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| Topic Started: Nov 3 2009, 09:09 PM (520 Views) | |
| East Anarx | Nov 4 2009, 11:00 PM Post #26 |
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America has been under a fascist regime for thrice twenty years and then some. The subtler fascists won the "second world war," but they were fascists all the same. Obama is a fascist, just like Bush, but with more melanin. He'll perpetuate the same evil system, the same wars, and continue in the same direction: more state control, more centralization of power and wealth in the hands of the ruling class, and more parasitism on the productive class of society. "His attempt to reform the healthcare system" is a thinly veiled attempt to seize even more control of the health care industry for the state and it's corporatist allies. Educate yourself: Obama is just as bad as Bush, and in terms of the success of his cult of personality, far more dangerous. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 4 2009, 11:02 PM Post #27 |
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Obama's fascism is more insidious than, and just as damaging as, Mussolini's fascism. Obama's subtlety is what makes him even more dangerous than his ideological forebears - Obama has successfully convinced the world's people that fascism is not fascism. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Nov 4 2009, 11:04 PM.
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| Nag Ehgoeg | Nov 5 2009, 01:41 AM Post #28 |
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They did in the original too I think. **** And TC, Obama has convinced millions that fascism is socialism (why isn't my firefox spell check working?). Hardly a political masterstroke when the government of the US has convinced millions that socialism is the only evil greater than fascism. Of course, he's got the "23 and under" vote locked down tight. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 5 2009, 01:46 AM Post #29 |
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Ok let me get this straight, what do you guys think is Fascism? I've heard so many things tossed around I don't know anymore. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 5 2009, 05:06 AM Post #30 |
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Nag, another propaganda coup is the idea advanced that fascism and socialism are incompatible or even fundamentally different. Atticus: fascism could be defined as the forcible taking of money from the poor and giving it to the rich, while socialism could be defined as the forcible taking of money from the rich and giving it to the poor. Usually, these two processes occur simultaneously within the same system, like the Obama healthcare system which takes money from the well-to-do and spends that money on behalf of the poor at the drugstore owned by a cabal of super-rich pharmaceuticals magnates. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Nov 5 2009, 05:10 AM.
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| Filo | Nov 5 2009, 09:50 AM Post #31 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIKRZfgb_G0 V - vistitors the first serie |
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| Alberto | Nov 5 2009, 12:24 PM Post #32 |
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I think that Fascism is the repression of any ideology and democratic thinking and their substitution with the rule of a restricted groupof people . If Communism and Nazism are ideologies which have their (monstruous) grasp of history, fascism, at least the one of the Italian experience, is totally empty of any higher content than the brute seizing of power and how to keep it . Naturally the opinions about the definition of fascism may be very different from each other |
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| NRE | Nov 5 2009, 12:42 PM Post #33 |
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anything "un-American" and/or un-cool is fascist, duh :P |
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| Aelius | Nov 5 2009, 02:32 PM Post #34 |
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Stop saying sig-worthy things, people! :lol: :furious: |
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| Sedulius | Nov 5 2009, 02:54 PM Post #35 |
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You guys watch TV too much. Read a book. |
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| Draxis | Nov 5 2009, 06:04 PM Post #36 |
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For Atticus. edit: stupid broken link... Edited by Draxis, Nov 5 2009, 06:05 PM.
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| Quaon | Nov 5 2009, 07:23 PM Post #37 |
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Fascism is an ideology that advocates the amalgamation of state and business interests. I specifically don't use fascist in a pejorative sense. |
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| Union | Nov 5 2009, 07:55 PM Post #38 |
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Fascism is an ideology that prioritized class harmony. It is not anything near what TC, in his infinite wisdom, pretends it is. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 5 2009, 08:58 PM Post #39 |
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The Hindu caste system, not fascism, prioritized class harmony. ;) |
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| Union | Nov 5 2009, 09:17 PM Post #40 |
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I was not aware ideology concepts were exclusive. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 5 2009, 09:19 PM Post #41 |
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The caste system was generally voluntary, excluding it from the constant violence and upheaval in a fascist system. |
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| Union | Nov 5 2009, 10:00 PM Post #42 |
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That is irrelevant in every way it is possible to be irrelevant, and many ways yet undevised by man. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 5 2009, 10:11 PM Post #43 |
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Touche.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Nov 5 2009, 10:17 PM.
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| Filo | Nov 6 2009, 08:11 AM Post #44 |
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Fascim teach superiority of an a race or a people over others, under the leadership of a men send by the heaven. May be red of black fasmim but you should not confuse it with socialism. To be precise you should not confuse socialism with Marxism neither. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 10 2009, 01:37 AM Post #45 |
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That is kind of a broad definition. |
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| Union | Nov 10 2009, 02:41 AM Post #46 |
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It emphasized class harmony through rejection of class conflict in favor of national unity and the institution of a meritocratic hierarchy, along with a form of autogestive political democracy, and executive oversight and guidance. |
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| Nag Ehgoeg | Nov 10 2009, 01:50 PM Post #47 |
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I.E. Fascism - it's what we all really want. |
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| Union | Nov 10 2009, 02:18 PM Post #48 |
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But will never realize. :lol: |
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