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ComiCon Gone Wrong!; A very funny idea of a mafia game
Topic Started: Sep 28 2009, 12:22 PM (3,750 Views)
Telosan
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Huesca, declaring roles like that is cheating. Menhad shouldn't have done so, but it's already past. You can drop hints and make references, but I don't think we're allowed to flat out say, "I'm the doctor/vig/cop/etc."
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Huesca
Oct 5 2009, 06:32 PM
Vote: Paradise

I can assure everyone that Paradise is not the vigilante, and that his insinuations that he is are suspect.
I have no intention to give more details to you, however you are seriously mislead.

EDIT: Btw, I am NOT vig.
Edited by Paradise, Oct 5 2009, 07:03 PM.
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Telosan
Oct 5 2009, 06:58 PM
Huesca, declaring roles like that is cheating. Menhad shouldn't have done so, but it's already past. You can drop hints and make references, but I don't think we're allowed to flat out say, "I'm the doctor/vig/cop/etc."
No, you're not. That would kill the whole point of the game.
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Pfft. People can claim whatever they want. You can say I am X I am X, what you cannot do is post your role PM. My proposal was for everyone to declare their role. Double roles get the rope.

However, if the mod says no, then so be it. Twas the perfect play!
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*rips a gravity bong*
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flumes
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Seemed scummy before... Nothing changed.

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Also, the Flumesian School of Scum suggests the silent are guilty... I'll look into that...
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Like Flume's logic.

Vote: Telosan
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lebowski2123
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Well Flumes can you explain your logic? Because like I said I'm a little suspicious of Telo but do you have anything other than going off of past games? Because that kind of logic has gotten TC killed already...

VOTE: Huesca

But I reserve the right to change to Telo if Flumes is particularly persuasive.
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Paradise all but role-claimed my role, and no one finds this suspicious but me?
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Telosan
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NH, Flumes hasn't stated any logic. How can you agree with it?

Huesca, I said it was suspicious, but I don't want to vote quite yet. There are alot of people who haven't said anything in some time or ever said anything at all.
Edited by Telosan, Oct 6 2009, 02:26 PM.
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Vote Count:

Paradise: 2
Telosan: 2
Huesca: 1
Quaon: 1

6 votes are needed to lynch.
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Huesca
Oct 6 2009, 12:54 PM
Paradise all but role-claimed my role, and no one finds this suspicious but me?
Well, since you appear too lazy to read or understand, I will explain it to you.

I wrote that "it meant what it meant" that I "found Nag".

Here's what I mean by "finding Nag":

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Nag Ehgoeg
Oct 2 2009, 08:15 AM
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Oct 2 2009, 03:44 AM
Telosan's vigorousness in trying to deflect votes from Menhad is notable.
TC is the first to vote. He votes for Menhad. Quaon votes Menhad. Leb agrees. All give the same reason - agreeing with TC.

Game of this size, you'd expect three (maybe four, maybe 2) mafia.

But... TC has claimed to be a good guy. That, combined with the fact that people tend to just rape him for no reason, makes me inclined to give TC the benefit of doubt. I'm not happy with it. I'm in no way comfortable with it. It's TC we're talking about here. But he at least deserves a fair shot.

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Menhad was eager to kick things off. Huesca casts the second vote - the first against TC. Telosan jumps straight onto voting for TC. Menhad votes for TC - claiming TC's logic to be faulty.

Again, that's a voting block of three. This block is turned against a player that the town is likely to lynch.

The fact that Telosan is trying to "protect" Menhad is potentially scummy. If he is trying to protect Menhad. (If TC is trying to make it look like there's a connection where there isn't one then it's TC acting scummy.)

But... the town is likely to lynch TC. TC is probably the best mafia player (followed by Paradise). The fact that three people all agree on this doesn't necessarily mean these three people are mafia. It's a strong indication - picking on someone the town would be willing to gang up on - but it's hardly definitive.

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These are two clear voting blocks. That does not mean that one of these groups of players are mafia.

Really, it's too early in the game to say "these players are mafia". It's too early to even say "these players are more likely than not to be mafia".

However, I think that one of these two blocks is more likely to be the mafia than anyone else at this stage.

That's not to say that other players aren't suspicious. Paradise is determined not to lynch. Atticus is flipping to vote for a more likely target. NH is perpetually suspicious. Leb is determinedly quiet. Etc, etc, etc.

Normally I'd wait a while and collect more data before voting, but I'm moving house and might not be able to get online again. Lemme stress this:

I think there are two voting blocks. Either one could be mafia. It's 50:50 in my mind.

I'm really not happy about casting this vote - but the town needs to vote for someone if we're going to win.

So I'm flipping a coin between Menhad and TC.

Please use my logic but remember the choice between Menhad and TC that I'm making is a coin flip. Agreeing with my logic does not mean agreeing with my vote. Wait, watch, read and discuss: because either Menhad or TC might do something that shifts suspicion onto them more.

Vote: TC
This looks like so much the rhetoric I used in a past game, when I was mafiate.

Those who have been mafiates with me know that I like to manipulate information by "uncoordinating" the mafiates' votes. I suspect the "block" theory is nothing more than a way for Nag to exclude himself from the "suspicious" list.

Your coin flip is certainly fake, you clearly chose to vote TC in order to, possibly, protect the other "nominee", namely Menhad.

I'm pretty sure Nag is mafiate, I suggest everyone to vote for Nag.

Unvote: no one
Vote: Nag

I never claimed to be vig. You claim that I did, but I did not.

For obvious reasons, I don't intend to reveal my role.

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EDIT: Telosan doesn't seem to be mafiate. Quaon seems much more suspicious. Although, it's true we lack information to know for sure...
Edited by Paradise, Oct 6 2009, 04:24 PM.
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Oct 6 2009, 08:52 AM
Like Flume's logic.

Vote: Telosan
Something's wrong about that vote. I don't remember NH ever adhering to the flumesian school of logic.

EDIT:

I re-read the whole thread. Here is my suspicious list:
- Quaon (bandwagoned by falling into my poor logic trap)
- NH (followed flumes' twisted logic)

My non-suspicious list:
- Telosan (from a plausible theory I developed and I can't explain right now...)
- Huesca (role-claimed without contestation)
- Menhad (role-claimed without contestation)

No clue (possible targets for night investigation):
- Esternarx
- Lebowski
- Flumes
- Atticus
Edited by Paradise, Oct 6 2009, 04:54 PM.
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No comment? :(
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Here's a comment for ya.

Your suspicion list matches mine. If Huesca's role claim can be trusted, then he's off my suspicion list, and for now I think he's telling the truth. NH would top my list, though, but I'm biased since he voted me. So, I'm going after NH, since it seems more than one person shares my suspicion and it's not so much a reactionary vote.

VOTE: NH
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Telosan
Oct 6 2009, 09:03 PM
Here's a comment for ya.

Your suspicion list matches mine. If Huesca's role claim can be trusted, then he's off my suspicion list, and for now I think he's telling the truth. NH would top my list, though, but I'm biased since he voted me. So, I'm going after NH, since it seems more than one person shares my suspicion and it's not so much a reactionary vote.

VOTE: NH
How convenient.
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Vote Count:

Telosan: 3 (3 needed to lynch)
Paradise: 2
Huesca: 1
Quaon: 1
NH: 1


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Here's a comment for ya.

Your suspicion list matches mine. If Huesca's role claim can be trusted, then he's off my suspicion list, and for now I think he's telling the truth. NH would top my list, though, but I'm biased since he voted me. So, I'm going after NH, since it seems more than one person shares my suspicion and it's not so much a reactionary vote.

VOTE: NH
How convenient.
How's it convenient?

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Vote: Telosan
Explaination? I hate how people vote without stating why! Except, of course, the begining of day 1.
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Although I still think Quaon is suspicious, I believe NH is even more suspicious. It's not his style to follow flumes' logic.

Unvote: Quaon
Vote: NH


I don't understand why people are voting Telosan. What has he done exactly?
Edited by Paradise, Oct 7 2009, 04:04 PM.
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Oct 7 2009, 04:03 PM
I don't understand why people are voting Telosan. What has he done exactly?
This.

NH voting for me for no apparent reason, or a reason I missed, has rammed home my suspicions and my vote remains the same.

Atticus is suspicious for coming in from nowhere and voting without explaination. I've put it down to first game confusion, but haven't completely dismissed it.

Q is still suspicious.
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Maybe, just maybe, I voted with Flumes for the same reason I usually support NE? I like them.

I have a general bad feeling about Telo. That's all I can say, so would the bad guys quit piling on, before I have to pull out a light sabre and slice you all into hams!
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I see. It's true that you have the bad habit of voting with your "feelings", and that often these feelings are completely wrong.

Do you guys think that Atticus is bandwagoning? Maybe he would be a better choice right now...

Unvote: NH
Vote: Atticus


I suggest everyone to vote Atticus for this day. If I'm wrong, just lynch me on day 3.
Edited by Paradise, Oct 7 2009, 06:51 PM.
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When's the day end?

I need to get some votes off me. Atticus may be bandwagoning but, like I said before, he might just be confused. Give him a bit to explain himself.

Not changing my vote till I'm convinced someone else is scummier than the rest.
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