three different forces then I can have Nixon call upon our alliance. :P You'll be pleased to hear that the Porcuian Wehrmacht, the airforce in particular, fights its conflicts with an absolute commitment to striking only high-value industrial and military targets. Besides, my forces would also serve a psychological purpose; just the sight or knowledge of enemy squadrons is terrifying. Edited by Porcu, Apr 7 2010, 09:07 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Apr 7 2010, 09:05 PM Post #25 |
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Meh. I hope the bank gets something out of this. So far this is looking to be too much of a curb-stomp to be worthwhile for a long running conflict. Got the bottom line to consider after all... |
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