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European Map Comentary
Topic Started: Apr 23 2005, 07:32 AM (4,964 Views)
Menhad
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One minor point, It says "The Order of the Teutonic Knights Capital" instead of just "Order of the Teutonic Knights"

Also this whole Spain thing got me thinking, The Teutonic Knights held land all through out Europe, so could I have Venice Please :D
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Telosan
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Sorry, I've got it, provided CE is not coming back.
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Menhad
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Jul 10 2009, 05:20 PM
Sorry, I've got it, provided CE is not coming back.
Damn, you've got enough land already.

Oh well can I have some land in Southern Italy? Just some small spot like Naples or something.
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Menhad
Jul 10 2009, 05:19 PM
One minor point, It says "The Order of the Teutonic Knights Capital" instead of just "Order of the Teutonic Knights"

Also this whole Spain thing got me thinking, The Teutonic Knights held land all through out Europe, so could I have Venice Please :D
They held land all over, but the Monastic State itself, and thus their military presence, was limited to Prussia and their northern conquests, with one exception.

They did hold Acre in the Middle East, and kept a good military presence there to combat Muslims. Of course, RD holds that.

I would recommend you concentrate on expanding your state north and east into Latvia, Livonia, and Lithuania, maybe try to take Visby from the Kasnyians. You know, really show just how badass the Teutonic Knights are supposed to be.

Also, Ireland would be willing to help you set up production facilities for power armor should wish it.
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Kasnyia
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No one will take anything from the Kasnyians. :dry:
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Konosha
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Menhad
Jul 10 2009, 05:22 PM
Telosan
Jul 10 2009, 05:20 PM
Sorry, I've got it, provided CE is not coming back.
Damn, you've got enough land already.

Oh well can I have some land in Southern Italy? Just some small spot like Naples or something.
You ALL have too much land! This is exactly what I feared would happen after the Dominion war in Europe was over, a feeding frenzy.

Then again this is coming from the guy who held one of the largest nations in the world, albeit it Northern Siberia, so don't heed me... :P
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Porcu
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Konosha
Jul 11 2009, 04:53 PM
You ALL have too much land! This is exactly what I feared would happen after the Dominion war in Europe was over, a feeding frenzy.
I beg your pardon
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Ulgania
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Still beats Africa (I'm not plugging Africa right now at all)
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Toussaint
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This is the current Balance of Power thread for Europe. If there is any discrepancy, or if you feel any of my rankings are unfair, please let me know and we can discuss/fix them.

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THE GREAT POWERS

La République Yvelinais
Basileia tôn Romaiôn
Hamburg-Bremen (Genesian Papal Controller)


THE MAJOR POWERS

Russian Empire
Kasnyian Empire
The Order of Teutonic Knights
Konosha

THE MINOR POWERS

Murmanskaya
Yshurak
Ireland
Telosan Europe
Draxis
Srolonka
The Holy Roman Empire
Marslava and Bessarabia
Çerdoné
Porcu

OTHER POWERS

Xeres & Cantalonia
The Vatican District
Huesca
The Amish Children
Helmetia
Dutch Provinces
Boghamen
Kiensland
Divided Georgia
Esternarx
Swiss Nag Ehgoeg
Edited by Toussaint, Jul 15 2009, 12:16 PM.
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Waarland
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How did you determine these, out of curiosity?
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Toussaint
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Religious map for Europe updated! Correct me on anything mis-charted. ^^
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Toussaint
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There's no exact formula- it's opinion partially based off of Defense Budget, Population Size, and IC activities.

The Great Powers Yvelines and the Roman Empire are two of the largest nations in game and play active roles in world affairs. Hamburg-Bremen is Genesian Papal Controller, and as such has a lot of clout at the moment.

Pretty much all of the "Major Powers" played major roles in the war against the Dominion, and/or have a lot of diplomatic clout, but they are not quite up to size for what a "Great Power" should be.

Some of the "Minor Powers," such as Yshurak and Murmanskaya, could easily become "Great Powers" if they took a more active role in international affairs. Others are simply on the small side, or have yet to flex their appropriate diplomatic muscle.

All of the "Other Powers" are either inactive, neutral, or both.
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Kasnyia
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If we're bringing Papal power into this, it should be brought to consideration for Cologne (which, if you wish, can be treated as a seperate entity from Kasnyia, since its officially just a protectorate rather than a colony) as head of the Colognian Papacy.
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Porcu
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Besides for not actually being on the list I've got nothing to add
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Toussaint
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Kasnyia
Jul 15 2009, 03:34 AM
If we're bringing Papal power into this, it should be brought to consideration for Cologne (which, if you wish, can be treated as a seperate entity from Kasnyia, since its officially just a protectorate rather than a colony) as head of the Colognian Papacy.
That's true, but you are the only Colognian nation in Europe. That means you only have sway over.... yourself.

And if I'm not mistaken, you're one of the only Colognians globally, too.

And sorry, Porcu. I got you on the map, so I didn't completely space on you! But, added.
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Rhadamanthus
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Might I make a suggestion? Instead of Purple-Blue-Red for Great-Major-Minor Powers respectively, you should switch the color scheme around to Blue-Purple-Red for Great-Major-Minor. This way the colors form a gradient tracking their power level. Yellow is fine for the "Other" category.
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Toussaint
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Rhadamanthus
Jul 15 2009, 12:21 PM
Might I make a suggestion? Instead of Purple-Blue-Red for Great-Major-Minor Powers respectively, you should switch the color scheme around to Blue-Purple-Red for Great-Major-Minor. This way the colors form a gradient tracking their power level. Yellow is fine for the "Other" category.
That is a good idea. I'll implement it a little later. :)
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Toussaint
Jul 15 2009, 02:11 AM
Religious map for Europe updated! Correct me on anything mis-charted. ^^
I think that the Genesians should use the name Roman Catholic, because they hold the Papal District at Rome, right? Siadhail's Church should be called "Old Catholic" instead. Additionally, I think that the color scheme could be reworked; in particular, related religions should use similar colors, while less related religions should not. If you are interested, PM me with the list of religions, and I will tell you my suggestions.

Other than that, great job on that map, the alliance map, and the balance of power map. I really appreciate your stepping up with this, which should contribute to the European Continent's RP strength :D
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Rhadamanthus
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Excellent. Glad you like it. Other than that, I think it looks great!
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Kasnyia
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Toussaint
Jul 15 2009, 12:17 PM
Kasnyia
Jul 15 2009, 03:34 AM
If we're bringing Papal power into this, it should be brought to consideration for Cologne (which, if you wish, can be treated as a seperate entity from Kasnyia, since its officially just a protectorate rather than a colony) as head of the Colognian Papacy.
That's true, but you are the only Colognian nation in Europe. That means you only have sway over.... yourself.

And if I'm not mistaken, you're one of the only Colognians globally, too.

And sorry, Porcu. I got you on the map, so I didn't completely space on you! But, added.
If the new Genesian Pope is calling for a meeting between the two sides as one of his first moves, I don't think Cologne is quite that insignificant. The players are only just now choosing sides again with the Catholocisms.
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Toussaint
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Well, at the conclusion of that meeting, I'll update the list if anything has changed. I list Kasnyia as a Major power- even though the Colognian church might still have SOME pull, it isn't near that of the Genesians.
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NRE
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You know I was wondering, given that you've done this as a map, would you just like to attach it to the official Euro maps, and we'll just have discussion be put with the Official Euro Map discussion topic?

If you want to go this route tell me, and I'll just put all the discussion from here in the map discussion thread.

Oh and by the way, I love the maps :love:
Edited by NRE, Jul 15 2009, 01:17 PM.
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Toussaint
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Jul 15 2009, 01:17 PM
You know I was wondering, given that you've done this as a map, would you just like to attach it to the official Euro maps, and we'll just have discussion be put with the Official Euro Map discussion topic?

If you want to go this route tell me, and I'll just put all the discussion from here in the map discussion thread.

Oh and by the way, I love the maps :love:
Done and doner.

And thanks for the praise. :lol:
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Kasnyia
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Kasnyia isn't the same as Cologne, and I don't mind the major power moniker for them, its Cologne that I'm talking about specifically. Either Hamburg-Bremen should be a Major Power rather than in the top tier, or Cologne should be in the top tier right along with them.
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Toussaint
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Kasnyia
Jul 15 2009, 04:37 PM
Kasnyia isn't the same as Cologne, and I don't mind the major power moniker for them, its Cologne that I'm talking about specifically. Either Hamburg-Bremen should be a Major Power rather than in the top tier, or Cologne should be in the top tier right along with them.
Cologne doesn't have nearly as much sway. If anyone disagrees with me here, I can downgrade Hamburg-Bremen or upgrade Cologne. But the way I see it, the Genesians have MUCH more membership, and the states that are Genesian seem to have more power, on the whole.
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