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NS2 and The H
Topic Started: Sep 26 2009, 12:22 PM (2,135 Views)
Union
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Union
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My Complete Proposal

The year will be 1452. A map of Europe, North Africa, and the Levant will be used. This map will show Europe to the Urals, and include the Caucasus, as well as some of the Middle East.

ICs and population will be determined as per the system I proposed.

Units <---Please criticize.

I like this time period a lot, and would like to see an age of exploration type deal to go through as well, with new maps being opened little by little (every six months?), starting with africa and asia, as interest goes. :) I would support the idea of keeping one nation per continent rule, to allow players to RP as both a colonial or european power, and as any NPC nation such as China or whatnot as new regions open up. NPC nations would be given a predetermined IC amount and population, while European nations would be determined through the system, unless a player opts for a "main nation" in Asia/Africa, etc.

At the same time, new technologies such as gunpowder are becoming more common, giving an interesting element.

A lot of us like the entire idea of RPing with monarchies, lineages, and etc, and this was the best time for it.



Edited by Union, Sep 29 2009, 08:28 PM.
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Telosan
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Sold. Every 6 months is a bit too long IMO. Then again, we don't know how long it will actually take for something big to happen.

Can't open the units link.

As for the map, I think the borders of the regions should be darkened and smaller sub-regions drawn in a lighter color within. Then a single battle wouldn't result in the loss of an entire region. There should also be a small sub-region circling everyone's capital when they are picked. I also volunteer to be the mapmaker for this.
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Rhadamanthus
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Actually yeah, that sounds pretty good. Are you thinking real nations in 1452 or still fictional ones?
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lebowski2123
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I'd like to have at least a limited adherence to history, maybe a case where major historical events of the past are intact but fictional characters and events can be thrown into the mix?
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Telosan
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I think both will appear. Some will want to use historical nations (ie: Me, Venice) and others will want to create their own.
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Rhadamanthus
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Well that makes a big difference as to how realistic we can make the interactions, which is why I was curious.
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lebowski2123
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Yeah I definitely would like to see, at the very least, nations grounded in reality. That's not to say that I'm against individuality and all that jazz, but I think it makes for a much better diplomatic RP if every nation is moderately realistic in terms of origins, etc.
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I was planning on using my current nation which is founded as a marriage treaty of peace between the Crimean Tatar Khans and the Russian princes.

Essentially, the first independent Tatar Khan after the Golden Horde staves off military conquest by marrying a Russian noble-woman, and agreeing to give control to the son of the marriage after his death rather than other Tatar nobles.

It can be seen easily in my nation's description thread.

Optimally, I would like to use RL history up to maybe 1350?
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Rhadamanthus
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So RL history til 1350, and then fictional history for the following century or so? That seems like a decent combination. Do you, by chance, have a map of Europe and its peripheral zones at about 1350 so I can see what that gives us to work with?
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I demand fictional nations! Thule was born in 1005 when the queen of Sweden, (Sigrid,) seduced the king of Norway, (Olaf,) and their illegitimate love-child, (Ragnar) inherited both thrones, uniting Scandinavia under a single monarchy. Gradually, Ragnar's policy of free-trade and peace with the radical, Independent-Commonwealthers of Iceland contributed to a cultural evolution towards decentralization and liberty culminating in a social revolution de-legitimizing the entire idea of the nation-state. In the year 1452, Tuuluuwaq the Fisherman, a native Inuit, is the "king" of Free Thule, and spends most of his days ice-fishing in the far north of Greenland in Thule's "official capital city," Tuuluuwaqtom, (population ~ 1.)
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Union
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1346: http://media.photobucket.com/image/map%20of%20europe%201350/WaWAdder/ms1346eura.gif

Should we hold a poll on my proposal specifically?
Edited by Union, Sep 29 2009, 09:38 PM.
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lebowski2123
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On that map would Transylvania fall more into the Hungarian portion or the region of Wallachia (assuming the W represents Wallachia)?
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Union
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Both-ish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Transylvania_location.svg
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lebowski2123
Sep 29 2009, 09:41 PM
On that map would Transylvania fall more into the Hungarian portion or the region of Wallachia (assuming the W represents Wallachia)?
Generally its the eastern part of the Kingdom of Hungary.
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Rhadamanthus
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I think I will play as the Crown of Aragon if we go with this plan. :)
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Al Araam
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Wow. This might actually happen. As I said earlier, I'd be more than happy to run NPCs or help moderate actions or whatever is necessary to keep the game running smoothly. One request though. Will someone please link me to actual rules the H posted, so that I know what I might be getting myself into?
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Toussaint
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This is a very interesting proposal. Me likey. ;)
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Draxis
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As long as I can play as the Sassanids who somehow managed to not completely crumble to the Arabs, and eventually push through into the Levant and possibly into Egypt I will be happy. ^^
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New Harumf
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Well, since I will be loosing my beautiful South American NS2 boys, I would like to play Portugal, please!
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Nag Ehgoeg
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If we're gonna have NPCs, then I'd rather play those than a nation of my own.
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Ulgania
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Looks like I'm losing Ulgania as an entity :lol:

Maybe I'll recreate Novgorod... or do something in Russia
Edited by Ulgania, Sep 30 2009, 11:08 AM.
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Union
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I can write up a more formal set of rules, as in the other guides, including military system and stuff if we have all decided to go through with this. ^^
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I'll be creating a Hungarian/Dacian/Transylvanian type of nation in Eastern Europe, still trying to figure out the specifics
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Sep 29 2009, 09:36 PM
1346: http://media.photobucket.com/image/map%20of%20europe%201350/WaWAdder/ms1346eura.gif

Should we hold a poll on my proposal specifically?
The proposal that time is unaltered at least untill 1350? I'd be fine with this.

Or do you mean the original one below?

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My Complete Proposal

The year will be 1452. A map of Europe, North Africa, and the Levant will be used. This map will show Europe to the Urals, and include the Caucasus, as well as some of the Middle East.

ICs and population will be determined as per the system I proposed.

Units <---Please criticize.

I like this time period a lot, and would like to see an age of exploration type deal to go through as well, with new maps being opened little by little (every six months?), starting with africa and asia, as interest goes. :) I would support the idea of keeping one nation per continent rule, to allow players to RP as both a colonial or european power, and as any NPC nation such as China or whatnot as new regions open up. NPC nations would be given a predetermined IC amount and population, while European nations would be determined through the system, unless a player opts for a "main nation" in Asia/Africa, etc.

At the same time, new technologies such as gunpowder are becoming more common, giving an interesting element.

A lot of us like the entire idea of RPing with monarchies, lineages, and etc, and this was the best time for it.

I'd be alright with this one as well, but I still don't have an opinion on the units yet. I still can't see the units.

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I can write up a more formal set of rules, as in the other guides, including military system and stuff if we have all decided to go through with this.

Sure. There seems to be plenty of interest here to kick it off. I would like to know how population and militaries would be decided since we won't have an actual NS sheet to look at.
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