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Overall Proposal
Topic Started: Oct 6 2009, 04:04 PM (1,973 Views)
Union
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My vision was to have NPC nations be filled in as necessary - say if Sed invades Anatolia, he would be fighting the Turks. However, others had a different idea, and I guess they want to see NPCs premade, once people have chosen a spot.
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Telosan
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I like the replenishing idea. How long are turns? What if a war starts on Monday, and another starts on Wednesday? I'll have two different turns going on and two different replenishing rates?
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Union
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When both go on to the round after the current one, replenish.

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Menhad
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I'm willing to be NPC nations as needed.
Edited by Menhad, Oct 10 2009, 10:45 PM.
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Toussaint
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I don't know if this has been touched on already, but what unit of time do we use in the IC calculation equation? Years? Months? Days?
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Rhadamanthus
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Months. Though what I want to know is if we round up or round down for partial months.
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flumes
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Can someone check my IC and population #'s?
Population-3,176,091 (10-9-09)
IC-2,964 (10-9-09)
I thought I did them right, but mine came out lower then NH's... I've got a few months on him, so one of us is off.
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New Harumf
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flumes
Oct 11 2009, 03:53 PM
Can someone check my IC and population #'s?
Population-3,176,091 (10-9-09)
IC-2,964 (10-9-09)
I thought I did them right, but mine came out lower then NH's... I've got a few months on him, so one of us is off.
Actually, I was here long before you, but took a hiatus. I joined this forum the same time as Nag, less my three months away. You my varify that with any Mod. If that doesn't count, then I will ajust.
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Oct 11 2009, 04:31 PM
flumes
Oct 11 2009, 03:53 PM
Can someone check my IC and population #'s?
Population-3,176,091 (10-9-09)
IC-2,964 (10-9-09)
I thought I did them right, but mine came out lower then NH's... I've got a few months on him, so one of us is off.
Actually, I was here long before you, but took a hiatus. I joined this forum the same time as Nag, less my three months away. You my varify that with any Mod. If that doesn't count, then I will ajust.
I believe you. I always thought that was the case, actually. I remember you being on the Africa map when I came in... I just assumed I registered here sooner then I thought and didn't actually get on the map for awhile. That all makes sense now though.

Heh, definitely going to need to be a bit carefuller around Gibraltar though then originally planned.. :unsure:
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Rhadamanthus
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Oct 11 2009, 04:31 PM
flumes
Oct 11 2009, 03:53 PM
Can someone check my IC and population #'s?
Population-3,176,091 (10-9-09)
IC-2,964 (10-9-09)
I thought I did them right, but mine came out lower then NH's... I've got a few months on him, so one of us is off.
Actually, I was here long before you, but took a hiatus. I joined this forum the same time as Nag, less my three months away. You my varify that with any Mod. If that doesn't count, then I will ajust.
Wasn't your original member number like "11" or something like that? I know you were there from all my oldest RPs.
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East Anarx
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This is what I got for 45 months, (01/06 - 10/09.)

Pop: 3,099,716

IC: 2,655
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This is what i have for 3 months. :sad:
IC: 470
Population: 1,877,231
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Al Araam
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How will stats derived for NPC? This question has probably been answered, but I've never seen an answer.
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Al Araam
Oct 11 2009, 09:14 PM
How will stats derived for NPC? This question has probably been answered, but I've never seen an answer.
http://s3.zetaboards.com/nationstates/topic/7274650/1/#new

Random number calculator used for NPC's to assign "N" value used by everyone else... Thread above is probably worth a read.
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Al Araam
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Definitely. I'll look through it again. I missed the NPC generation rules the first time through.

Did we ever decide how we're actually handling NPCs? I like the idea of living NPCs, as opposed to NPCs that are just there to provide a little resistance to the expansion of player nations, and I recall a few others supported that idea. But it was controversial.

Either way, I won't be creating a nation of my own, so I will be available as an impartially resolve any conflicts that occur at the invitation of the player(s) involved.
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Yeah, originally, I was 11 on this forum, as "Harumf". I got pissed at CE and scrambled my password, so I was never able to restore that name!
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As I finish writing up the rules over the next few weeks, there is one change I would like to make.

This is the creation of a "GM" position. There would be two GMs, at this time - one would be Al Araam, who would have no other nation but NPC ones. The other would be myself, and I wish to keep the Avignon Papacy, if possible.

Essentially, the position will be very simple. All expansions must first be talked out with a GM. The GM would then organize the NPC state from the get-go, avoiding unilateral claims as seen in the last few days. The GM would also call for Roman papal conclaves, instituting Sed's idea of a rotating Pope among the players.

Any questions?

As I am in midterm season, I am not doing this yet. I do ask all expansion RP be held until the rules can be solidified. My last midterm is October 21, if you guys can wait the week.
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I've accepted the position of GM as previously described by Huesca. I'll be doing what I can to provide a decent challenge to you imperialists. If anyone has novel ideas for NPCs that could fill any current blank areas if they are needed, I'd be most pleased to hear them. Shoot me a PM.

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I believe that instead of being randomly assigned an n-value somewhere between one and fifty, NPC should be assigned an n-value somewhere between one and the highest n-value in play. As things are, the larger nations can almost certainly rest assured that they will walk over any NPC nation, barring extraordinary circumstances. I suppose this may just be a call for more diplomatic maneuvering on my behalf, but I think in the interest of keeping things challenging for everyone it should be considered. That said, either way it turns out I will find a way to keep things fun and challenging for everyone.

Also, as nations cannot be annexed in their entirety, although this was likely not meant to be applied to NPC, there is the opportunity for a true feudal system to emerge as players conquer NPC nations and turn their capital province into a vassal state. I think this would be very interesting, although I would understand if the rules were rewritten to eliminate it.
Edited by Al Araam, Oct 14 2009, 12:15 AM.
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Would it be possible to base N values on estimations of real life historical power?
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Al Araam
Oct 13 2009, 11:53 PM
Also, as nations cannot be annexed in their entirety, although this was likely not meant to be applied to NPC, there is the opportunity for a true feudal system to emerge as players conquer NPC nations and turn their capital province into a vassal state. I think this would be very interesting, although I would understand if the rules were rewritten to eliminate it.
I think that would be very interesting to see play out...
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Oct 14 2009, 01:16 AM
Al Araam
Oct 13 2009, 11:53 PM
Also, as nations cannot be annexed in their entirety, although this was likely not meant to be applied to NPC, there is the opportunity for a true feudal system to emerge as players conquer NPC nations and turn their capital province into a vassal state. I think this would be very interesting, although I would understand if the rules were rewritten to eliminate it.
I think that would be very interesting to see play out...
I'd be all for that.

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Would it be possible to base N values on estimations of real life historical power?
I like this as well, though it might require some research.

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If anyone has novel ideas for NPCs that could fill any current blank areas if they are needed, I'd be most pleased to hear them. Shoot me a PM.
I would really like to see active NPCs. I mean that any existing NPC nations woud act exactly as they did IRL, unless we mess up the timeline. I'd like to see NPCs allying with each other and attacking each other, rather than just existing for the purpose of being attacked. My idea here would be that, for example, a German city-state (NPC) declares war on another German city-state (NPC). PC nations could then step in a make alliances with NPCs and attack others, making a larger world that has plausible reprecussions from your actions. Then the Danes can't conquer half of Germany without expecting a few NPCs to ally and fight back, or maybe even have a PC join the ranks.
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