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| Topic Started: Aug 27 2009, 10:43 PM (539 Views) | |
| Telosan | Sep 2 2009, 08:33 PM Post #26 |
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I bought a laptop fan. It's about an inch thick with the same dimensions of the laptop. Put the laptop on it and turn it on when needed. It's great. |
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| Sedulius | Sep 2 2009, 08:57 PM Post #27 |
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Excellent. |
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| Al Araam | Sep 2 2009, 11:59 PM Post #28 |
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For the past year, I've been gaming almost exclusively on my Xbox 360. Probably because my old desktop was a piece of crap that couldn't run anything reliably, and my little VAIO wasn't much for gaming even before it melted itself. Also, laptop fans are generally uncomfortable. Maybe I'm just an oddity in that I like having my laptop on my lap and don't generally appreciate a fan aerating my junk. This week, however, has been devoted to building myself a new computer and I'm now just a pair of video cards short of having a legitimate gaming machine. (I wasn't paying attention and ordered SLI cards for a Crossfire board or else I would be using it already.) I think I'm going to have to get back into PC gaming now though. I can't neglect my new computer. It's just so goddamn purdy. :love: For anyone interested in these types of things, track down a couple decent pictures of an Antec skeleton case down on google. It really is a thing of beauty. |
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| Sedulius | Sep 3 2009, 12:03 AM Post #29 |
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:lol: So damn, going dual ATI cards, huh? Which models? EDIT: There is one major weakness of ATI that is a strength of nVidia. ATI cards don't have PhysX support. nVidia cards do. PhysX is a physics engine used in several games for cloth and general environment destruction. Unreal Engine 3 games (UT3, Turok, Gears, Mass Effect, etc) and Empire: Total War are among such games. The only way to get good PhysX support for ATI cards is to get an PPU (physics processing unit) or a seperate nVidia GPU. That'd be a lot to cram in one computer. Here's the full list of PhysX games: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html Just so you, though, all the games will pretty much still run just fine, but a lot might not have that nice PhysX on. Edited by Sedulius, Sep 3 2009, 12:11 AM.
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| Al Araam | Sep 3 2009, 12:08 AM Post #30 |
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The correct ones will be 2GB Radeon HD 4870s. Should be a good middle to upper-middle gaming machine. Hopefully. |
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| Sedulius | Sep 3 2009, 12:18 AM Post #31 |
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I have same exact card (specifically, the Sapphire VaporX version). I think you're underestimating your machine. That's a kickass card. But you're lucky you said that, because now I can tell you the bad news about that card, and the way to fix it. That card has an inherent problem. It's core clock should be set at 750 MHz. However, for power saving purposes, it stays at 500 MHz so long as you aren't running a 3D application. It is supposed to crank up to 750 MHz for the 3D app, but unfortunately, it instead constantly switches back and forth between the two settings. It can't handle this. and it eventually crashes the game (in my case the whole computer). I would test it all out and see if it happens first. You may be fine. But if it happens, the solution is here: http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Single&catid=260&threadid=100973 It involves downloading an application that forces the cards to stay at 750 MHz. Haven't had one crash on my computer since. I stopped at "step 7". Rather than doing game profiles I just have it set to do that from startup. Spoiler: click to toggle
Edited by Sedulius, Sep 3 2009, 12:24 AM.
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| Al Araam | Sep 3 2009, 12:34 AM Post #32 |
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Excellent. Our cards are truly identical then. The one I ordered was also the Sapphire Vapor-X version. Thank you for the advice. I'll be sure to run through those steps once I get my machine up and running. The point may be moot eventually, as I will likely crank the video cards to a higher clock rate than 750 MHz once I figure out what's what. But I'm sure your tips will save me a lot of time as I get settled in. Edit: I was pleasantly surprised after looking into the information available on overclocking the card. Looks like it overclocks pretty admirably, and also performs well in a Crossfire configuration. I'm interested to see what I can get our of it with a dual Crossfire configuration with the aid of a little CPU and video card overclocking now. Unfortunately, I have to wait another three days on those Crossfire video cards. Edited by Al Araam, Sep 3 2009, 01:01 AM.
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| Nag Ehgoeg | Sep 3 2009, 05:39 AM Post #33 |
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First off, the 360 does not have a 54.2% failure rate. Game Informer surveyed 5000 people online. Who takes more online surveys: satisfied customers or people with axes to grind? Retailers put the failure rate at about 30% including the first couple of defective waves WAY back in 2007. Mickeysoft say the number is closer to 5%. SquareTrade says the latest "Jasper" build has less than a 2% failure rate. Mickeysoft, I do not trust. Square, I do. My 360 is treated like all electronics hardware should be. It's in a ventilated space, plugged into a surge protector, not running pirated software. Works fine. Halo 3 kinda sucks glad I'm not still waiting on that for PC. But Gears and Fable are great. Consoles have a longer shelf life than PCs. It's cheaper to buy new consoles every generation than it is to constantly update your graphics card. Playing online is better with consoles than it is facing off against hax. Posted Image |
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| Sedulius | Sep 3 2009, 08:29 AM Post #34 |
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That's my sentiments right there. :lol: I suppose no matter what way you cut it, PC still has the graphics and flexibility edge. But good argument, Nag. |
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| Abnar | Sep 5 2009, 01:16 AM Post #35 |
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This is why I now have an extra graphcs card. |
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| Sedulius | Sep 5 2009, 01:51 AM Post #36 |
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Yeah, it's a great card once you get past the defect. I was blaming it on Vista before I knew what was what. As far as overclocking goes, Rivatuner effectively takes over that function. Recommend you let Catalyst Control Center autotune the cards before turning Rivatuner on, then set Rivatuner to those clock speeds (rather than 750 and 900). You'll still want to tweak everything else on Catalyst that doesn't have to do with the clocks, of course. (EDIT: My autotune sets the GPU clock to 780MHz and the Memory clock to 1000 MHz. The max you can set them to in Catalyst is 790 and 1100 respectively, so be careful with Rivatuner because it allows the numbers to go higher.) But if you're going dual card, I'd recommend you don't even overclock. Because 1.) You won't really need to. They should handle everything fine on highest graphics since you're going dual (save for high-end PhysX games, like Empire: Total War and Mirror's Edge, which you'll need a PPU for). And 2.) You'll get that much more life out of them. Of course, not much need to worry with a 20 year lifespan at 85 degrees Celsius, but you can never be too safe. EDIT: I also recommend keeping the fan set to 100% speed. Keeps you just around 50 degrees. Drops below when I take the side of my case off. Now how did Nag and my post suddenly appear ahead? I don't remember them being there. Edited by Sedulius, Sep 5 2009, 01:59 AM.
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| Telosan | Sep 6 2009, 12:48 PM Post #37 |
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Just applied to a hardcore pvp guild called Raze. They take 18 year olds and up, but any teen under 18 can apply, they just have to prove they're mature enough. I'll find the link eventually. EDIT: Found it. Edited by Telosan, Sep 6 2009, 12:53 PM.
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| Sedulius | Sep 6 2009, 01:26 PM Post #38 |
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I may or may not make or join a guild. If Dark Legion pops up I'll probably join them, given our history. |
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| Telosan | Sep 6 2009, 10:35 PM Post #39 |
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I had wanted to make my own guild, but my friends insisted on joining this one. I was going to name it after a little known movie and call it Dorkness Rising. Perfect name. |
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| Telosan | Sep 7 2009, 09:02 PM Post #40 |
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Since Star Wars seems to be on everyone's mind, I thought I'd attempt to resurrect the NS Star Wars forum we started at the begining of the year. I dug through the Offtopic to find the original thread. I was hoping we could jump start it again. |
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| Sedulius | Sep 7 2009, 09:57 PM Post #41 |
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It was hard for me to really get into that New Republic era. Problem is, we were somewhat going off of other people's material, somewhat our own. There was no one to be the Empire, yet it was there in all it's glory. The problem is that it's hard to do a "nationstate" roleplay in Star Wars, given that there are usually one or two dominating galactic powers at any given time. With not enough players to split them into factions, it makes it very hard to make fair and balanced gameplay that makes sense. We were practically marking up what territories we wanted to conquer from the Empire and slowly but surely taking them. The New Republic player wasn't around to push forward that part of the plot. The Empire was pretty much all of us at the same time. If we want to get this going again, we need a game system. Rules and regulations. We may even want to consider a different era. We've already written quite a bit, and it would be a shame to just cast it out, but then again we haven't written that much. Perhaps if we really wanted to get it going, people could play as multiple factions, as they do on here. I like playing the Mandalorians, but I don't like being limited to them. I like to switch up every now and then and be Jedi or Sith, or some Grand Army (of the Empire or Republic). That's the brilliance of the Old Republic, I suppose. It allows us to essentially play an era in which the Empire and the Republic actually coexisted. You play through any type of character within Star Wars. But I think it's greatest flaw is its limit to two factions. I'm hoping to see Mandalorians and Crime Syndicates play a major role, rather than just being limited to a side. But, anyways, I'm with you on restarting that forum, but we need to think it over better this time around. I'll draft up some sort of system for people to look over and approve (because I feel like it). I think we should seriously consider switching the era. It needs a vote. But rather than make it that wide selection, it needs to be narrowed done to eras that make sense for nationstate/faction gameplay. For the current era to be sensible for such gameplay, we'd have to jump forward enough that the Empire had mostly fallen, but the New Republic was not yet that strong. And keep the Yuuzong Vong out of it. This is our own material and we don't need some outsider's silly galactic conflict clogging it up. Of course, I'd be in favor of establishing an entirely unique space RP. My head has been bristling with ideas for such a game for years now. I would love to bring about the Centauri Republic, the League of Free Nations, the Imperial Union, the Verrick, the Telnarians, the Robusians, etc. My brother and I created an entire universe, yet it has never been realized. Perhaps I should just start something in the alternate universe forum, and just keep writing until somebody joins me. |
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| Telosan | Sep 8 2009, 03:32 PM Post #42 |
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We do need more people, that was a problem from the start.
Rules are definately needed, we never got around to them. I think we had decided to base it off the NSWR forum rules 'cause we were lazy. I wrote alot. My Faction Description consists of 19 posts! The amount of time I fought with wikipedia/wookiepedia is astonishing!
I had the idea of making my own Jedi order-like organization.
If we were to switch era, I might not lose all the info I posted, just have to update it. While I like our era, I'd be up for a change. I perfer this era mostly because it's the one I read the most. We did keep the Vong out of it, it was a large factor in choosing our current era. I'll be up for jumping to another era, but I'll want to keep my planets. If we go to the time period SWTOR is set in, I could just claim to be a collection of planets that left the Republic when they realized the Republic couldn't protect them anymore and made a truce with the Sith Empire. I'll be keeping all my characters.
I think that's something for the AU, though you may have enough material to devote an entire forum to it. |
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| Sedulius | Sep 8 2009, 04:07 PM Post #43 |
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I have enough material for that to write a series of books. It's an endless sprawling universe waiting to be written. As for Star Wars, I really think we should have each player with multiple factions, as on here. I don't want to limit myself to the Mandos (depending on the era). I think we need to choose a period of time where not much was written, that way we don't have to look up any names of the time, we can just create. Honestly, I think we should take the route of nationstates. We will be in a general time period, but not say exactly when. I think the best eras would be the Old Sith Wars era (5000-3000 BBY), and the post-Empire era. I think that to stay in our era, we should jump forward several decades to get the Empire out of the way and possibly the New Republic out of the way. Were it up to me, I say ignore everything written after the movies and just take what ideas you like. Personally, I want an excuse to RP Fett as Mandalore if we stay in the new era. I'm not particularly attached to my writings. I want to be a conquering Empire, not some goody two-shoes run by a blonde guy. And if no one else will take up defense of the galaxy, Corellia can stand in my way. |
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| Telosan | Sep 8 2009, 04:24 PM Post #44 |
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The only way that could be possible (of course, who says you can't transplant Fett back in time) is if we chose the post Empire era and say someone prolonged his life a few years.
That sounds like a challenge. B) |
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| Sedulius | Sep 8 2009, 05:48 PM Post #45 |
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I'm saying IF we go post-Empire, I'm going to RP Fett as Mandalore. Fett actually does eventually become Mandalore and has his life prolonged in the books, but I don't want to go by the books. I'm just saying if we go post-Empire, we need to go, say, thirty years after the death of the Emperor (and when he died, he died. No clones). I think we could have a very unique shrunken Empire with a new Emperor, which would operate more like a royal dynasty. We could have a small struggling New Republic. We could have a rising Mandalorian threat, and a rising Corellian power. At least four somewhat small factions would make for good gameplay. I think Jedi, Sith, and criminals could be their own factions, but should of course operate within the other factions. Ever played Empire at War: Forces of Corruption? Not a great game, but it has a good concept of how the underworld tends to infect worlds with corruption rather than conquer. We could do something like that. In other words, we would have surface factions and shadow factions. If we get, say, eight players, we should be able to limit each person to one faction. But if we can only get four players, we would each have some influence in these shadow factions. You could even set up subforums for such things. Underworld, Jedi Order, Sith Order, etc. |
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| Telosan | Sep 8 2009, 08:13 PM Post #46 |
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Yeah, no clones. The first clone was an okay idea. Everyone following was worse and worse. Never played it, but have wanted to. My friends have played it. I'll probably have a Sith/lightsaber wielding organization. No one else has expressed interest, are we the only two? |
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| Sedulius | Sep 8 2009, 10:09 PM Post #47 |
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That's hardly enough to get it off the ground. I'll draft those rules when I get the time though. Maybe a new map. EDIT: Perhaps you should start a new thread, since what we're talking about isn't technically the topic of this thread, so people might not be checking it. In any case, I think we need to vote on an era again. Edited by Sedulius, Sep 8 2009, 10:10 PM.
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| Telosan | Sep 30 2009, 02:11 PM Post #48 |
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OMG!!!! It's going to Beta!!!!!! Sign up! |
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| Al Araam | Sep 30 2009, 03:02 PM Post #49 |
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It won't scan my system in either Firefox or Internet Explorer. I submitted a bug report, but for the moment I'm just twiddling my thumbs and waiting for them to get back to me. |
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| Telosan | Sep 30 2009, 03:06 PM Post #50 |
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Same here. I left the scan running though. It's been an hour. :sad: |
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