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| Annessione di Francia; *After the Fall of France* | |
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| Telosan | Mar 16 2010, 02:40 PM Post #51 |
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The Venetian man was escorted to the Prince by two guards. Once there, he dropped to a low bow and spoke in Galician accented Spanish, "Greetings, sir. I'm afraid I'm not entirely sure of the local customs for meeting someone, so if you would please excuse me. I have been informed that you have the leader here, a prince no less. As such, I have a few things to discuss with you." "First and foremost, I must stress that Venice is not here to conquer or pillage. We are here to protect the people of the former French Republic, though I've discovered that many of the locals do not consider themselves French any longer. Venice is a democratic nation, though we listen to a monarch. We wish to protect the democracy-loving people of France, which has led the world in such affairs for some time. We have not attacked anyone, instead distributing supplies and medical assistance. It is our hope to integrate these people into the Venetian Republic and, with you being a prince, you would be granted the title of Duke, allowing you to keep you position as the leader of the region. I apologize for the long winded explanation, but I just wanted Venice's position to be clear. What say you?" |
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| Hastine | Mar 16 2010, 06:36 PM Post #52 |
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The Prince continued to sit in his chair, tasting the intriguing words that had just been said to him like a wine connoisseur savouring wine; except in this case, he spit them out as if it were rotten milk. "Venice, it seems, has become the imperial equivalent of a squiggee kid," he thought to himself in his head, with a slight grin on his face. Then his expression turned to a relatively calm one. "Sendais-tai, Sejnir," he said. It took the Galician a few seconds to comprehend what the Prince was saying, since he was speaking in Sperian, but finally understood and sat in a chair in front of the desk. "I'll speak in Spanish from now on, to make things easier. Although I'm disappointed that you don't know our language all that well, considering the situation," the Prince chuckled, while the Galician had a slight scowl of indignation. The Falcon leaned forward on his desk and finally got down to business. "Let me tell you a story," he began in a highly accented Spanish. "During the 1980s, Sperry was in what we like to call the Fourth Golden Age. Its economy was thriving and robust, it had one of the larger populations in Europe, and its popular culture, from music to fashion to movies, eminated throughout the region. "Sperry is the hip place to be!" many would say; others would fierce condemn it for being a moral wasteland. Whatever the case, the Golden Age didn't last forever." He took a breath, and continued. "People were starting to get angry with the youth culture, and Sperian society in general. They decried its hedonism, calling for a return to the Catholic, or in some cases, Protestant values, and the destruction of secularism. They despised the capitalist system that had, arguably, created a self-deprecating rat race in the nation. And most of all, they hated the standards that beauty had been raised to, with blue-eyed blonde bombshells and hunks being the main sex symbols among a nation where few people actually looked like that. They saw this hollow vanity as a return to the domination of the Germanic and Celtic tribes who raided and pillaged Sperry throughout the Dark Ages; to the constant wars with the Franks, who felt that just because Charlemagne had been annointed "Holy Roman Emperor" by a pope who was willing to bend over backwards and take it in the rear in return for protection from his enemies, that they had the right to try and take over Sperry, despite our even greater claim to the laurels of Rome. And this, in turn, is why we've had trouble with the French, and even more so because of the misnomer that we are French, which I hope that you refrain from using as we continue our discussion." The delegate nodded in slight agreement, though impatiently, "I will. But may we please get to the crux of this? I don't see how being blond and blue-eyed has anything to do with being a part of La Serenissima..." "It doesn't, you're right," the Prince replied. "But let me finish, despite my ramblings. Anyways, things reached the breaking point when the last Prime Minister of Sperry, Darei Velanoiva, and the government he ruled with were partly responsible for a large economic collapse that took place in Sperry, officially ending the Fourth Golden Age and plunging the country into something of a chaos. The nation was in an uproar, and Velanoiva and his government were overthrown in a semi-bloodless military coup lead by General Marei Tonsairi. He promised a great deal of change for the country, and changed things he did, though mostly for the worse; he eliminated our secular constitution and made Catholicism the only legal religion, turned the country into a military dictatorship, banned anyone from speaking a Germanic or Celtic language or any Sperian word that happened to be of those origins, threw my father off the throne, and drove him and his family, including me, into exile in the Helusian Forest. As General Tonsairi's economic policies turned to out to be fruitless and simply drove the country into deeper economic turmoil, he started to look for scapegoats. And he found them, in the form of many of the people that Sperians had ultimately started to hate in the first place; Basques, Quadrinitarians, Protestants, Frenchmen and, above all, anyone and everyone who was blue-eyed and/or had blond or red hair. He discriminated against them all, especially the later, and slowly turned the thumbscrews of prejudice until it turned into systematic genocide. Over a million people were slaughtered," he stopped, with a sorrowful look on his face, then continued, pointing at his cerulean eyes, "...and he would have had me killed, too, if he hadn't exiled me and forgot where he had put me in the first place!" He then forced a bit of a grin to accompany his dark joke. "I'm sorry to hear that," the Galician said frankly, trying to keep his eyes open in his fatigue, "And I have heard of this genocide... Tonsairi's Massacres, they call it. But doesn't this simply justify that Sperry is in no state to rule itself?" He was interrupted by the Falcon, who obviously just wasn't finished talking and looked at the envoy with a slight anger. "Eventually, people got fed up with his policies," he continued on, "and a rebellion rose up to fight against him. But they were slowly beaten back, and desperately needed help. So they asked for France, their old enemy, to come and overthrow Tonsairi. The Sixth Republic was happy to help, since the General was killing many Frenchman; and along with the Sperian Liberation Front, in 2001 they captured Tonsairi and had him shot to death by firing squad. France then annexed Sperry in an agreement with the Front; the Sixth Republic would control the country, with Sperry as an autonomous region with its own regional government and laws, until it was back on its feet economically, militarily and socially. It was a generous offer, and it was accepted with open arms. Almost immediately after the union with the Sixth Republic, things began to get much better; living standards started to return to pre-Tonsairi times, the country stabilized, and social ideas changed back in favour of democracy. The monarchy, however, was not reinstated, and my family remained in the woods. Eventually, the Sixth Republic itself, rotten in its structure, collapsed nine years into the agreement, and Sperry was independant. Which brings us to now." The envoy breathed a sigh of relief that the history lesson was over. "Yes, now. Do you accept our generous offer, as I stated before?" he asked. Henry slowly stood up from his chair and started to walk around with his arms behind his back, ready to give an official answer, "Your offer seems benevolent enough, at least at first. I have heard the reports from around the country since I arrived in Armaga, and so far very few people have been killed and little property has been damaged, besides resisters who were shot in the name of... safety..." He paused, looking at the Galician in the eyes, "But why the need for the massive numbers of soldiers, then? If all you came for was to distribute supplies and assistance, then sending an aid society to help, or air-dropping supplies, would have sufficed." "Because this country is obviously unstable!" The envoy replied, trying to defend his argument. "It was unstable... 20 years ago," Henry said in a sarcastic tone. "But I know this country better than any Venetian, and I know that it is far from unstable in this day and age. You cannot deny that while you were travelling through the country with Venetian troops escorting you, that there was a remarkable calm, was there not?" The Galician remained silent. "The calm was surprising, I'll bet. It surprised me too, in fact! But it wasn't without reason. Since we were in a good state before France collapsed, so we remained afterwords. Although there were, and still are, some problems, including the somewhat limited power the Autonomous Government of Sperry has over the country, and the lack of troops of our own ethnicity within our borders, that doesn't mean we are in chaos; far from it. And things will only get better. Interference and outright annexation by the so-called "La Serenissima" will not only hinder this process," he said, and then pointed outside to the crazed crowd, who now knew that there was a Venetian within the city, "...but the majority of the populace does not desire this annexation in the first place. After 20 long years of alternating prosperity and devastation, all under either foreign powers or dictatorships, do you really think that we want yet another foreign state ruling our great nation? No; we want to continue our 1700 years of glory!" The Galician was about the rebute him before a royal attendant brought news to the Prince. "I deeply apologize, Sui Machestat, but your father, King Paul IX, has just passed away. As impromptu as it is, I absolutely must say this by protocol; Li Raigai est mortui, veva li Raigai!" He then handed him a small crown, lying on a crimson pillow, that would temporarily showcase the new king's status; until the official coronation, at least. Henry stood as if her were in a state of comatose. Fear, sorrow, pain, ecstacy and confidence all came together as one emotion within in him, and almost made him faint. But all he ended up doing was falling back into his chair. After a few minutes of deep silence within the room, with only the crowds breaking the calm, he stood up once again, this time with a smile on his face. "Chi t'ami, patrai...", he whispered under his breath, a single tear rolling down his cheek. He then turned his attention to the Galician once again, "I guess I can't accept the title of duke now, can I?" Henry said playfully to the envoy. "In short, we appreciate the assistance greatly," Henry summarized, placing his temporary new crown on his head, "But in the end, if we do not accept the scalpel of aid, will you cut our throats with it?" He ended in a defiant manner, his blue deep-set eyes glaring with pride. Edited by Hastine, Jul 18 2010, 11:35 PM.
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| Telosan | Mar 16 2010, 08:40 PM Post #53 |
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OOC: There's the problem with dialogue. You have to put words in the other's mouth, which is difficult to do, IMO. The Venetian would've been more courteous, but all in all, it's fine. Also, what RL language are the Sperians speaking? IC: Though a little unnerved by the convenient timing of the former Sperian king's death, the diplomat took it in stride. "Well, allow me to congratulate you on your ascension to the throne, as well as offer my condolences for the loss of your father. Venice is a very open country. We have tried to welcome the cultures of others many times, as can be seen by the addition of my own home of Galicia into the republic. We can craft a special position for you. You can remain a king and rule over Sperry, but as part of the republic. As difficult as it is to believe, we are here peacefully. The soldiers are here to distribute the supplies and ensure order is kept until such a time that they are no longer needed, which would likely be after the election of the Sperian representatives to the Pregadi. This is a tough decision to make, as you have just become king. I will leave you for now to think it over. When you decide, please send a messenger for me and I will arrive shortly thereafter." The Venetian stood, bowed, and walked out of the building, escorted to out of the city by the same guards that brought him in. |
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| Hastine | Mar 16 2010, 10:34 PM Post #54 |
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(OOC: I know, and I apologize if I made the Galician guy seem a bit, well, stupid or rude. Although when I was writing it, it seemed kind of natural to me for him to have those reactions, considering that Henry is only 19 years old and is kind of a crazy guy, since he flips from one mood to another in an instant and likes to play with people's minds; hell, he'd be a psychopath if he wasn't a fairly decent person. :P And they arn't speaking a real-life language; they're speaking Sperian, originally known as Pyrian, a Romance language I made up. ^^ It's not really part of any other Romance family like the Ibero-Romance (Spanish, Portuguese) or the Italo-Romance (Sicilian, Italian, Venetian), although families like the Gallo-Romance languages (French, Occitan and Catalan) are fairly close. I've been working on it for years, and alot of people from the Western Europe forum knew about it (and Toussaint, Union and Ulgania will certainly recognize bits and pieces, heh).) IC: "...There's no need for me to think." The king said abruptly. The Venetian diplomat stopped in his tracks, as did the guards escorting him, and slowly turned around. "What was that?" "The people have spoken, and as their king, I speak in their favour. Because Sperry just also happens to be a democracy, and as such, we have decided not to become a part of yours. Now then..." he stopped, lifting his arms to straighten his newly-gained crown, "Either have these soldiers leave peacefully, as they came peacefully, or we will force them to leave. Simple as that." Edited by Hastine, Mar 16 2010, 10:36 PM.
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| Telosan | Mar 17 2010, 03:43 PM Post #55 |
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"Sir, I beg you to reconsider," the shocked Galician responded. "I have considered it and already given my answer. Did you not hear?" "At least spend more time to think over this monumental decision." "Alright... still no. The guards will see you out of the city." At this, the guards dragged the protesting man to the city outskirts, where they watched as the representative returned to his countrymen. ~~~~~ The soldiers continued to sweep north, doing nothing different from what they had done previously. As they neared Armague, they noticed a considerable decline in the population, strange for a city suburb. Upon entering the city, it was soon apparent why, as locals appeared from every street corner and door, throwing many flaming objects. A handful of bullets could be heard as the city-dwellers opened up with whatever arms they had. Under orders to not fire for any reason, the Venetians immediately fell back, for staying put or continuing would spell death. The farther back they retreated, the more Sperians joined the ragtag army as they passed by the many villages and towns that dotted the landscape. Before long, they had reached the Pyrenees, but word reached them that the eastern provinces had not rebelled, and so they turned that way. They reached Marsielle, where they waited for further orders. After just a few short days, handfuls of Sperians began arriving on the horizon, but waited for the rest of their force. Once they had gathered, they began to march into the city and were met not by the expected retreat, nor the less expected but still possible crackle of firearms, but a flag of truce. A different, more trained diplomat had arrived to handle the situation and, hopefully, come to terms with the frenzied mob of an army. They could only hope the young king was present among the crowd... |
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| Hastine | Mar 23 2010, 11:28 PM Post #56 |
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(OOC: This sort of gives a backstory to how the Sperians pushed back the Venetians to Marseille. The post with Chosaifi Vaqairi meeting the new Venetian diplomat in Marseille will be written soon.) IC: After the Galician had been escorted across the Laili and back to the Venetians, Henry slumped back into his seat and stared at the rotating fan attached the ceiling for what seemed to be hours, tears slowly falling down his reddened eyes. Despite the din of the shouting, the noises of gunfire, the explosions of makeshift bombs and the raging flames in some of the streets, the King layed back unshaken by the fighting outside the mayor's office (which overlooked the Laili), but was all the more shaken by the emotions that had overwhelmed him after he had heard the news of his father's death. He had kept them in the best he could when the diplomat was in his office; after all, he had to save face in front of the man, to show that he was fully capable of leading his nation back to its independance and to stand for its right to be free. He couldn't show any hint of doubt in his eyes. But now, doubt was all that was in his mind. His bodyguards just stared at him with concern; they knew he was alright physically, but mentally they had no idea what to do. Best just to leave him in his thoughts, they said to themselves, but to watch him as well as they could, what with the dangerous situation taking place outside the walls of the building. Chosaifi Vaqairi, however, who had been in the washroom the entire time the envoy and Henry had been talking ("Cleaning his suit," he had explained), conveniently arrived back in the room during the middle of the battle taking place outside, and made his way over to Henry's desk. "Yoo-hoo," he said playfully, tapping on the desk, "...Oh, come now, don't tell me our new king has died fifteen minutes into his office!" "...Shut up," the King said with a sharp murmur towards the ceiling, which he continued to stare at. Vaqairi stood and frowned, "You have a country to lead now, you know. Free elections arn't going to start until you lay down the stability that it requires..." "How can I lead a country when I can't even lead myself to stand?" Henry yelled, covering his eyes with his hand, "My dad just fucking died, you know!" Vaqairi looked down with a bit of sadness, thinking about the situation more clearly, "Fair enough. You're in rough shape right now; I understand. But could you at least give some orders, so that other people can help you do your job?" The king continued to lay back in his seat, as if he were in a coma. After a few seconds of silence, he answered slowly, "I guess that's not too much to ask..." he said, trying to speak in between his intermediate weeping. "Alright. General Chacombi, come here..." The General, who was nearby the King looking out the window, giving orders to the troops on the streets via radio, stood to attention and went around to the front of the desk. Vaqairi then rolled out a military map of Sperry. The King's body, meanwhile, flopped like a ragdoll onto the desk, with only his arms stopping him from smashing open his head. He slowly opened his lids, the blur of the upclose chart in his eyes. "This," Chacombi pointed, "...is where the main force of the Venetians are located, within Armaga's suburbs. Some of that group has come to the riverbank of the Laili, while, much smaller groups are scattered throughout the country. However, the most peculiar thing is... they're not fighting back. We're winning the battle, Your Majesty; they refuse to attack the citizens, while the citizens are all the more happy to cut their throats and dump their bodies into the rivers. It's practically becoming a slaughter here in the capital." "Excellent!" Vaqairi grinned, "Now they'll know never to fuck with us again!" With that statement, the sullen King immediately raised his head a few inches, clenched his fist, and smashed it down on Vaqairi's bare hand. Vaqairi winced in pain, and the smirk was immediately wiped off his face. Chacombi was silent. "I should write a letter of de-recommendation for you, Vaqairi. You want to be the Prime Minister of this country? Then fucking act like it!" the King shouted. "...This is all pure cowardice. That's what it is. And Chacombi, you call this "winning the battle"? It's not even a fight! No, I call it what you just called it at the end of your statement; a slaughter. I know I said that I wanted these people out of my country, even if it meant bloodshed. But if they refuse to fight... will we show them no mercy? We are not barbarians, and we don't need the world to start thinking that!" "Then what do you suppose we do?" Vaqairi said sarcastically, still shaking his red hand in discomfort, "Even if they refuse to fight, they're squatters in an occupied house. They WILL be evicted, and the only way to do that is with force." The King finally propped himself up straight in his seat, and replied, "...Who says we have to use force? From what I've heard from your report, General Chacombi, the Venetians have no clue what to do in this situation. They expected us to welcome them, and now they're shocked that it's the complete opposite. They're afraid, gentleman; they want to pen us like a horse, but they know they can't hurt us." "Are you proposing for us... to scare them out?" Vaqairi said, raising an eyebrow. "Exactly." Henry then pointed to various spots on the small part of the map that was the city of Armaga, "Order the troops to stop their fire when necessary, and only to threaten it. As for the citizens, tell them that if they do not desist in mindlessly killing the Venetian soldiers, they will be arrested. Instead, tell them to force the Venetians out by threatening violence, and using it if they do not flee; any weapon will do, but knives, long-pointed objects, broken glass bottles, and other sharp objects will work the most effectively. Think of the pike formation of the old days; if the Venetians do not flee and run, they will be "impaled", so to speak, by the advancing citizens and soldiers. Tell them, in effect, to be a pincer; a moving wall." Chacombi and Vaqairi were both intrigued. "What about the people outside of the city? And where should we drive the Venetians to?" the General asked. "They will do the same thing as the people in Armaga. Every village, town and city must use the same tactic and drive the Venetians east. Since they already landed in the west of the country by sea, we don't need to worry about more reinforcements coming from Galicia and Asturias; we will simply push them eastward, until they cross the River Rhone. I have heard that their base of operations is centred in Marseille, where there are few Sperians and resistance in minimal. Once we have secured the Province of Ontaire, I want you, General Chacombi, to lead the armies towards the Rhone, and you, Vaqairi, to go with them. Your job, along with a small military escort, is to cross the Rhone and speak with the man in charge of these operations, and I suspect that he's in Marseille right now; think of it as practice for the job that you desire," Henry said, as he smirked towards Vaqairi. Vaqairu looked away in a slight embarassment, but tried to hold his dignity, "Why don't you go, Your Majesty? From your earlier statements, it seems you don't see me fit to even speak for you, let alone lead the country..." "Then prove me wrong," the King replied, "...You've done so plenty of other times. The good in you outways the bad... And I have faith in you. Besides, I need to watch over the city." Vaqairi nodded, "You won't we disappointed then. Shall we be off, General?" "Se, let's go." Chacombi smiled. The two saluted the King and walked out of the room, while Henry slumped back in his chair, pondering what to do next. It was one hell of an idea that Henry had, Chacombi and Vaqairi said to each other, but the boy king was usually spot-on in his strategy, and knew his shit. Edited by Hastine, Jul 18 2010, 11:36 PM.
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| Telosan | Mar 25 2010, 05:18 PM Post #57 |
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The large army of Sperian locals still sat on the horizon, growing steadily larger with each passing hour. After two tense days, a man came forward from the crowd. He appeared unarmed and so the Venetians let him in. The man claimed to be a representative of the Sperian king and sought to speak to whoever was in charge of the operation. Those coordinating the 'fight' refused to speak with him, instead directing him to the Galician diplomat that had been in Armague just a few days prior. "So you've come to demand our surrender? You'll not have it, for we haven't even begun to fight. Here the locals are supportive of us, so we will have no hesitations of shooting down those that threaten these people or us." OOC: I'll have to PM you so were can continue this conversation and have all the bases covered. |
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| Hastine | Apr 3 2010, 04:18 PM Post #58 |
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It was clear from the ground that Sperry had freed itself from the hands of the Venetians. In every village, city, and town, the Sperians had driven them out in exactly the fashion that King Henry had ordered them to do; by insinuating violence, but only using it if necessary. Because of this, the Venetians quickly made their way eastward to escape the mobs that they were ordered not to touch; although some lost their nerve and attacked some Sperians in the stress of combat, leading to overinflated reactions by the locals that resulted in several hundred casualties on the part of the Venetians, although most of these had taken place at the "Siege" of Armaga and slowly trickled to a halt as the campaign wore on. Now, the ragtag army of militants and professional troops were parked on the west bank of the Rhone River, ready on order to cross the river into Arles and then march on Marseille, the temporary headquarters of the Venetian operations in Gaul. But although the army was eager to move forward, the generals and commanders decided that they weren't going anywhere. A few days earlier, when they were in Montpellier, they were attacked by local Occitan rebels at the flanks and took several hours to subdue to city. It was clear from this and other attacks that they were no longer welcome; the Sperian/Sabasian-speaking populations had quickly dissipated once they had passed the port city of Sancca Marea dai las Lacunas (OOC: RL Sete and Frontignan), and the Occitan/French-speaking populations grew ever bigger. And they were largely in support of Venetian hegemony over their lands, unlike the Sperians. Instead of marching any further, Chosaifu Vaqairi, who was escorted by the army the whole time under the command of General Tsefani Chacombi, had several hundred troops come with him across the Rhone, so that he could meet with whoever was in charge at Marseille. ---------------------------- "All we demand," Vaqairi stated cooley to the Galician, "Is that the Venetians drop all claims to hegemony over the Kingdom of Sperry, to cease all interference in our internal and external affairs, and to recognize us as a sovereign state. Simple as that. In return, we will recognize your dominion over the Frenchmen and Occitans of southeastern France; after all, we have no interest in placing ourselves where we are not welcome, as we have found out in unfortunate ways, and it seems as thought the populace here has spoken in favour of your rule. And who are we to speak against their word?" Edited by Hastine, Jul 18 2010, 11:37 PM.
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| Telosan | Apr 3 2010, 04:33 PM Post #59 |
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"The Sperian populace has no presence in the east, so this was a wise move on your part. It would also be stupid of us to not accept this compromise, especially given that we are, were, here to protect these people who so obviously don't want us to do so. Shall we draft a document?" A treaty was drawn up, establishing the exact eastern border of Sperry as well as mutual recognition of the territories under either's control. ~~~~~ Official Statement from Venice Due to a lack of accurate information, Venice appears to have inadvertently invaded a legitimate sovereign power. For this, we sincerely apologize and wish to extend our condolences as well as compensation to those who tragically lost their lives in this misunderstanding. Henceforth, Venice recognizes the Kingdom of Sperry as an independent nation with full rights to the lands it claims with the exception of the Pyrenees region currently in dispute with the Union of Huesca and Navarra. Edited by Telosan, Apr 5 2010, 03:19 PM.
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| Union | Apr 5 2010, 03:14 PM Post #60 |
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Official Statement of the Union of the Pyrenees The Venetian recognition of all Sperian claims is a direct violation of the Concord of 2010, which pledges Venetian non-interference in matters west of Toulouse. The currently Sperian claim on Union territory around Biarritz and Pau is illegitimate, and Venetian recognition of that claim constitutes a Venetian action outside of establish parameters. We demand that the Venetian government immediately withdraw its recognition of the illegal Sperian claim, under threat of a withdrawal of recognition of the Venetian claims on Iberia, and appropriate military action to rectify what will then be seen as an illegal occupation. The Venetian government has one week to void its recognition of the Sperian claim. Alban d'Espivant, President of the Pau Republic Miguel Trouillefou, Chairman of the Union of the Pyrenees |
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| Telosan | Apr 5 2010, 03:18 PM Post #61 |
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OOC: The recognition only applies to the territory that Venice was attempting to take. Besides, the disputed territory wasn't disputed until after Sperry was independent, which is following this. Either way, it will be edited into my previous post. |
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| Union | Apr 5 2010, 05:10 PM Post #62 |
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OOC: I took it at the same time, and I would prefer we didn't edit it and simply went with it. I don't want to fight a war, just publish an alternative statement. Not all RPs have to be long drawn out affairs, and some can be a single-shot diplomatic scuffle. There is no need to edit everything because it raises an issue you did not notice. Your original statement recognized all lands they claimed. I raised issue. You issue a revised statement. A nice, short, simple RP that characterizes our nations. Again, no need to edit. Edited by Union, Apr 5 2010, 05:11 PM.
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| Hastine | Apr 6 2010, 03:10 AM Post #63 |
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(OOC: Please change "Toulouse" to "Canaste" please. I know I haven't posted a map of my cities, and I apologize for being blunt, but I might as well get that in beforehand. :P) IC: Official Statement of the Kingdom of Sperry To the Union of the Pyrenees Considering that the Union of the Pyreness also illegally invaded sovereign Sperian land in the midst of our internal strife, we find it hard-pressed for you to suddenly cry foul when we come back to claim what is ours. While the Venetians have politely apologized for their mishandling of the situation in Gaul, the Union remains unrepentant of its "deal with the devil", as it can easily be called, with Venice that resulted in the illegal occupation of Upper Cisylvania. And if this is not ludicrous enough, you further claim that the Kingdom of Sperry west of the city of Canaste is an illegitimate state, and then penalize the Venetian Republic for echoing the contrary! Do you not realize that half of Sperry's population, lives west of this so-called "parameter of influence" they you have set up and continue to follow, including the capital, Armague? By demanding that Venice immediately cease its recognition of Sperian territory west of Canaste, you effectively refuse to recognize the Kingdom of Sperry as a legal entity? We pray to God that you have merely mispoken your words. The status of Upper Cisylvania, however, is another matter that can, in fact, be debated, despite the cowardly and aggressive way in which it has been taken from Sperian control. Under the dictatorship of General Tonsairu, many Basques were killed under his genocidal, racist policies. Later, when he was overthrown and Sperry was temporarily annexed to the Sixth French Republic, the Basque-speaking regions of Upper Cisylvania were promised full independance, within ten years of the annexation, from the Sperian Autonomous Region. Since the occupation by the Sixth French Republic was cut short by its sudden collapse, it has only been nine years, but we are still willing to secede the Basque-speaking regions to the Union of the Pyrenees if the people so wish it, as recompensation for the horrors perpetrated by Tonsairu. Posted Image This, however, means that all other currently-occupied territories that are NOT Basque-speaking, as shown on the map, must be returned to the Kingdom of Sperry immediately. The cities of "Pau", which we call Varpix (Varpais), and Lourdes (Lurnda) are of special concern. Thus, if you agree to secede these non-Basque areas, we will in turn recognize your sovereignty over the Basque-speaking areas. But if you refuse to secede them, then we will consider the entire occupation illegal. To Venice: We forgive the Venetian Republic for its mistep, and are thankful for the funds being sent to recompensate for Sperians who died during the short war. In return, we will recompensate the Venetian families who lost their loved ones to disobedient Sperian militia. In return and in thanks for your recognition of Sperry as a sovereign state, we hereby recognize Venetian sovereignty over Southeastern France. We also do not see it as obligatory for the Venetians to recognize the disputed territories in Upper Cisylvania as Sperian; we hope this helps to stop the current threats coming from the Union of the Pyrenees. -------------------- -Henry XII of the House of St. Lawrence, By the Grace of God, King of All Sperry, Emperor of the Western Roman Empire, King of Daile, King of Sabasia, Rox of Helusia, Duke of Lunia, Duke of Jolory, Count of Cisylvania, Count of The Magues, Protector of the Sperian Catholic Church, etc., etc. |
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| Union | Apr 6 2010, 11:01 AM Post #64 |
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Official Statement: We are a multi-ethnic, multi-national state, including Spaniards, Basques, Frenchman, and Sperians - and do not recognize any claims rooted in monoethnic nationalism. This is a backwards ideal to which the Sperians aspire too, and one we will not allow to seep into our country. All Sperians who find themselves unable to live under the Union flag have been offered full compensation to relocate. Our state is internationally recognized - there is simply no basis for the Sperian complaint. |
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| Telosan | Apr 6 2010, 02:22 PM Post #65 |
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Though we recognize Sperian sovereignty, Venice is neutral to the current debate over the Pyrenees region. |
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| Hastine | Apr 6 2010, 05:09 PM Post #66 |
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Official Statement by the Kingdom of Sperry Then what, pray tell, has the Union of the Pyrenees based its illegal claim of Upper Cisylvania on, exactly? If it is not the liberation of the Basques, then it can only be based on two other things. Our first guess, is that there were fears that the so-called "chaos" in Gaul would spread into the Iberian Peninsula, and that in order to protect its sovereignty, the Union occupied Upper Cisylvania as a buffer zone. An understandable act, but one that is no longer needed, as the Kingdom of Sperry is stable and will remain so as long as democracy prevails. Our second guess, unfortunately, is that the invasion of Upper Cisylvania was purely an opportunist, expansionist act that selfishly disregarded and continues to disregard our own sovereign borders and the people that inhabit them. Your state may be fully internationally recognized, but so was Sperry before the occupation by the Sixth French Republic; and we will be fully recognized once again within due time. The Union of the Pyrenees, meanwhile, immediately has to answer to the international community, and to us, as to why it continues to occupy Upper Cisylvania, despite our protests. We pray that our first guess, that Upper Cisylvania is being used as a buffer zone, is the one that the Union has had in mind since the beginning. But if it's our second guess, the Union may not get the positive reactions it seems to think it deserves from other nations. In the end, justice will decide, despite the odds and biases. On a further not, we will ignore the uncalled-for comment on Sperry being "backward" simply on the premise that we actually have a visible national identity. We will not lower ourselves to answer to such low-brow attacks. Edited by Hastine, Apr 6 2010, 05:10 PM.
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| Union | Apr 7 2010, 12:25 AM Post #67 |
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Official Statement: Our goals for the occupation of the Pau Republic where singular in purpose, and clearly stated at the start of operations. This operation was conducted to secure the strategic interests of the Union region, and to secure important military structures that had been under shared administration by Union and French officials prior to the dissolution of the Republic. We do not trust the Sperian state to offer them similar access into the heart of the strategic command of our nation. The territory annexed was minimal, and did not include territory beyond that that already existed as a shared military zone of TATO command. Because of the reasons surrounding this occupation, we offered all individuals who were not comfortable with the prospect the right of return northwards. We allowed democratic elections, and have made the region a fully equal partner in the Union federal structure. We are fully willing to entertain realistic proposals to allow easy transportation of civilians and goods across a demilitarized border, but will not give up this territory at this time. This is simply non-negotiable, and would render the Union far too vulnerable and dependent on Sperian capacity - a move that is impossible at this time, and in the foreseeable future. |
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| Telosan | Apr 17 2010, 07:55 PM Post #68 |
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OOC: Now that Sperry recognizes the expansion, as per the treaty, does that change anything? Also, does anyone else's opinion change now that the RP has been completed? |
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| Porcu | Apr 17 2010, 10:17 PM Post #69 |
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OOC: I refer you to our exchange at the end of the first page. |
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| Telosan | Apr 17 2010, 11:15 PM Post #70 |
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OOC: Ah, okay. So that means Porcu, Sperry, Cologne, and the Union, I think, approves. |
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| NRE | Oct 22 2010, 02:39 PM Post #71 |
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OOC: Ok so I was asked to look back into this expansion and here is what I've come up with (noting that I'm only accounting for nations that exist as of today). For: Cologne, Porcu, Sperry Against: T.O. Union officially recognized the claim, however (and I admit I skimmed some section) there was some dispute between Vince and the Union when Vince recognized the Kingdom of Sperry. However, even if U doesn't reverse its opinion, that still puts the number 3-2 so either way it looks like this expansion can go through. |
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| Hastine | Dec 8 2010, 10:16 PM Post #72 |
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Official Statement by the Kingdom of Sperry: After much consideration, the Kingdom of Sperry is now willing to cede Upper Cisylvania to the Union of the Pyrenees, under certain conditions: - The border area becomes as demilitarized as possible on both sides, and a relatively free (i.e. with border guards) movement of goods and people between our states is established. - The Hesperian, Colonian and Genesian Catholic pilgrimage site of Lirnda (Lourdes) is freely open to all pilgrims who wish to go there, and no discrimination based on religious belief will be used to prevent entry to pilgrims. - All Sperian-speaking people in the area are allowed to leave the Pau Republic, as well as to stay in it if they so please, and accomodations to their linguistic and cultural needs will be provided (which the Kingdom of Sperry is willing to provide some funding towards). - A non-aggression pact lasting for five years (OOC: Five months I guess? Lol.) will be put in place between the Kingdom of Sperry and the Union of the Pyrenees. We hope that these terms are acceptable. Edited by Hastine, Dec 8 2010, 10:17 PM.
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| Union | Dec 9 2010, 01:42 AM Post #73 |
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Foreign Office We require a clarification of the definition of a demilitarized border. We do not hide that the area is of great strategic military importance, and home to extensive military fortifications which we are unwilling to dismantle. However, these fortifications exist within the mountains, and we can have a relatively demilitarized above ground presence. |
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| Hastine | Dec 9 2010, 08:07 PM Post #74 |
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We are aware of these fortifications in the mountains, and have no current problem with their self-defensive purpose. It is mainly the flat, vulnerable plains and foothills that are the issue, on both sides of our border. As long as massive numbers of troops are not present at the immediate border, we are satisfied, and we will keep our side largely demilitarized as well.
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| Union | Dec 9 2010, 11:56 PM Post #75 |
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We would gladly examine any documents sent to us that outline these general terms, and will meet with any representative you may wish to send. We are glad that this issue may be resolved in a civilized manor. It seems too long ago that the Treaty of Konigsberg departed from this region, and in its absence it seems that peace and civilization have given way to barbarism and war. Secret addendum The Union would also wish to know the position of the Sperrian state in regards to expansion efforts by the Irish government into France, well within the Sperrian zone of influence. We do not need to remind you that the Irish are close allies of the Venetians, and that this tendency they have demonstrated to expand at all costs harms not only the general stability of the region, but poses a very clear and present threat on the territorial integrity of all French states. To this end, the Union would be willing to entertain a more expansive agreement aimed at minimizing foreign intervention in these regions, with the aim being of course the security of all parties affected by these militant opportunists. It is our unquestioned belief that the Irish government does not aim to cease its expansionism with the Bretonic conquest. It is important, for both political and economic regional stability, to take a firm stand against these ruffian states, lest they be led to believe that such behavior is not only acceptable, but implicitly allowed. We would be willing to make certain concessions in regards to our current activity in France, in exchange for a broad agreement that would see to the mutual defense of both Sperry and the Pyrenees, and the maintenance of territorial integrity in Gaul and Iberia. |
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