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College football.
Topic Started: Sep 5 2009, 12:21 PM (1,345 Views)
Rhadamanthus	Nov 10 2011, 08:19 AM Post #101
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Lansdallius Nov 9 2011, 11:38 PM To be fair, Paterno probably had to go at this point, and he really should have done more when he found out about what Sandusky did, but he's being made the fall guy for the entire incident, when it really was a systemic problem that no one person really addressed. He's certainly not blameless, and he probably should have just retired immediately, but he wasn't the only one who could have put a stop to this. It's not just his fault, not by a long shot, but the media's up in a frenzy and demanding blood. He was the head coach. He had the responsibility of command. Authority still comes with responsibility, right?



New Harumf	Nov 10 2011, 09:44 AM Post #102
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Has Joe, or anyone for that matter, apologized to the 7 or 8 (or maybe more) kids raped by Sandusky AFTER JoePa found out about it? No, I don't blame anyone for the rapes before Joe knew except Sandusky, but I think Joe is as guilty as Sandusky for every rape that happened after he knew; but instead, he put his precious football program ahead of those poor abused boys. He should go to jail as a conspirator.



Aelius	Nov 10 2011, 10:26 AM Post #103
Norman Warlord Posts: 2,137 Group: Members Member #523 Joined: July 17, 2009	Rhadamanthus Nov 10 2011, 08:19 AM Lansdallius Nov 9 2011, 11:38 PM To be fair, Paterno probably had to go at this point, and he really should have done more when he found out about what Sandusky did, but he's being made the fall guy for the entire incident, when it really was a systemic problem that no one person really addressed. He's certainly not blameless, and he probably should have just retired immediately, but he wasn't the only one who could have put a stop to this. It's not just his fault, not by a long shot, but the media's up in a frenzy and demanding blood. He was the head coach. He had the responsibility of command. Authority still comes with responsibility, right? Yeah. Paterno should have done more because of what happened, but he didn't actually witness it, that grad assistant did. And that grad assistant didn't pull Sandusky off the poor kid, he didn't call the police. That could have ended right then and there. I'm not saying Paterno is blameless by any stretch of the imagination. He didn't do enough, and I think it would have been the right thing for him to just retire and take the emphasis off of the university's administration, but the blame needs to be applied to everyone responsible, not just the head coach.



flumes	Nov 10 2011, 02:51 PM Post #104
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	Paterno should've at least gotten one more game. He's done a lot of good for this world.



Rhadamanthus	Nov 10 2011, 04:19 PM Post #105
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Lansdallius Nov 10 2011, 10:26 AM Rhadamanthus Nov 10 2011, 08:19 AM Lansdallius Nov 9 2011, 11:38 PM To be fair, Paterno probably had to go at this point, and he really should have done more when he found out about what Sandusky did, but he's being made the fall guy for the entire incident, when it really was a systemic problem that no one person really addressed. He's certainly not blameless, and he probably should have just retired immediately, but he wasn't the only one who could have put a stop to this. It's not just his fault, not by a long shot, but the media's up in a frenzy and demanding blood. He was the head coach. He had the responsibility of command. Authority still comes with responsibility, right? Yeah. Paterno should have done more because of what happened, but he didn't actually witness it, that grad assistant did. And that grad assistant didn't pull Sandusky off the poor kid, he didn't call the police. That could have ended right then and there. I'm not saying Paterno is blameless by any stretch of the imagination. He didn't do enough, and I think it would have been the right thing for him to just retire and take the emphasis off of the university's administration, but the blame needs to be applied to everyone responsible, not just the head coach. Sure, I agree that the GA should be punished and that there are others who should be blamed, not just Paterno. But I don't see the problem with him taking a large share of the blame. Of course, Sandusky is the one who is primarily responsible. But as the head of the program, Paterno is next on the chopping block.



flumes	Nov 10 2011, 04:28 PM Post #106
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	flumes Nov 10 2011, 02:51 PM Paterno should've at least gotten one more game. He's done a lot of good for this world. To expand, I think the MSM jumped on the JoePa train and rode it like they always do. Scapegoat. ESPN is evil.



NRE	Nov 10 2011, 09:00 PM Post #107
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman Posts: 9,266 Group: Admin Member #120 Joined: April 21, 2005	:\| :o This whole thing is apparently (If rumors are true) about to get so much worse. Edited by NRE, Nov 10 2011, 09:01 PM.



Ulgania	Nov 11 2011, 09:16 AM Post #108
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse Posts: 4,041 Group: Members Member #450 Joined: June 3, 2008	My thoughts on the subject are pretty much summed up by last night's edition of The Daily Show



Ulgania	Nov 11 2011, 09:16 AM Post #109
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse Posts: 4,041 Group: Members Member #450 Joined: June 3, 2008	Skip to 18:23 http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-november-10-2011-adam-sandler



Al Araam	Nov 12 2011, 11:48 PM Post #110
Demigod of Death & Inactivity Posts: 3,486 Group: Global Mods Member #102 Joined: February 19, 2005	Lansdallius Nov 6 2011, 08:39 PM I can deal with Alabama ranked above Boise, but Alabama's ranked THIRD, above an undefeated Stanford team??? Problem solved. This is what you wanted, right? Perhaps this thread sucked enough psychic energy from the NSWR community, and achieved sentience, at the very least, possibly godhood. Careful what you wish for.



Aelius	Nov 13 2011, 12:07 AM Post #111
Norman Warlord Posts: 2,137 Group: Members Member #523 Joined: July 17, 2009	As long as LSU-Alabama is not the national title game, I will accept it.



The Authority of the Grand Moff	Nov 13 2011, 01:06 AM Post #112
2nd Lieutenant Posts: 460 Group: Members Member #657 Joined: February 11, 2011	Oklahoma State. Most balanced team in the country that I've seen this season. Excellent offense led by NFL-caliber quarterback, solid bend-but-don't break defense. They look very formidable.



Al Araam	Nov 13 2011, 04:15 AM Post #113
Demigod of Death & Inactivity Posts: 3,486 Group: Global Mods Member #102 Joined: February 19, 2005	I'd love to see an LSU-Oklahoma State championship game.



Aelius	Nov 20 2011, 01:57 AM Post #114
Norman Warlord Posts: 2,137 Group: Members Member #523 Joined: July 17, 2009	So... this weekend happened. At this rate, we'll end up with an LSU-Alabama rematch by default. I hope LSU loses to Arkansas or Georgia so we can justifiably call for the instant death of the BCS.



New Harumf	Nov 20 2011, 09:58 AM Post #115
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Lansdallius Nov 20 2011, 01:57 AM So... this weekend happened. At this rate, we'll end up with an LSU-Alabama rematch by default. I hope LSU loses to Arkansas or Georgia so we can justifiably call for the instant death of the BCS. Oh, that would just be beautiful!



Tristan da Cunha	Nov 21 2011, 06:41 PM Post #116
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	So it looks like Urban Meyer will be headed to Ohio State next season...possibly the second most dramatic plot twist in the last 100 years of college football (second to JoePa's downfall) Florida is trolled hard.



Menhad	Nov 30 2011, 04:56 PM Post #117
ET2(IDW) Posts: 2,681 Group: Veterans Member #143 Joined: May 22, 2005	:dry:



NRE	Nov 30 2011, 05:36 PM Post #118
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman Posts: 9,266 Group: Admin Member #120 Joined: April 21, 2005	Tristan da Cunha Nov 21 2011, 06:41 PM So it looks like Urban Meyer will be headed to Ohio State next season...possibly the second most dramatic plot twist in the last 100 years of college football (second to JoePa's downfall) Florida is trolled hard. I'm interested to see how this turns out. I read an article (somewhere, I'll look for it) where it basically said the buckeyes might not be getting what they're paying for. Basically that it all boils down to Meyer's health.



Menhad	Nov 30 2011, 10:35 PM Post #119
ET2(IDW) Posts: 2,681 Group: Veterans Member #143 Joined: May 22, 2005	I am one of the few Gator fans who thinks Urban Meyer is overrated (He is a good coach/recruiter though, he's just not that awesome) The 2006 and 2008 teams where all recruited my Zook, who is a good recruiter not a good coach (See Illinois, they have some talent, especially in the RB position, just poor performance as a team) Then look at the Stats comparing 2008 to 2009, even though Tebow, Spikes, and many other stars stayed (Percy Harvin was a main one who didn't, since he was a senior), the performance was lackluster, yes they won, but not as awesomely as a team that stack should have. The difference? Dan Mullen took the head coach job at Mississippi St (Which has improved, just not that much). So in conclusion I feel as if Urban's great success at UF is the end result of good timing (Getting all of Zook's recruits just as they started to mature, 22 of 24 starters on the 06 team where Zook's) and a good coaching staff (Dan Mullen and Charlie Strong are both taking traditionally poor teams and improving them). I will give Urban this, he knows how to build a image of confidence, which has a lot to do with a teams success.



New Harumf	Dec 1 2011, 09:23 AM Post #120
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	. . . but Big 10 Coach of the year?? Come on, you can say it! :-)


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