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| Topic Started: Nov 22 2009, 04:56 PM (1,114 Views) | |
| Aelius | Feb 26 2010, 11:43 PM Post #26 |
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Ditto for OU. I think that's the way it is at most American universities. |
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| Al Araam | Feb 28 2010, 12:15 PM Post #27 |
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6000 level courses are meant for graduate students here. 5000 level is meant for seniors. I don't know exactly why freshman through junior level courses need four different designations, but that's probably why I don't design systems for organizing college courses.
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| Rhadamanthus | Feb 28 2010, 01:17 PM Post #28 |
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When I was an undergrad we had systems in the 100s, not the 1000s. I think that grad courses would go to something like the 600s, maybe a bit higher. |
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| Telosan | Mar 1 2010, 05:42 PM Post #29 |
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Alright, my thesis statement has been approved and I now have to submit a minimum of 5 sources that I am likely to use. Problem is, I'm not allowed to use the internet. My poor classmates might actually have to use the *gasp* library! Any suggested books on terrorism and/or the actions of the SoL? |
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| New Harumf | Mar 2 2010, 09:22 AM Post #30 |
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Hit a Jr. college library. They generally have a database engine where you can search "Terrorism" and "Sons of Liberty" in the same search and get references of all books containing references to both. If you can't do this, I could use my college's database and see what I come up with. Second, there are new biographies of both Ben Franklin (likely the founder of the Sons of Liberty) and John Adams on the shelves right now. Check out their indexes. Probably the hardest thing you will have to prove is how an organization such as the Sons of Liberty, who, at the time of their founding, still considered themselves loyal subjects of the Crown, and an organization which wanted to kill no one, could be considered terrorist by today's standards. Read up on how the militias in Mass. were founded, and by whom. |
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| Telosan | Mar 2 2010, 03:30 PM Post #31 |
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What's the difference between a Jr. college library and a regular one? I have my school library and the town library. I'm sure there's more, but I haven't seen them. If you could look when you have time, it'd be appreciated. I only need 5 sources, but any extra would help. Do you know the titles of those biographies? I'll have to order them, my library never gets new books until there is a request for them. |
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| Telosan | Mar 4 2010, 04:46 PM Post #32 |
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Submitting my sources tomorrow. The list I give the teacher does not have to be final and I can get more sources at any point. So, I spent 4 hours or so at the library yesterday and found nothing, at all, that talked about the Sons of Liberty. I saw a few books that mentioned them, but never gave any detail. Only one book actually alluded to the Sons of Liberty being involved in the Boston Tea Party. Two librarians were unable to help me find a book that detailed the Sons of Liberty. This is going to be alot more difficult than I thought. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 4 2010, 07:04 PM Post #33 |
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I think that this is their official website. |
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| Telosan | Mar 4 2010, 07:31 PM Post #34 |
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:rolleyes: I'm not allowed to use internet sources. |
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| Aelius | Mar 5 2010, 09:48 PM Post #35 |
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Look on their site for print versions of their sources. Or, just use Wikipedia and steal the literary citations. :lol: |
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| New Harumf | Mar 8 2010, 05:34 PM Post #36 |
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11.The revolutionary gospel according to Samuel Adams: how a leader of the Sons of Liberty turned the patriot cause into a divine mission. Stoll, Ira. American History (1076-8866) 1 Dec 2008. Vol.43,Iss.5;p.42(6) Source: Expanded Academic ASAP Show In Clusters | 3 Duplicate Records 2.
7.A tenuous alliance : Hawk, Donald L. 1993.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters n of their tactics and goals / Dinan, Thomas E. 1972.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters 9.The role of the Sons of Liberty in Savannah, Georgia, 1765-1776. Talen, Timothy Louis. 1972.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters 10.The Boston Sons of Liberty 1765-1773 : Soloff, Ruth Elyse,. 1963.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters 11.The Sons of Liberty and the aristocracy in New York politics, 1765-1790 / Champagne, Roger J. 1960.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters | 5 Duplicate Records 12.The role of the Sons of Liberty in the pre-American revolutionary era / Nail, Lillian Stroud. 1956.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters 13.Charleston's Sons of Liberty : Walsh, Richard,. 1954.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters | 1 Duplicate Records 14.The Sons of Liberty in the southern colonies. Morson, Pearl. 1941.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters 15.The Sons of Liberty and the revolutionary movement in New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut. Ellis, Lewis Ethan. 1924.. Source: WorldCat Dissertations and Theses Show In Clusters | 1 Duplicate Records |
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| Telosan | Mar 9 2010, 05:02 PM Post #37 |
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Thanks, I'll order these from my library tomorrow. |
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| New Harumf | Mar 13 2010, 03:49 PM Post #38 |
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Found this in our Library database today. It has two chapters on the Sons of Liberty and contains original columns and letters to the editor from Newspapers, 1764 to 1775 that both attack them and defend them. Great stuff!! Title: Debating the Issues in Colonial Newspapers : Primary Documents On Events of the Period Author: Copeland, David A. Publication: Westport, Conn. Praeger, 2000. eBook ISBN: 9780313007262 ISBN: 9780313309823 Subject: United States--History--Colonial period, ca. 1600-1775--Sources. United States--Politics and government--To 1775--Sources. United States--Politics and government--To 1775--Public opinion. Public opinion--United States--History--17th century--Sources. Public opinion--United States--History--18th century--Sources. American newspapers--Abstracts. Language: English |
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| Telosan | Mar 13 2010, 05:57 PM Post #39 |
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That's actually the only book on the Sons of Liberty my library claimed to have. I already have it checked out. It's an interesting read, if only I didn't have to ruin the experience by quoting every 4th line. |
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| Telosan | Mar 17 2010, 07:24 PM Post #40 |
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:furious: Two weeks ago today, I put the order in for those books you suggested. I was told it would take two weeks for them to arrive. I checked today, and they were not in yet. About 5 minutes ago, I received a call from the librarian stating that these books are not available to any library in the US. Guess what else? Placing the orders for those books used up all my allotted book order forms for the year, regardless pf the fact that I can't get them. I'm now stuck to the "Debating the Issues in Colonial Newspapers" book and ONE encyclopedia on the American Revolution that I can't take from the library. Not that I would want to, since it only has 2 articles mentioning the Sons of Liberty, only one of which focuses on them. I hate not being allowed to use the internet... |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Mar 17 2010, 08:01 PM Post #41 |
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Do any of those or other relevant books show up on Google Books? |
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| Telosan | Mar 17 2010, 08:35 PM Post #42 |
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I haven't found them yet. The instructions are unclear as to whether books through the internet are usable. I'd say yes, but my school is so retarded, it's safer to not make any assumptions. ~~~~~ Speaking of "retarded", my school district has joined the campaign against the "r-word". The use of the word is punishable by detention. Repeated use can lead to suspension. All students were required to write an essay on one of the two following topics: How does the r-word affect people with mental handicap? How does the r-word affect people who have been affected directly and indirectly by mental disability? I wrote about the second topic. I take pride in my ability to write bullshit essays on absolutely nothing, considering that I'm the only one who managed to type a full page, whereas most couldn't fill a page with larger fonts and double spacing. The essays will be given to the school's superintendent. We were also required to take the pledge which reads as follows: I pledge and support the elimination of the derogatory use of the r-word from everyday speech and promote the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual disabilities. The only way I've been able to describe this stupid idea? Yep, it's retarded. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 17 2010, 08:36 PM Post #43 |
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Books on American revolutionary history are not available from any library in the US? Guess what Telosan, your librarian is *lying* to you. |
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| Al Araam | Mar 17 2010, 10:13 PM Post #44 |
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I can't say I sympathize with the school district, really. My friends and I throw around a dancing plethora of racial and ethnic slurs, among other things, as terms of endearment. I'm sorry if the use of words generally felt to be offensive rubs some of the dinosaurs the wrong way, but the use of any words between consenting assault is nobody else's business. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Mar 18 2010, 01:52 AM Post #45 |
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Have you ever used racial or ethnic slurs outside of terms of endearment though? Experts agree that's the best context to use a racial or ethnic slur. (Reading from a work of literature doesn't count, of course.) Funnily enough, Johnny Knoxville (of Jackass fame) does not use the "r-word" since he is a champion of retard causes and was involved in the movie "The Ringer," about the Special Olympics. I personally observe a ban on the N-word, and I tend to use many other words sparingly too - including retarded - though that is out of personal habit rather than high-falutin principle. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Mar 18 2010, 01:55 AM.
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| New Harumf | Mar 18 2010, 08:29 AM Post #46 |
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I tend to not use certain words to avoid a punch in the nose - er, I mean, to avoid insulting people. One thing I have been hearing a lot lately is "pinky" when referring to a white person. Now, some congressman referred to the Dem's attempt to pass the health care bill as a "komakazee" attempt; now, some Japanese congressman is demanding an apology! What is the world coming to?? I got my Census form yesterday and was very insulted by one item - it asks my race, and lists: White Black Japanese Chinese Korean Vietnamese Thi ...and on and on in Asia. Now, if East Asians can be narrowed down to such a small level, why not European People?? Why not Italian, Spanish, French, English, Scottish, Irish, Polish, Norwegian ... etc?? Also, I am NOT white, I am an interesting shade of pale beige with pinkish highlights, ergo, I filled out the "Other" and wrote in "Scottish". This is just getting silly. Telo, Go to a library with a really good on-line search facility where you can actually bring up the text of the books you look up, which is what we have here at the Junior College. Then you can print the pages that interest you, and the bibliography information right from the tool. How can they charge you for a book credit when they never got you the book?? |
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| Telosan | Mar 18 2010, 02:23 PM Post #47 |
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The only way for me to get the books online is to pay for a subscription on one of the various e-book websites. My library has no subscriptions for any of these because, I'm guessing, they think if there are physical books there, why do you need a virtual one? It counted as book credit because they ordered them without checking if they were available. I'm not sure how the whole system works. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 18 2010, 02:34 PM Post #48 |
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Sounds like it doesn't work. In fact, I can see why your school is so sensitive about the word "retard." BTW, I would suggest using the word "'tard" as a suitable substitute. |
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| New Harumf | Mar 18 2010, 02:38 PM Post #49 |
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;) Moron, moroon, short-buser, bat-shit mo-fo, retread - all work well. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Mar 21 2010, 09:22 PM Post #50 |
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I was called the n-word once, while walking down a sidewalk. I responded by giving the other guy the finger, but then he started toward me looking for a fight so I was compelled to pull out a switchblade that I conveniently had on me. Never underestimate the intimidation factor of the "click" of a switchblade. Still, there were too many witnesses (dining "al fresca") , and there was a squad car approaching from the distance, so the principals scattered. Technically the other guy started it, both physically and verbally. That was the closest I've ever been to a fight, and I'm scrawny and not a good fighter like Telosan, so I'm not keen on getting into fist fights. However, there was somewhat less apprehension about getting involved with a knifing or a shooting. John Moses Browning looks over the skrawny guys. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Mar 21 2010, 11:16 PM.
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