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Topic Started: Oct 14 2009, 09:15 AM (251 Views)
Sedulius
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I've used Windows pretty much all my life. I like it because I'm used to it. It's familiar.

I used a Mac the other day. I absolutely hated it. No middle mouse or right click? WTF? How am I supposed to open new tabs quickly and easily? How am I supposed to even bring up options? I have to go all the way up to some toolbar to get copy/paste? Mac sucks. I can't see how someone could like.

I'm on a Linux right now. I like it. A lot.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Mac - double click, triple click, shift click. Macs are easy and convienant once you know how to use a one button mouse. Especially mac books: an actual mouse is pretty ergonomic, but you have no idea what a pain in the ass having two buttons on a mousepad is until you go mac (then you're left wondering why the hell windows insists on making you right click to do anything). Just because the shortcuts on a Mac are different, doesn't mean they're not there. OS10 is the shit.

"Linux" - Real informative post there Sed. I'm assuming you mean "Ubuntu 9" rather than "Linux" (seeing as you're a windows user who can't manage a Mac, yet you've jumped right into a Linux OS and find it easy to use). Ubuntu is pretty sexy, waiting on 9.10 before I upgrade. My problem with Linux is that you need to run it side by side with Windows, and have a Windows emulator and have WINE if you want to run mainstream software like the lastest computer games.

Currently using Windows XP. Why? Because it almost plays all the software I want to run - unlike Vista. The OS is a tenth of the practical size of Vista. Uses a quarter of the RAM as Vista. And half of the processor capacity (Vista actually requires five times the processor capacity of XP to run - it just doesn't use five times the processor capacity to run).

Personally, I've always been a fan of DOS. It's a great OS. Still have a Win98 machine because DOS kicks ass and Windows sucks. Microsoft peaked at Win98SE, XP wasn't too much of a downgrade, Vista needs to be Ultimate to be any good (and you still have to tweak it mercilessly to get it to stop sucking), Seven is basically a pre-tweaked Ultimate with features culled from Linux builds and the 360.
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Aelius
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Like Windows. 98 and XP are about the same, but Vista is mostly crap from my experience. (Home Premium) XP 64-bit runs games like a dream but it seems incompatible with every mp3 software in existence.

Despise Macs. They don't run with a normal interface, they can't play games, and they're way too expensive. The journalism school here runs nothing but Mac due to its video/audio editing capabilities and I can't stand it.

Never used Linux.
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Sedulius
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Vista is angering me because it won't run KOTOR II.

Mac angers me because it's horrible for gaming.

Linux... well, you have to know what to do to get the game to work. If you're a computer geek, then great. If not, then you have to find a computer geek to do it for you, or learn to be one. Ahhhhhhhh!

Oh gall.

I suppose a mac is better for the casual, non-gaming computer user. A mac is a gamers nightmare. Need those other mouse buttons!

As far as the Linux OS I was using, I'm not sure, but it was indeed awesome.

I want to look into Amiga. I'm nostalgic for Commodore. I wonder how well it handles games...
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Ulgania
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I'm used to Windows, can manage on a Mac.

Sed, imagine using a Mac forever and coming to Windows and being like "wtf, why does the mouse have so many buttons? What purpose does this serve? Why can't I just __, __, and __!?"

Operating systems that compete are pointless. You're still going to simply use the internet, play some games, do some writing, etc... 99% of the time, unless you need a computer for specific purposes. We could all be doing NSWR on any computer with a web connection and any web browser.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Lansdallius: 98 and XP are basically the same OS. Only 98 is based on DOS while XP is a fully contained "Windows Only" version of 98. For most people, this makes XP "better" because it's easier to use (because it's integrated). I dislike it because it won't play my DOS based software properly.

I'm always pleased when I find someone who likes 98 and XP. :thumbup:
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Sedulius
Oct 14 2009, 12:45 PM
Vista is angering me because it won't run KOTOR II.

Mac angers me because it's horrible for gaming.

Linux... well, you have to know what to do to get the game to work. If you're a computer geek, then great. If not, then you have to find a computer geek to do it for you, or learn to be one. Ahhhhhhhh!

Oh gall.

I suppose a mac is better for the casual, non-gaming computer user. A mac is a gamers nightmare. Need those other mouse buttons!

As far as the Linux OS I was using, I'm not sure, but it was indeed awesome.

I want to look into Amiga. I'm nostalgic for Commodore. I wonder how well it handles games...
KOTOR II on Vista... Let me Google that for you.

Gaming on Mac... Let me Google that for you.
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Sedulius
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Actually, thanks for doing that. I didn't even think about trying some sort of compatibility mode. *facepalm* But jut remembered, I would have googled it if my supercomputer at home actually had internet.

Problem is if I need to download something to fix it, I'm going to need to find something other than these crappy library computers.
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Nag Ehgoeg
Oct 14 2009, 12:21 PM
Personally, I've always been a fan of DOS. It's a great OS. Still have a Win98 machine because DOS kicks ass and Windows sucks. Microsoft peaked at Win98SE, XP wasn't too much of a downgrade, Vista needs to be Ultimate to be any good (and you still have to tweak it mercilessly to get it to stop sucking), Seven is basically a pre-tweaked Ultimate with features culled from Linux builds and the 360.
But in between 98SE and XP came Me, which was an atrocity. XP was a godsend after Me, though I too have an affection for DOS. Vista was useable for me (I have Ultimate, which I got for nothing except a few hours of my time), but I have read again and again that Seven is better than Vista in just about every way, and runs comparably to XP. But I haven't tested it myself yet, so I don't stand by that last clause.
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Let me please you, NE - I prefer 98 because I still have too much with DOS. I have XP on one machine, and keep another old junk with DOS and 98, but I never load 98! Occasionally I can get old DOS stuff to work on XP, but ultimately, it will break or freeze if you play with it long enough. I have a great old CAD package I will not give up in DOS, as well as my composer software that beats anything I have ever seen for windows.
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Sed, did you even try to learn how to use the Mac? Copy/paste/undo/etc. are all the same as on PC, but using the command key/Apple key instead of ctrl; no toolbar neccessary.. Ctrl+click is roughly equivalent to right-click.

Bootcamp is good, Nag, but it only goes so far, especially on a laptop. Hardware compatability was always an issue for me when I was running Windows on my Mac.

The only thing I really have against Mac is that it only allows Finder to make changes to the filesystem. Save dialogues from other programs can't create new folders or rename existing files.
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LOAD "*",8,1
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Sedulius
Oct 14 2009, 01:54 PM
LOAD "*",8,1
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Dosbox is great for running dos based programs.
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I shall descend on this thread with the fury of a thousand suns:
Macs can't play games!!! Not if you buy an Intel Mac. That means any iMac introduced within the last 3 years, Mac Pros, MacBooks, MacBook Pros, and MacBook Airs. These can run Windows XP/Vista/7 natively via a utility called Boot Camp. (I in fact run Windows 7 in a separate partition on my MacBook Pro. It is very fast. It's like dualbooting linux.)

No right click?! WTFKHANNNN!!!!! On MacBooks, you get an option for a two-fingered tap to double as a right-click. On the newer MacBook Pros (with the button embedded in the trackpad) you can set any clicks performed to the right of the trackpad to trigger a right click.

Everyone else: You get the Mighty Mouse, standard.

Anyone not getting the Mighty Mouse can plug in any multi-buttoned USB mouse and OS X will work fine with it.

Where's the copy and paste? Yes, on the toolbar, but as Apple said, lose control, gain command. The Command key replaces control. Control-C/Control-V becomes Command-C/Command-V.

I'm sorry if I come off as a pompous ass with this post, but I felt that needed to be said.

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