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| The Reunification of Belgium | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 15 2010, 03:29 PM (1,092 Views) | |
| Kasnyia | Jan 15 2010, 03:29 PM Post #1 |
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France had overstretched itself. They had overestimated how much they could do and in doing so they neglected the motherland. And so it fell, to be devoured by those who knew it would happen in due time. The Colognian Papacy was one such player in this French buffet. At the height of the Dominion War, the Kasnyian Empire had made a deal with the French State to divide the ruins of Porcuian Belgium along linguistic lines. The Dutch and German speaking areas were given to Kasnyia while the French area went to France. Officially all were seperate protectorates, facilitating the rebuilding of the Belgian state, but in actuality they became provinces of Cologne and France respectively. When the Kasnyian Empire formally ended its protectorate over Cologne within months of the wars end, the de jure independant status of Kasnyian Belgium ceased, though it was of no real consequence anyway. However, the fact that their once-united homeland was divided still irked the local population and so Pope John David I, in an effort to appease the desire of his Belgian subjects to be united with their southern bretheren, made his own secret moves along with the others to be ready when France finally imploded on itself. And now everything was in place. The lands would be reunited.
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| Porcu | Jan 15 2010, 05:56 PM Post #2 |
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Official Communiqué The Republic of Porcu strongly condemns the actions taken by Pope John David I and, additionally, is prepared to oppose the Colognian annexation will all available force. The situation would be different if Colognian officials had taken the time to properly gauge Belgian interest in direct annexation, consulting local leaders and citizens. Until a fair and free referendum is held, whose results can be validated and considered legitimate by an honest third party and whose results indicate a strong desire on behalf of the Belgian people to be annexed directly, Stockholm will oppose such a measure and calls upon the international community to defend Belgian sovereignty. |
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| Union | Jan 15 2010, 06:17 PM Post #3 |
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Department of Foreign Affiars, Union of Huesca & Navarra The UHN does not recognize this naked aggression by the Colognian anti-pope, and will oppose any attempt to occupy the sovereign peoples of Belgium in any way deemed necessary. Language alone is not a virtue for unification, and these people have not been given a voice in their own fate. That terrestrial power is of such concern to a nation supposedly devoted to the worship of God is a troubling and disturbing reminder of the evils that the anti-pope John David I both propagates and represents. The divisions made by occupying powers should not be a legal basis for the repatriation of a people. |
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| Toussaint | Jan 15 2010, 07:05 PM Post #4 |
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Official Statement from Lord Henry Wotton, First Minister of the Kingdom of Great Britain The Kingdom of Great Britain shall not recognize this expansion of Kasnyian authority in Europe. Already, the invaders form the sub-continent have expanded their authority too far, and Liverpool will not stand for any further expansion of authority there. The fact that this false religious leader seeks to conquer lands which are in no way similar to his own realm of authority shows the Imperialist actions to be clear cut and apparent. |
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| NRE | Jan 15 2010, 10:42 PM Post #5 |
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Official Statement from the Russian Empire The Russian Empire is troubled with the situation in Belgium at this time. Though we will not argue as to whether or not the Cologne authorities have the power to bring balance to the Belgium region in question, we will never the less continue to monitor the current situation of that area. We also implore all our European neighbors to seek first all avenues of diplomatic courses before military intervention is used. After all, the people of Europe have seen enough warfare in this generation to last many generations to come and nations that have already proven themselves quick to use military force have troubled the Empire and its hope for a peaceful Europe. -Prince Nikolay Orlov, Foreign Affairs Minister On Behalf of Tsar Alexei Paulovich Romanov II, By the Grace of God, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias Edited by NRE, Jan 15 2010, 10:42 PM.
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| Sedulius | Jan 15 2010, 10:53 PM Post #6 |
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Official Statement from Ireland It is the belief of the Parliament and the High King that if the Belgian people wish to be part of the Colognian Pope's sovereignty, then they should be free to do so. Polls should be taken to see the position of the Belgian populace. OOC: EDIT: Edited statement because of Kas's below OOC comment. Edited by Sedulius, Jan 16 2010, 06:51 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Jan 16 2010, 02:00 PM Post #7 |
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OOC- Uh guys, the Kasnyians no longer maintain their protectorate over Cologne. The Pope has sovereign power. IC- Statement to Porcu- The people of the Low Countries do not recognize any legitimacy of the statements from the Gasselist quislings of the Porcuian Republic, and will defend its interests. Statement to Huesca and Navarra- Stay to your Iberia and we will stay to our Low Countries. Statement to Scotland- This business does not concern you. -------- Soon, the Colognian Guards quietly moved in with little fanfare. Sweets were passed to the children, flowers to the women, and beer to the men. "Soon the Belgians shall be united once more, under the Catholic Church, free from borders and material divisions." was the message being broadcast. |
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| Porcu | Jan 16 2010, 03:01 PM Post #8 |
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Official Communiqué The Republic of Porcu is deeply disturbed by the lack of respect shown towards Belgian self-determination by the disgusting Papacy of Cologne. The statement regarding Porcu as "Gasselist quislings" completely misrepresents my country's history and is nothing short of utter nonsense. Stockholm echos the messages sent by the governments of Huesca and Navarra, Great Britain and Ireland, and will view this annexation as legitimate only when a fair and free local referendum is held. The Belgian people must be given a voice. I call upon the members of the European community to stand up with Porcu against Colognian aggression. Richard M. Nixon President of the Republic of Porcu |
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| Telosan | Jan 17 2010, 12:01 AM Post #9 |
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The Republic of Venice opposes this conquest. France, a leader of democracy in the world has fallen, but democracy has not. It stands to us smaller republics to defend the people of our fallen precedent. |
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| Menhad | Jan 17 2010, 12:11 AM Post #10 |
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Statement from the Teutonic Order These heretical fools are seeking to expanded their corrupt beliefs, and since no one believes their lies, they have resorted to violence. There will be a time and a place for them. Hochmeister Hermann von Jungingen |
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| Kasnyia | Jan 17 2010, 12:22 AM Post #11 |
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Neither Cologne nor its former benefactors, Kasnyia have bothered in any of your current politics. If none of you have the decency to mind your bussiness, the Church will readily take up arms to defend the people of Belgium. |
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| Toussaint | Jan 17 2010, 03:14 AM Post #12 |
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Official Statement from Lord Henry Wotton, First Minister of the Kingdom of Great Britain The war mongering of the false papacy does little to expand its credibility. I am glad that my warnings do not bother you personally- however, do not let the people of Wallonia be punished for this happening. British armies are just as ready to halt this movement as you are to execute it. Let it be known that should a single bureaucrat or soldier of the Colognian Papacy enter the territory. In 1914, Britain entered a great conflict to defend the sovereignty of Belgium against invaders. IN the present, the stance is no different. Back down, or there will be consequences. |
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| Alberto | Jan 17 2010, 03:34 AM Post #13 |
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Ministère des Affaires Etrangéres The Republic of France finds itself in the obligation of not recognising this expansion, we will be watching the evolutions of this event but will abstain of any drastic action . We believe that another conflict in Europe should be avoid, what we ask is however that the citizens of Wallonia who want to join France be allowed to do so . |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 17 2010, 04:35 AM Post #14 |
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Semi-encrypted message To: The Provisional Government of the Republic of France From: Prince Jerome of Morbihan Sirs, I propose a military alliance between the Provisional Government and Morbihan, to oppose the Colognian expansion into Wallonia and to partition Wallonia among ourselves. Prince Jerome |
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| Kasnyia | Jan 17 2010, 12:15 PM Post #15 |
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The only war mongering is from you all. The only forces Cologne sends are border guards. There is no resistance to the take over, especially when the previous government vacated the territory in a bid to save itself. |
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| Union | Jan 17 2010, 12:20 PM Post #16 |
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Why does a Pope need more terrestrial power? Their realm is a spiritual, not physical one. Huesca will military oppose any efforts of the anti-Pope to annex more territory. It is currently in the process of mobilizing its armed forces, in response to the expansionist efforts of Cologne, and should the people of Wallonia be witness to even a single Kasnyian-funded boot ((and this is an overt reference to the status of Cologne as a "protectorate")) there will be war. |
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| Kasnyia | Jan 17 2010, 12:27 PM Post #17 |
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The nation of Huesca never spoke against Catholic Europe, nor does it argue with its successor state in Hamburg. Your argument holds no ground. Belgium is no one's concern but Belgium's, and they have accepted reunion with their brothers to the north. |
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| Union | Jan 17 2010, 12:33 PM Post #18 |
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We remain proud adherents of the One True Faith, not a bastardization of it. Man is arrogant to believe he can compromise the word of God Himself because of petty geopolitical concerns. Huesca will not permit the Satan in Cologne to enslave peoples physically, even if he already has captured their spirits. You stand alone, on this day. If you want war, then so be it, but when the whole of Europe has united against you, it will be bloody, brief, and, in the end, Cologne will stand defeated. We do not want war, but you will force us to chase it in protection of the freedoms of the European man from the Indian puppetmasters. |
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| Kasnyia | Jan 17 2010, 12:37 PM Post #19 |
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The only war mongering is from you. You want war, the Papacy has its allies ready to destroy whatever you send our way. Stay to your own affairs, everyone wins. Belgium will be united by the will of God answering the prayers of the Belgian people. Further, your continued haranguing over religion is exactly the cause of the strife in Europe today. We are the Church of Peace. You...you serve only the ideals of dictatorship. Not God. |
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| Union | Jan 17 2010, 12:45 PM Post #20 |
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Your only allies are the Mongols who have destroyed Europe once already. You are a disgusting man, to ally yourself with the men who have burned this world, and today pick at the ashes. You have forty-eight hours to withdraw from Wallonia, and recant your imperialist claims. |
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| Toussaint | Jan 17 2010, 12:46 PM Post #21 |
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The peoples of Southern Belgium do not follow the Colognian 'faith.' With the secular nature of his papacy's government, it is unlikely that the Colognian claim that the Walloon people are content with this annexation is absurd and offensive. The Colognians are overstepping their jurisdiction here, and they ought to be kept in check. His Papacy mentions Catholic Europe, and the Genesian conquests that established that country- and I agree, those were wrong. However, my Britain did not exist to see to it the state fell, nor did it exist to prosper alongside with it. As such, its mention is irrelevant to my country. In bringing it up, however, it seems you recognize that the policies of Catholic Europe were unjust- that is, expanding a theocracy across the European Continent. If you yourself recognize these policies to be unneeded, then why would you yourself pursue them? His Papacy mentions Hamburg-Bremen, however it is worth mentioning that the Genesian Pope who occupies that land holds little jurisdiction beyond those cities, and has not yet attempted to expand his borders. It would be a most acceptable end to this conflict if the Genesian Pope relinquished control over the majority of his empire, and instead cut back to just the city of Cologne. It is unbecoming of a supposed Holy Man to pursue such blatantly imperialist policies. Justify the church's need for such territory, and perhaps Great Britain will not oppose you so starkly. If, however, the response is continued war mongering and attempted threats, the Colognian Papacy will find itself crushed and maimed. |
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| Kasnyia | Jan 17 2010, 12:50 PM Post #22 |
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When Europe believes the whims of a madman such as yourself, who actually gives false history. The nations of Europe know that I stood alongside them when the evils of the Dominion encroached. I was on the frontlines defending the refugees who fled from Gassel's occupation. You have no argument, you have no reasoning. You merely wish to replace Gassel's regime with yourself. Belgium is already being integrated. The people are rejoicing and you will not take this away from them. The Papacy's own allies are on their way to defend the Belgian people. OOC- I have no intention of fighting a war. I do not have the time. And I know the only reason you are opposing it is for the sake of opposing it, so if you want to RP something, PM me and we will work something out. But not war. EDIT- IC- We do not reunifiy thej Belgians because of faith, but because of culture. The Belgians of the north wish to be united with their brothers in the south, regardless of the fact that they are not Colognian. This is especially so with the collapse of France. The Government of the Pope simply wishes to accede to their demands. Edited by Kasnyia, Jan 17 2010, 12:52 PM.
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| Union | Jan 17 2010, 12:58 PM Post #23 |
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OOC: If you do not want war, stand down. You have ZERO support for your expansion. A claim does not magically give you the territory, and it has never been this way. I am not opposing for the sake of it, but because I am, OOC, tired of these constant expansions by almost everyone who seem to have forgotten that the name of the game is not territory. ----- IC: The countries of Flanders and Wallonia are so unlike one another that using the colonial term, Belgium, remnant from Porcu's own imperialist apsiritions on the territory, is dreadful. The "Belgians" on the south are culturally and linguistically distinct from those to the "north". Let those who speak French remain with the French government, and let those who speak Dutch remain united as they are. Seek no war, and you will receive none. Continue on this path of imperialism, and there can only be on result. Edited by Union, Jan 17 2010, 01:01 PM.
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| Toussaint | Jan 17 2010, 01:04 PM Post #24 |
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This argument is quite humorous, considering the Belgian national identity is shaky at best, non-existent in actuality. In the Since it's founding in the 19th century, Belgium has been plagued by constitutional crisis. Even in the 20th century, relations between the Flemish and the Wolloons- who do not share a language, religion, nor any other pretext indicating a common culture- have fallen apart, bringing the country time and time again into the question- 'why are we a country?' The Flemish are closely related to the Dutch- whom the Colognians master already. The Unification of those Low Countries is acceptable. However, Wallonia is more connected with France than any other nation- and seeing as a new French Government has established itself in Paris, why can't their common ancestors take up the slack and govern the territory? Furthermore, if the Pope was so certain about Belgian identity being a factor strong enough to bring the two opposing cultures into Union, why stop there? Belgian Independence should be a goal put forth by the Pope, if he is really a bulwark for Belgian rights, as he claims. OOC: Kasnyia, it has always been my understanding that if you seek to expand, you need to accept the consequences. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 17 2010, 01:05 PM Post #25 |
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"There is no natural brotherhood between the Wallons in the south and the Flemands in the north. I reject the excuses made by the Colognian Pope." --Prince Jerome OOC: The usual guideline indicates sufficient IC opposition to an expansion will prevent that expansion. I don't think PM's are absolutely necessary at this point yet. |
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