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What motivates you??
Topic Started: Nov 1 2009, 04:08 AM (1,046 Views)
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CLEVELAND ROCKS!
Just curious? Try to keep it somewhat serious... :rolleyes: :lol:
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Ulgania
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The future. Not the near future, not the distant future, but the years after I manage to settle down and build a life.

Also the fact that I know I'll rule the world one day.
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Al Araam
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Personal connections. I don't really know what else you can count on as anything close to constant in this life.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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The Unholy Energies of the Underworld.
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East Anarx
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Love and Liberty.
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The handful of people I love in my life - I do many of the things I do simply to not disappoint them.

Also, I enjoy being admired, especially for my mind. That motivates me greatly.

Finally, personal satisfaction. I can often go against my long-term goals for some short-term satisfaction. I know this is wrong, but I just can't seem to help myself.
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Eleytheria-Duo
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Crushing the dreams of anyone I see as enemies. (E always said I was one of the greatest threats to the free world :lol: )

Or, a more serious answer, although the former is always nice;

Learning anything and everything. I've always believed Knowledge is Power in the hands of people willing to learn and utilize its practical uses. Of course, I suppose that would be relative to what they intend to use that knowledge for, now doesn't it?

My gal also motivates me, her very presence inspires me to excel in whatever I do; If only to please her. And yes, contrary to what some of you may believe, I really do have a heart. :rolleyes:
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Eleytheria-Duo
Nov 1 2009, 04:10 PM
Crushing the dreams of anyone I see as enemies. (E always said I was one of the greatest threats to the free world :lol: )

Or, a more serious answer, although the former is always nice;

Learning anything and everything. I've always believed Knowledge is Power in the hands of people willing to learn and utilize its practical uses. Of course, I suppose that would be relative to what they intend to use that knowledge for, now doesn't it?

My gal also motivates me, her very presence inspires me to excel in whatever I do; If only to please her. And yes, contrary to what some of you may believe, I really do have a heart. :rolleyes:
Yes, you have an heart - and its black as the ace of spades!! :lol:
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Nov 1 2009, 05:21 PM
Yes, you have an heart - and its black as the ace of spades!! :lol:
:whistling: How would you know!? Its not like I keep spare photos of my chest interior laying around the net!
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Tristan da Cunha
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Friends and family, the desire to gain more knowledge and understanding, and songs that have motivational properties.
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Porcu
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Friends and family, as well, for now. Hopefully, a woman in the future.
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Ulgania
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Did I mention Dr. Frankenfurter? That's a pretty legit form of motivation.
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Rhadamanthus
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Ulgania
Nov 1 2009, 08:11 PM
Did I mention Dr. Frankenfurter? That's a pretty legit form of motivation.
:nono:
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Telosan
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I'm motivated by the need to be seen as an equal on intellectual levels and not looked down on by those older than me because of my age. The specific thing here that motivates me is the reaction I get from an adult when I respond to a question or arguement in an intelligent manner and totally refute their arguement beyond salvaging and forcing them to fall back on the old "Because I said so and am an adult" excuse.

I'm also motivated, as ED said, by knowledge. I like to learn, which is incredibly rare these days. I like to learn more about many subjects and just want to know everything there is to know, or at least as much of it as I can find in the 80 (hopefully) some-odd years I'm on this earth.

I like to say I'm motivated by the future as well, hoping things will get better, and the rampant inconsideration and stupidity that permeats the very large majority of the American populace.
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Eleytheria-Duo
Nov 1 2009, 04:10 PM
Crushing the dreams of anyone I see as enemies. (E always said I was one of the greatest threats to the free world :lol: )

Or, a more serious answer, although the former is always nice;

Learning anything and everything. I've always believed Knowledge is Power in the hands of people willing to learn and utilize its practical uses. Of course, I suppose that would be relative to what they intend to use that knowledge for, now doesn't it?

My gal also motivates me, her very presence inspires me to excel in whatever I do; If only to please her. And yes, contrary to what some of you may believe, I really do have a heart. :rolleyes:
I don't recall saying you were a threat to the free world. Either way, you don't seem like much of a threat. You haven't presented a single logical argument in favor of institutionalized coercion, so I'm not too worried about your capacity to foil the anarchist revolution. It will happen whether you try to stop it or not.
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Al Araam
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I wish I could say I was motivated by some hope for the future of our nation or the human race in general, but I think it has become fairly clear that we are what we are. I doubt anything we discover in the next century has much chance of changing that. It's good that you are though. Motivation, wherever it is derived from, is a good thing.
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Al, if I remember correctly, you once considered yourself the "resident authoritarian" or some such. And just now, I noticed that your member title is now "centrist classical liberal," which seems to me to be a remarkable political shift in the direction of libertarianism.

I don't have any evidence other than that, but if your views did shift significantly, then you're not alone. From what I've observed, your shift is just part of a more widespread trend towards receptiveness to libertarian ideas.

Perhaps a reassessment of the forum's political views and a comparison of past positions to current ones would support, or refute, my hypothesis.
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Nov 1 2009, 09:41 PM
Al, if I remember correctly, you once considered yourself the "resident authoritarian" or some such. And just now, I noticed that your member title is now "centrist classical liberal," which seems to me to be a remarkable political shift in the direction of libertarianism.

I don't have any evidence other than that, but if your views did shift significantly, then you're not alone. From what I've observed, your shift is just part of a more widespread trend towards receptiveness to libertarian ideas.

Perhaps a reassessment of the forum's political views and a comparison of past positions to current ones would support, or refute, my hypothesis.
I'm sorry, but you actually think people here are starting to accept your views and ideas! :rolleyes: :lol:
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Nov 1 2009, 09:44 PM
Esternarx
Nov 1 2009, 09:41 PM
Al, if I remember correctly, you once considered yourself the "resident authoritarian" or some such. And just now, I noticed that your member title is now "centrist classical liberal," which seems to me to be a remarkable political shift in the direction of libertarianism.

I don't have any evidence other than that, but if your views did shift significantly, then you're not alone. From what I've observed, your shift is just part of a more widespread trend towards receptiveness to libertarian ideas.

Perhaps a reassessment of the forum's political views and a comparison of past positions to current ones would support, or refute, my hypothesis.
I'm sorry, but you actually think people here are starting to accept your views and ideas! :rolleyes: :lol:
Because your three months here give you more perspective on the forum's changing ideologies?
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Rhadamanthus
Nov 1 2009, 09:51 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 09:44 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 09:41 PM
Al, if I remember correctly, you once considered yourself the "resident authoritarian" or some such. And just now, I noticed that your member title is now "centrist classical liberal," which seems to me to be a remarkable political shift in the direction of libertarianism.

I don't have any evidence other than that, but if your views did shift significantly, then you're not alone. From what I've observed, your shift is just part of a more widespread trend towards receptiveness to libertarian ideas.

Perhaps a reassessment of the forum's political views and a comparison of past positions to current ones would support, or refute, my hypothesis.
I'm sorry, but you actually think people here are starting to accept your views and ideas! :rolleyes: :lol:
Because your three months here give you more perspective on the forum's changing ideologies?
No, because of the many heated arguments that have been started by E. These heated arguments show that people in fact don't support him as much as he thinks. The only one who truly followed him was Anbeknia.
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Nov 1 2009, 09:56 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 09:51 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 09:44 PM
Esternarx
Nov 1 2009, 09:41 PM
Al, if I remember correctly, you once considered yourself the "resident authoritarian" or some such. And just now, I noticed that your member title is now "centrist classical liberal," which seems to me to be a remarkable political shift in the direction of libertarianism.

I don't have any evidence other than that, but if your views did shift significantly, then you're not alone. From what I've observed, your shift is just part of a more widespread trend towards receptiveness to libertarian ideas.

Perhaps a reassessment of the forum's political views and a comparison of past positions to current ones would support, or refute, my hypothesis.
I'm sorry, but you actually think people here are starting to accept your views and ideas! :rolleyes: :lol:
Because your three months here give you more perspective on the forum's changing ideologies?
No, because of the many heated arguments that have been started by E. These heated arguments show that people in fact don't support him as much as he thinks. The only one who truly followed him was Anbeknia.
You're proving my point. He didn't say anything about people following him. If you don't know what opinions people had in the past years and how they've changed, your not really in a position to tell E he is right or wrong about this.
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Nov 1 2009, 09:58 PM.
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Nov 1 2009, 09:56 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 09:51 PM
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Nov 1 2009, 09:44 PM
Esternarx
Nov 1 2009, 09:41 PM
Al, if I remember correctly, you once considered yourself the "resident authoritarian" or some such. And just now, I noticed that your member title is now "centrist classical liberal," which seems to me to be a remarkable political shift in the direction of libertarianism.

I don't have any evidence other than that, but if your views did shift significantly, then you're not alone. From what I've observed, your shift is just part of a more widespread trend towards receptiveness to libertarian ideas.

Perhaps a reassessment of the forum's political views and a comparison of past positions to current ones would support, or refute, my hypothesis.
I'm sorry, but you actually think people here are starting to accept your views and ideas! :rolleyes: :lol:
Because your three months here give you more perspective on the forum's changing ideologies?
No, because of the many heated arguments that have been started by E. These heated arguments show that people in fact don't support him as much as he thinks. The only one who truly followed him was Anbeknia.
You're proving my point. He didn't say anything about people following him. If you don't know what opinions people had in the past years and how they've changed, your not really in a position to tell E he is right or wrong about this.
Are you trying to say that these opinions are for the better, or for the worse?

If they have become more hostile, then yes, I think people may have become slightly more aggressive towards him.

If they have become more sympathetic towards his ideals, then why aren't people supporting him? I sure haven't seen anybody truly defend his perspective or ideas.

I don't need to have been on these forums for that long to know that, all I have to do is a little reading.
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Nov 1 2009, 10:04 PM
Are you trying to say that these opinions are for the better, or for the worse?

If they have become more hostile, then yes, I think people may have become slightly more aggressive towards him.

If they have become more sympathetic towards his ideals, then why aren't people supporting him? I sure haven't seen anybody truly defend his perspective or ideas.

I don't need to have been on these forums for that long to know that, all I have to do is a little reading.
No, that doesn't make any sense at all.

In order to measure change, you need to have a number of data points over time. Esternarx was making a statement about changes over the course of his time in the forum. You are attempting to extrapolate from one data point, the way people react to his opinions in the current period (the last few months). One data point is not a trend. Without studying the prior data, you can't tell how people have changed. Whether they defend or criticize E tells you nothing, because you don't know how much they criticized or defended him before.

Also, he didn't say they were becoming more receptive to him - he said moving toward libertarian ideals. Moving in a libertarian direction doesn't logically require them to become more supportive/less critical of E, because E's views have also changed/developed over the years. Once again, if you were familiar with the data, this would be obvious.
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Nov 1 2009, 10:04 PM
Are you trying to say that these opinions are for the better, or for the worse?

If they have become more hostile, then yes, I think people may have become slightly more aggressive towards him.

If they have become more sympathetic towards his ideals, then why aren't people supporting him? I sure haven't seen anybody truly defend his perspective or ideas.

I don't need to have been on these forums for that long to know that, all I have to do is a little reading.
No, that doesn't make any sense at all.

In order to measure change, you need to have a number of data points over time. Esternarx was making a statement about changes over the course of his time in the forum. You are attempting to extrapolate from one data point, the way people react to his opinions in the current period (the last few months). One data point is not a trend. Without studying the prior data, you can't tell how people have changed. Whether they defend or criticize E tells you nothing, because you don't know how much they criticized or defended him before.

Also, he didn't say they were becoming more receptive to him - he said moving toward libertarian ideals. Moving in a libertarian direction doesn't logically require them to become more supportive/less critical of E, because E's views have also changed/developed over the years. Once again, if you were familiar with the data, this would be obvious.
E is a typical radical libertarian right? So if people are "moving toward libertarian ideals," then doesn't that mean that they would support him, since he is in fact a libertarian? Logically, if you like an ideal, then you support and agree with the people who advertise and display those Ideas.
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