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Unity of the Empires
Topic Started: Dec 14 2009, 02:45 AM (326 Views)
Sedulius
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Since no one is roleplaying the Holy Roman Empire, I'd like to have part of it. If the rules permit, I would like to make a unity of the Empires, as there has been a unity of the Churches. This would, of course, be entirely roleplayed. This would also give me a great edge against the Turks.

I think it would be best to seal such a unity with the marriage of one Emperor's son to the other's daughter.

As I said, if the rules permit. I am entitled to much more land.
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Telosan
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A unity of the two most famous empires of the time would take some fun away from the game, in my opinion. The HRE is a collection of nations to the point that if the emperor tried to ally with the Byzantines, their age old rival, the empire would likely fall apart of kill the emperor. I would prefer to see them separate.

Of course, this is just my opinion. I'd say put a poll up.
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Rhadamanthus
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The German princes would never suffer the stort of power that the Byzantine emperor was used to wielding over his domains. I think this is unlikely, though not out of the question.
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Sedulius
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The RP is less fun without a Holy Roman Emperor, which is more or less the current state of things. I wouldn't gain the whole Empire, so the princes' disloyalty would be reflected.

At first, the Emperor's would rule their respective part, sending aid to the other as needed. Not much would change, other than the Empire would be closer to being one entity. With the marriage of one's daughter to the other's son, the influences of both nations come into each other. Their son would be one half-German, half-Greek, someone all would be willing to show loyalty to.

Yes, it's unlikely, but I'd rather do this and get a war going then sit around wondering who's going to be what.
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Sedulius
Dec 14 2009, 06:53 PM
Their son would be one half-German, half-Greek, someone all would be willing to show loyalty to.
Or someone nobody would be willing to show loyalty to. =P
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Sedulius
Dec 14 2009, 02:45 AM
Since no one is roleplaying the Holy Roman Empire, I'd like to have part of it. If the rules permit, I would like to make a unity of the Empires, as there has been a unity of the Churches. This would, of course, be entirely roleplayed. This would also give me a great edge against the Turks.
You'd be obligated your to divide your forces between Germany and Constantinople, weakening your defense of the city.
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Rhadamanthus
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Actually, while I'm still probably going to play Aragon for a little while, I have a strong interest in playing some of the German states in the HRE. I want to RP Ostsiedlung in the east.
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Sed, you just gave m,e the greatest idea ever.
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Sedulius
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Dec 15 2009, 08:04 PM
Sedulius
Dec 14 2009, 02:45 AM
Since no one is roleplaying the Holy Roman Empire, I'd like to have part of it. If the rules permit, I would like to make a unity of the Empires, as there has been a unity of the Churches. This would, of course, be entirely roleplayed. This would also give me a great edge against the Turks.
You'd be obligated your to divide your forces between Germany and Constantinople, weakening your defense of the city.
Only if you're thinking by the tactical game rules.

I always intended for the city to be as weakly defended as it was, but a German relief force could make all the difference.
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Telosan
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How about a Venetian relief force that arrived a few days earlier than it really did?

EDIT: The HRE, being a collection of states, should not be under the control of any one person. Sure, you can take an individual state, but not the whole thing. For allegiances, you are unlikely to ever get one of them to agree, so at best you might manage to gain 2 or 3 of the states to your side. You can make a treaty, but the HRE states would be treated as NPCs unless you conquer them.
Edited by Telosan, Dec 16 2009, 03:21 PM.
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Sedulius
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Okay, forget about this. If there is general opposition against such a thing, then I would not want it anyways. So that is fine. That was essentially the purpose of this thread, to gauge opposition on such a move.
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