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V = Critique of Obama?
Topic Started: Nov 3 2009, 09:09 PM (521 Views)
Porcu
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

I think so. I do not watch a lot of TV, certainly less than 5 hours a week, but I happened to be watching the initial results of the local elections around the country when V came on. I liked it. Thoughts, anyone?
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Rhadamanthus
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I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
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Quaon
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I thought so too. The dialogue was laughable and making Morena Baccarin look that creepy is a feat. Interesting show though.
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Porcu
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Haha, sorry. The new primetime series on ABC.
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Menhad
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Thats the feeling I got from the show

referring to the title
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New Harumf
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I really enjoyed it, having been faithfully glued to the TV for the first version 20 years ago. Yes, I see the parallels to Obama, but they aren't playing them up at all, it is ABC after all!

I have also been watching (or at least recording) the Thursday night ABC thingy, about the world loosing conciousness all at once on one day. I forget the name of it, though.
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V was originally a sci-fi miniseries on NBC. My dad says he remembers watching it before I was born. :rolleyes:

At any rate, I doubt it would be a criticism of Obama if the plot hasn't changed since the 1980s. I didn't watch it tonight, though, I was busy trying to make myself start a research paper, so I don't know what it's about.
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

New Harumf
Nov 3 2009, 09:19 PM
Yes, I see the parallels to Obama, but they aren't playing them up at all, it is ABC after all!
Very true. It will be interesting to see if such connections can be drawn from future episodes, but I might actually get into this series if only for the occasional (if unintentional) slap at Obama.

The other series is called Flashforward. The only reason I know that is because of the commercials they ran during the premier of V.
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I've been watching Flashforward too. It's an interesting premise. I've never even heard of V.
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Will watch it on Hulu tomorrow, or next week if it's on a delay, dunno. Flashforward is meh. Had an interesting concept, but hasn't been that good.
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Haven't seen it. Don't watch tv. But from what I've read, it seems to be a critique of nazism. And since Obama is Hitler's ideological heir, it would follow that V could be interpreted as a critique of Obama.
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Esternarx
Nov 4 2009, 01:09 AM
Haven't seen it. Don't watch tv. But from what I've read, it seems to be a critique of nazism. And since Obama is Hitler's ideological heir, it would follow that V could be interpreted as a critique of Obama.
this just might be one of the few things we agree on.
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NRE
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Yeah V is just a remake of an 80's (I believe) mini-series that wasn't that good the first time around but could show promise this time around so long as its not about lizard people coming to earth to eat us. As for a critique, I'm not say its not but it just seems like they would have gotten in put together in a hurry if it was since the man's not even been in office a year.
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Have you see it?

How is it ?
I suppose noit good as older but i'm very...very...very... curious to see it.
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He was in office 11 days and got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, can we not start critiquing him after 11 months? Last nights election showed that already, republicans swept all but one senator race.
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Nov 4 2009, 09:28 AM
He was in office 11 days and got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, can we not start critiquing him after 11 months? Last nights election showed that already, republicans swept all but one senator race.
Yeah, but Americans (if not people in general) tend to very fickle and reactionary. They voted for Obama because they didn't get what they want from the Republican leadership in previous years. Now they're voting the Republicans back in because they haven't gotten what they want so far in this leadership strata. With the exception of reps/senators who have become permanently entrenched in their districts, most incumbents are rarely safe from being voted out by the average, fickle American voter.
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Yeah, but Americans (if not people in general) tend to very fickle and reactionary. They voted for Obama because they didn't get what they want from the Republican leadership in previous years. Now they're voting the Republicans back in because they haven't gotten what they want so far in this leadership strata. With the exception of reps/senators who have become permanently entrenched in their districts, most incumbents are rarely safe from being voted out by the average, fickle American voter.

Do you think that if people don't get what they want from the politicians, then people should vote to keep those politicians in office?
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Nov 4 2009, 02:07 PM.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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V has been remade?

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I can't decide if this is awesome or terrible. My gut says "terrible" BUT that's what it said about BSG.
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Esternarx
Nov 4 2009, 01:09 AM
Haven't seen it. Don't watch tv. But from what I've read, it seems to be a critique of nazism. And since Obama is Hitler's ideological heir, it would follow that V could be interpreted as a critique of Obama.
I don't want to be unpolite, but it is clear that you Americans need your twenty years of FAscist regime to understand what means being Hitler's political heir .
It's true that I am very far from America, but it seems to me that Obama is a decent president, particularly for his attempt to reform the healthcare system .
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Alberto
Nov 4 2009, 03:10 PM
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Nov 4 2009, 01:09 AM
Haven't seen it. Don't watch tv. But from what I've read, it seems to be a critique of nazism. And since Obama is Hitler's ideological heir, it would follow that V could be interpreted as a critique of Obama.
I don't want to be unpolite, but it is clear that you Americans need your twenty years of FAscist regime to understand what means being Hitler's political heir .
It's true that I am very far from America, but it seems to me that Obama is a decent president, particularly for his attempt to reform the healthcare system .
There are a lot of differences between Americans and Europeans, and I don't want to go into that.

But I will say that Americans like their Government smaller, and Obama is going for a European styled Government, and most Americans don't like that.
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He was in office 11 days and got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, can we not start critiquing him after 11 months? Last nights election showed that already, republicans swept all but one senator race.
Except there was no Senate race going on.
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I don't want to be unpolite, but it is clear that you Americans need your twenty years of FAscist regime to understand what means being Hitler's political heir .
Thank you.

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I can't decide if this is awesome or terrible. My gut says "terrible" BUT that's what it said about BSG.

Morena Baccarin is the villain.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Really hot girl... is a man eating space lizard...

I don't know if this is awesome or terrible.
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Nag Ehgoeg
Nov 4 2009, 04:02 PM
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Really hot girl... is a man eating space lizard...

I don't know if this is awesome or terrible.
You have no idea how creepy she looks. Hot creepy, but still.
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Quaon
Nov 4 2009, 04:08 PM
Nag Ehgoeg
Nov 4 2009, 04:02 PM
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Really hot girl... is a man eating space lizard...

I don't know if this is awesome or terrible.
You have no idea how creepy she looks. Hot creepy, but still.
Really, really creepy, and hot! All of the aliens are hot. Someone even observes in character that there are no ugly aliens!

No Robert Englund, but you can't have Freddy Kruger everywhere!!

I do think it will be better than the original, and, hopefully, not so corny.
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Nag Ehgoeg
Nov 4 2009, 04:02 PM
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Really hot girl... is a man eating space lizard...

I don't know if this is awesome or terrible.
Yeah I don't think they're going for the man eating lizards this time, which could be an improve IMO. An with Morena Baccarin hottness very well established its surprising that she hasn't made the list yet.
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