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European Map Comentary
Topic Started: Apr 23 2005, 07:32 AM (4,973 Views)
Union
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Q, that was a joke map from a while back. The "real" map is in the Canton thread.

Though Europe is filling up fast, there is still plenty of land east of Russia, some land in Central Europe, and if we started clearing up some of CE's land (unlikely), or removing some dead nations (like FB) and saving the land for noobs only, there would always be more. Ireland should be opened up, at least. Pascoag could give up Norway, considering he has France, or at least the northern portiosn, which were only given to him when the map was extended, and he has only ever RPed having the area around Oslo.

I'm not one to talk though, so I'll keep quiet.
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Toussaint
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May 21 2008, 02:58 PM
Edit: Menhad, are you joking? He left for Lazarus. It would be totally unreasonable to take his land immediately.

Before then though, his nation was dead for nearly a month. And when is the last time FB has posted anything IC? Or said he was going on a vacation?

EDIT: Still, I agree Europe is ultra-crowded. The multitude of mini states may make it look like it is more crowded then it is, though. CE being half of Europe, and half of the good parts does contribute. And now all of Southern, Western, and Central Europe has been occupied, leaving only what is left of Swededn to be occupied or the east. No prime land at all is left for new guys, which is sort of bizarre.
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OOC: I was kinda joking, but kinda not, mainly I wanted the shetland islands
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Maybe I can move out of Scandinavia and settle in Switzerland :rolleyes: :lol:

And Hispania I think is on to something in terms of trying to better allocate territory...But Cerdon is also right in that there still is plenty of territory in Russia and some parts of Central Europe...Nations that have been dead for sometime need to be taken off the map...
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Well so long as a nation exists in NS they exist on the map, as for FB being in the wrong region, that was partly due to the fact that I've been lazy and have yet to Telegram him about it which I just fixed a few second ago.

As for the European crowding issue, this isn't the first time Europe has been crowded and I doubt it will be the last. It, like the Middle East map, has it's ups and its downs. If people want to give up less for new players by all means tell me and I'll free up the land, but I can't take away land nor do I think it's all the fair to force anyone to take away. CE by whatever means before I was even here earned that area he nows sits in and I for one and no one to tell him to give any of it up.

The only good thing to having Europe over crowded is that it makes areas such as Africa Asia, and America (specifically South America) look more inviting which is good since these places (with perhaps the exception of Asia) have traditionally had trouble with keeping new players and keeping active.
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Pascoag and Belgium are both two different colors on the map. Is that on purpose?
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Actually, no wait I see the problem and actually we might need to talk about this as none of these expansions were requested through me and I'm a bit disturbed at the precedent this could set. I'll get back with everyone after I've thought this over and discussed it with the other mods.
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Quaon
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I thought Cerdon told you about it when he told you to take his nation off the map.
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Union
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And isn't it an agreement between actual players? Do the map mods actually have a say in RP?
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May 23 2008, 06:58 PM
And isn't it an agreement between actual players? Do the map mods actually have a say in RP?

Yes, the mapmaker has a say in all map transfers. Otherwise players could simply kill their nations and transfer land on a whim and the whole map would covered in that manner. I'm not saying that happened here; I'm just explaining the system.
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Oh.
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Quaon
May 23 2008, 04:17 PM
I thought Cerdon told you about it when he told you to take his nation off the map.

No, the only thing he and I discussed was the setting up of his new nation. I do not remember being informed about this situation. But I mean you guys know me, I'm pretty laid back person, but I still want to think this over a bit. I'll give a final ya or nay soon.
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Toussaint
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I did tell you that I would be occupied. I did not think these would all be permanent (except for, perhaps Q's).
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Yshurak's never expanded before. It's been the same bloody shape since Day One. I think it should have the opportunity to, finally.
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No don't get me wrong there are some expansions I would have cleared anyhow, I just wasn't really asked about all this, that's why it startled me. I think though, that since there are a few of you willing to give up your land to new players should the opportunity arise, I'll leave it all as is and just mark those who are willing to give some land up on the map so newbs coming through will know that they can ask for the land if they want it.

I know Menhand and Quaon have both said they've give up much if not all their land (I know Q wants to keep the old capital and that's fine), is there anyone else who will give up land if a new player wants it? If so please PM me.
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Map updated. Some people have changed numbers, one or two may have changed colors and there were a few deletions, namely:

-Austro-Bayern (Absorbed according to these actions.
-Pansevicius (Deleted Nation)
-Canton Rouge (gone from the region)
-The Polish Federation (gone from the region)

and perhaps the biggest deletion was Free Britain. Now I know this will break some hearts and make other excited in places I don't even want to think about. For those of you heart broken, yes I did contact FB a while back when his chronic absence made be begin to wonder if he'd be back. After talking with him he said he wanted to come back, I said ok fine, just keep your nation's alive so that I can keep you on the maps. He agreed, revived his nations and that was that. Sadly he never moved his nations from the Lazarus back to their proper region and of course eventually let them die.

Now I feel I am a fair man and will work with people when RL begins to interfere with their time here. However, I do not feel it is my duty to hunt down individuals who I have already spoken to about their map spots. Therefore I made the executive decision and deleted him.

As for those who are excited over the new real estate open I have this to say. I know Menhad has since they fell into FB's possession voiced his desire for the Shetland & Orkney island of which I will give you if you so wish but only those islands. I also believe it was Ukabanea who had interest in some of Ireland of which I'll review such a request and make a decision. Otherwise my ground rules for this new land is that it remain open to anyone who does not already have a nation/colony or who will give up their nation/colony for the land. I would prefer to remain open completely for new players but will take request from current players so long as they meet those requirements.

Your map God, eternal slave and devout angel to the almighty Paradise (and Nag :P ) has spoken :CE:

Other than that, the map is as she always has been.
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Jul 22 2008, 03:34 PM
I also believe it was Ukabanea who had interest in some of Ireland of which I'll review such a request and make a decision.
'Twas Sedulion, actually.
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lebowski2123
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RIP Free Britain, that history of Knights of the Round Table was going to be good, and your Civil War was a fine one.
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You know, about a year ago I would've scrapped Quaon and taken england as a chiron colony, but I've become too invested in Quaon these last few months.

RIP Free Britain.
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Toussaint
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Will the Union Americana be stricken from the American map?
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Quaon
Jul 22 2008, 07:32 PM
You know, about a year ago I would've scrapped Quaon and taken england as a chiron colony, but I've become too invested in Quaon these last few months.

RIP Free Britain.
But making England a Chiron colony would be so delightfully hilarious... Hmm... England and Wales do look appetizing...
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Toussaint,July 22,2008
7:24 PM
NRE, July 22 2008
04:34 PM
I also believe it was Ukabanea who had interest in some of Ireland of which I'll review such a request and make a decision.
'Twas Sedulion, actually.

Ah, gotcha I knew it was someone :P

Toussaint
Jul 22 2008, 07:47 PM
Will the Union Americana be stricken from the American map?
Yes, in the process of weeding out nations there too.
Edited by NRE, Jul 22 2008, 09:15 PM.
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Menhad
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Yes I do want those Islands, I have wanted them for years...

But I was willing to give up my land in Sweden for a little bit of land in Northern England and a little bit in Northern Ireland...
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NRE, you might wanna renumber the German territories on the south baltic coast and in Sweeden. In its current form it looks like E expanded there.
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E as in Esternarx? How so? I don't see it.
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