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| Topic Started: Jan 21 2010, 05:08 PM (1,038 Views) | |
| Rhadamanthus | Jan 23 2010, 12:50 AM Post #26 |
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| Sedulius | Jan 23 2010, 02:02 PM Post #27 |
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I like and dislike the idea. I think should use the real world map for true geography, but we should not map IC it out as such. I think that if this RP ever reaches a point where we do explore the entire world, we should then slowly but surely work towards reconciling it with the real world map. |
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| Telosan | Jan 23 2010, 03:15 PM Post #28 |
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I had thought that the map would be uncovered in staggering steps, not regions at a time. I figured that if someone sailed through New York Harbor, I would reveal a 25 or so mile radius of the area and the rest would be blank. Could this occur if the map were to differ from RL? If so, I would back this a bit more. If the above is true, then I would suggest a poll, voting on a handful of potential world maps, with the RL one being part of it. The poll can run for 1 or 2 days and, once the votes are tallied, a mod takes the winning map, sends it to me as the mapmaker, and then deletes the poll thread. The point to this would be that unless you were the last vote or the winning map was obvious, you wouldn't know which map won, and even if you did, the map is gone so you may not remember what it looks like. The sooner we do this, the better, as there's more time for people to forget what the map looks like. |
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| East Anarx | Jan 23 2010, 04:56 PM Post #29 |
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That's what I was hoping for: slowly revealing a whole new world, a bit at a time, whereas if we use RL geography, it doesn't make as much of a difference because we all already know what's coming next. Sounds good to me. I can see some potential problems, but I'm willing to try my hand at making a map or two. |
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| Sedulius | Jan 23 2010, 05:28 PM Post #30 |
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I was thinking we should do how you're saying initially, making the map a whole new and different than our own real world, but as time went on (and we're talking we'd have to reach the 1660s and onward) then we could reconcile it slowly with the real world, as if people were making corrections to previous errors. It's not entirely realistic, but it keeps the fun of exploration while having a realistic end product. We'd still have all the crazy world maps recorded for posterity, just as we do in RL. |
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| East Anarx | Jan 29 2010, 04:25 AM Post #31 |
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The end product will be more "realistic" if we are working with a static final map, (even with totally different geography that is revealed slowly as time goes on/it is explored,) than if we just act like we all somehow have really bad cartographers. |
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| East Anarx | Jan 29 2010, 04:06 PM Post #32 |
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In order to hopefully balance the challenges of both equitably determining exploration rights and maintaining a decent amount of secrecy over the final map as a check on premature colonization from those who have the privilege of being explorers, I propose the following rule: Those who choose the right to explore forfeit their right to see the map before it is explored, and vice versa, (those who choose to see the map forfeit their exploration rights.) And as much as I would like to RP a viking colonization of the New World, if the map I'm currently working on is selected, I'll fall into the second category by default. Here's my sketch of a proposal for the actual exploration process: 1. OOC: Mapmaker, (Telosan?) determines it is time for an expansion to the map, announces it 2. IC: Explorer, (who doesn't know what the rest of the world looks like,) roleplays his preparations for an exploration expedition 3. OOC: Explorer requests mapmaker to reveal the map in a certain direction, (i.e. west, southwest, etc.) 4. IC: Explorer roleplays aforementioned exploration Edited by East Anarx, Jan 29 2010, 04:17 PM.
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| Telosan | Jan 29 2010, 04:09 PM Post #33 |
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What do I do then? I'm the mapmaker, I have to see the map. Also, the people making the map? If we do my idea from before, the creator of the map won't even know if his was chosen. Edited by Telosan, Jan 29 2010, 04:09 PM.
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| East Anarx | Jan 29 2010, 04:19 PM Post #34 |
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I edited my above post to attempt to answer at least one of your questions. I'll PM you a work-in-progress preview of the map I'm working on momentarily. |
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| New Harumf | Jan 31 2010, 11:30 AM Post #35 |
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Obviously, we can have more than one country explore in the same direction, but I do think the rights of first discovery, and naming rights should be divided up to avoid huge OOC arguments. I, for one, will be exploring South down the West coast of Africa (I have already started) and, of course, accross the South and Central Atlantic, as per historical Portugal (Me got the Azores, I believe). I think historical initial directions should prevail (Spain, in the Gulf Stream; the U.K., accross the North Atlantic and some in the Gulf Stream; Portugal, down the coast of Africa and Below the Gulf Stream; France, accross the North Atlantic, and the Gulf Stream; the Dutch, North Atlantic and Gulf Stream, etc.) Where each is allowed to end up/have revealed, initially, should be determined by the mapmaker. After that, we play as usual for additional colonies/lands. It would be hillarious is the Gulf stream took you right into the Pacific with no inturrupting land mass :lol: :lol: "The French discover California!" P.S. We could initially give the mapmaker our course in the Atlantic, and he could reveal the bit of coastline we hit, and explore! I would really like this (I'm sailing the 10th parallel South, due West, till I hit something!) Edited by New Harumf, Jan 31 2010, 11:36 AM.
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| Telosan | Jan 31 2010, 01:49 PM Post #36 |
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I made another thread, so that conversation can be fleshed out. The map isn't final, but I'm sure any potential maps by those who want to try their hand at cartography will be at least loosely based on the original continent layout. Also, I've just remembered something. When we picked our nations, we chose by provinces. Huesca, do you have any similar maps for the other continents, or did you map that map yourself? That may make things a little easier. If we go with an alternate map, the provinces can be transferred to that map with a little effort. |
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| Telosan | Feb 2 2010, 09:27 PM Post #37 |
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Alright, so are we going to do this? Anyone who wants to make a map, PM it to me by next Tuesday. That gives you a week. On Tuesday, I'll open a poll for at the maps, including the RL world map. The poll will run for a no more than a day. I'll put it up after school and take it down that night. Please use Kybelis as the template! Edited by Telosan, Feb 2 2010, 09:28 PM.
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| Telosan | Mar 8 2010, 10:44 PM Post #38 |
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Well I obviously didn't follow up with this, but I never received any more maps. Does anyone have a map they'd like to share? If not, I'll just put up the poll. |
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| New Harumf | Mar 9 2010, 11:29 AM Post #39 |
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Poll away. I will come back to this only when someone is ready to resolve my siege of Tripoli! |
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| Telosan | Apr 18 2010, 07:48 PM Post #40 |
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Okay, I only have 1 map proposal and, I know I keep saying this, but I'd like more before putting up the poll. So many people were interested in this, so lets see some ideas! PM me!!! |
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| East Anarx | Aug 18 2010, 04:52 PM Post #41 |
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Give me some time, (not like this is going anywhere fast anytime soon anyways,) and I'll probably finish my map proposal. |
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| East Anarx | Dec 13 2010, 08:12 PM Post #42 |
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As much as it pains me to do so, I must admit that 1452 is basically dead. And so, even though I would have preferred this map be revealed incrementally as the world was explored through IC roleplay, I am posting it here in full so that you can all know what you're missing. :P Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Rhadamanthus | Dec 14 2010, 11:22 AM Post #43 |
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Aweseome! And terrifying. :) And hey, is that Atlantis? :D |
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| Telosan | Dec 14 2010, 04:07 PM Post #44 |
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The map's interesting; I'm disappointed we didn't get to play it. :( Maybe we'll save it for the next, doomed to fail NS2. The heart of Africa was unexplored at the time right? I think it'd be cool if Africa was hollow, going through Victoria Falls and connecting to the Indian Ocean about halfway between South Africa and the Horn of Africa. |
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| East Anarx | Dec 16 2010, 01:01 PM Post #45 |
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That would be awesome, when I have some time perhaps I'll carve it out. |
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| New Harumf | Dec 16 2010, 04:02 PM Post #46 |
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I love lake Bigfoot in the middle of South America, and the Lady Head Sound in Canada, great work! |
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