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Mafia XII: Bloodbath in Suwalki, a Prelude to WWII; Self-aligned player wins
Topic Started: Oct 14 2009, 09:08 PM (3,996 Views)
Telosan
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T.O.
Oct 20 2009, 06:31 PM
VOTE FOR ME! VOTE FOR ME! I'M THE ESKIMO SPY!

THE COP SHOULD INVESTIGATE ME TO PROVE IT!

....

Ok really, you guys who said the cop should investigate them are either idiots, want to lose, or are really slippery scum.

I digress....

I've said it before TC is a lose cannon, we can never truly trust him, his votes all seemed based of almost nothing.

BUT

RD is too quite for RD. He is considered one of the AWESOME L33T MAFIA PLAYERS, and normally he likes to point out this and that, but I think him and his Soviet buddy, NH, decided to lay low. I have no idea who the other Soviet is, I doubt all three would adopt the same strategy, but RD and NH are smart enough to work together like that.

Vote: RD
I agree with the first part of this post.

The second part draws a bit of suspicion. Likely just a dead end, but why do you assume RD is Soviet? Are you a Nazi and therefore know he isn't among your allies? Less likely, but still probable, are you Soviet and trying to stab RD in the back to appear town now that Nag seems to be sliding off the hook?

Not unvoting Nag, but Nag is less suspicious since TC's statement is true.

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:angry:

I've exceeded my personal post limit here.
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Rhadamanthus
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Oct 20 2009, 06:31 PM
RD is too quite for RD. He is considered one of the AWESOME L33T MAFIA PLAYERS, and normally he likes to point out this and that, but I think him and his Soviet buddy, NH, decided to lay low. I have no idea who the other Soviet is, I doubt all three would adopt the same strategy, but RD and NH are smart enough to work together like that.
Too quiet? I've posted 19 times, something 6 1/3 times more than you have since the game began. I doubt that more than a few players have posted more than me this whole game. As for "point[ing] out this and that"... um, have you read any of the thread before this? I haven't been "lay[ing] low" at all. I spent all of yesterday arguing with Abnar, and today I've went a couple rounds with Nag. The rest of your post doesn't make any sense because its based on this strange conception you have that I have been "quiet."

You on the other hand have posted 3 times since the game began. That is what laying low looks like.
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Rhadamanthus
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Tristan da Cunha
Oct 20 2009, 06:39 PM
The reason Nag no longer strikes me as mafia is there hasn't been people coming out of the woodwork to defend Nag. This means both mafias are satisfied with the Nag vote.

Unvote: Nag
Good mafia are unlikely to go out of their way to defend Nag. They'd do better to simply build up votes for someone else, while pressing the whole time that Nag is there second choice, or that perhaps he should be investigated instead of immediately executed. Like this, for example:

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That being said, I would rather investigate Nag and lynch Abnar. Abnar simply appears scummier, and his play that we waste an investigation on him seems dubious.


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Rhadamanthus
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Telosan
Oct 20 2009, 07:32 PM
The second part draws a bit of suspicion. Likely just a dead end, but why do you assume RD is Soviet? Are you a Nazi and therefore know he isn't among your allies? Less likely, but still probable, are you Soviet and trying to stab RD in the back to appear town now that Nag seems to be sliding off the hook?
I think its tied to irrational claim that I was somehow working with NH. Of course his whole accusation was tied to an accusation that I have been laying low, which is obviously false, and does draw serious suspicion to Menhad.
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Tristan da Cunha
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Telosan
Oct 20 2009, 07:32 PM
T.O.
Oct 20 2009, 06:31 PM
VOTE FOR ME! VOTE FOR ME! I'M THE ESKIMO SPY!

THE COP SHOULD INVESTIGATE ME TO PROVE IT!

....

Ok really, you guys who said the cop should investigate them are either idiots, want to lose, or are really slippery scum.

I digress....

I've said it before TC is a lose cannon, we can never truly trust him, his votes all seemed based of almost nothing.

BUT

RD is too quite for RD. He is considered one of the AWESOME L33T MAFIA PLAYERS, and normally he likes to point out this and that, but I think him and his Soviet buddy, NH, decided to lay low. I have no idea who the other Soviet is, I doubt all three would adopt the same strategy, but RD and NH are smart enough to work together like that.

Vote: RD
I agree with the first part of this post.

The second part draws a bit of suspicion. Likely just a dead end, but why do you assume RD is Soviet? Are you a Nazi and therefore know he isn't among your allies? Less likely, but still probable, are you Soviet and trying to stab RD in the back to appear town now that Nag seems to be sliding off the hook?

Not unvoting Nag, but Nag is less suspicious since TC's statement is true.

~~~~~

:angry:

I've exceeded my personal post limit here.
I have to agree TO is suspicious here. How does he know every member on the Soviet team and why is he so fixated on the Soviets? Is he himself actually a Soviet and is trying to use reverse psychology to convince us he isn't?
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Tristan da Cunha
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Tristan da Cunha
Oct 20 2009, 06:39 PM
The reason Nag no longer strikes me as mafia is there hasn't been people coming out of the woodwork to defend Nag. This means both mafias are satisfied with the Nag vote.

Unvote: Nag
Good mafia are unlikely to go out of their way to defend Nag. They'd do better to simply build up votes for someone else, while pressing the whole time that Nag is there second choice, or that perhaps he should be investigated instead of immediately executed. Like this, for example:

Huesca
 
That being said, I would rather investigate Nag and lynch Abnar. Abnar simply appears scummier, and his play that we waste an investigation on him seems dubious.


Huesca appears to be motivated by anti-Abnar sentiment more than other factors here. He hasn't followed up with any comments about Nag after his initial comment. A good mafia player would've pressed harder for the Abnar lynch.

I have a gut feeling on this one. I'm changing my vote to Telosan. His self-proclaimed posting limit is very suspicious.

The people currently voting Nag should unvote Nag and change your votes to Telosan. Nag is unlikely to be mafia.

Vote: Telosan
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Oct 20 2009, 09:06 PM.
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flumes
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2 reasons for this vote.
A. Quiet, even by his standards.
B. No one else is voting for him, so the odds are good that he won't be lynched... With as off as I have been lately, not lynching who I vote for is a plus for the town. I need more evidence to vote for someone for the kill...

I will say though, I still don't like Allesandra in this one. Nag is rambling again, but he claims he does that even when innocent...

Vote-Quaon

P.S. Anyone have a good guess for numbers? 7 votes to lynch right... That probably assumes one mafia side would vote for the other side, right?

Edit: I can't spell.
Edited by flumes, Oct 20 2009, 09:22 PM.
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Rhadamanthus
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Tristan da Cunha
Oct 20 2009, 09:01 PM
Rhadamanthus
 
Tristan da Cunha
Oct 20 2009, 06:39 PM
The reason Nag no longer strikes me as mafia is there hasn't been people coming out of the woodwork to defend Nag. This means both mafias are satisfied with the Nag vote.

Unvote: Nag
Good mafia are unlikely to go out of their way to defend Nag. They'd do better to simply build up votes for someone else, while pressing the whole time that Nag is there second choice, or that perhaps he should be investigated instead of immediately executed. Like this, for example:

Huesca
 
That being said, I would rather investigate Nag and lynch Abnar. Abnar simply appears scummier, and his play that we waste an investigation on him seems dubious.


Huesca appears to be motivated by anti-Abnar sentiment more than other factors here. He hasn't followed up with any comments about Nag after his initial comment. A good mafia player would've pressed harder for the Abnar lynch.

I have a gut feeling on this one. I'm changing my vote to Telosan. His self-proclaimed posting limit is very suspicious.

The people currently voting Nag should unvote Nag and change your votes to Telosan. Nag is unlikely to be mafia.

Vote: Telosan
Is Telo purely your gut? If you have a good reationale, than I might place my vote on him, but obviously you can't communicate your gut feelings.
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Tristan da Cunha
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Telo is suspicious for keeping his vote on Nag even though he concedes Nag is not as suspicious. Telo is also suspicious for his so called "personal posting limit", which gives him an out to avoid posting in this thread at all.

We need to remove votes from Nag. Nag is unlikely to be mafia, or we would have heard from his fellows yesterday morning.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Oct 21 2009, 10:37 AM.
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Abnar
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Tristan da Cunha
Oct 21 2009, 10:23 AM
Telo is suspicious for keeping his vote on Nag even though he concedes Nag is not as suspicious. Telo is also suspicious for his so called "personal posting limit", which gives him an out to avoid posting in this thread at all.

We need to remove votes from Nag. Nag is unlikely to be mafia, or we would have heard from his fellows yesterday morning.
Unless you're his fellow. >.>
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Tristan da Cunha
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Nag is a townie. I called it, just like I called Atticus.
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Allesandra
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TC, you keep changing votes. What's the deal with that? Isn't that part of the scummy rules?

Vote: TC
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Rhadamanthus
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Allesandra
Oct 21 2009, 11:20 AM
TC, you keep changing votes. What's the deal with that? Isn't that part of the scummy rules?

Vote: TC
What scummy rules? There are no scummy rules. Scum do whatever they can to look less like scum.
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Allesandra
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I thought there was this whole thing about bandwagoning and changing votes a lot. I was pretty sure that was a rule...
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Rhadamanthus
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Allesandra
Oct 21 2009, 11:31 AM
I thought there was this whole thing about bandwagoning and changing votes a lot. I was pretty sure that was a rule...
A tendency maybe, but how can there be a rule? Who would enforce this rule?
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Tristan da Cunha
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Allesandra
 
I thought there was this whole thing about bandwagoning and changing votes a lot. I was pretty sure that was a rule...

It wasn't.

There's no relation between vote changing and scumminess. If anything, mafiates don't change votes, or they don't vote at all, with the intention of avoiding suspicion.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Oct 21 2009, 11:54 AM.
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East Anarx
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I'd be willing to bet that TO is a spy.

Vote: TO
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Nag Ehgoeg
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TC and RD continue to have an interplay. Interesting.

RD, it is my intent to kill you tonight. Role claim or lynch me because you'll be dead tomorrow if you don't.
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Tristan da Cunha
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RD is not worried. You (Nag) are on schedule to be lynched with 3 votes on your head and all your voters are determined. Even if RD doesn't say a word, you will be lynched.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Plenty of time for that to change.

I deny not the suspiciousness of my behaviour.

I find it interesting to note that Telosan took my vote flipping to be scummy. Even though I flipped between players who had zero votes and no chance of being lynched.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Do it to RD! Do it to RD! Not me! RD! I don't care what you do to him. Tear his face off, strip him to the bones. Not me! RD! Not me!

****

Always the great gamble. Townie dies or kill a random person who might be mafia, might have a useful role. Pity I couldn't aim that with more certainty. Sorry old chum.

Mayor Lynch: RD
Edited by Nag Ehgoeg, Oct 21 2009, 03:59 PM.
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Allesandra
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Can we get a vote count? I've been trying to keep up, but all the changes are throwing me off where we stand. XD.
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Paradise
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End of Day 2

The mayor used his ability. RD is lynched. RD was a Townie.

It is now Night 2 (even night). Players with night roles should PM me as soon as possible to give their instructions.

Night 2 will last until Thursday 6:00 PM EST.
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lebowski2123
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"That's stunning"

:huh:
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Tristan da Cunha
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I have a suggestion that Nights end at 2 PM instead of 6 PM. The suspense is killing me.
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