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| Topic Started: Aug 10 2009, 08:59 PM (1,354 Views) | |
| Quaon | Oct 12 2009, 02:42 PM Post #26 |
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We have these things called reunions and they are fun and such. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Oct 12 2009, 02:46 PM Post #27 |
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Cool... Sounds excellent.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Oct 12 2009, 02:49 PM.
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| Union | Oct 12 2009, 04:49 PM Post #28 |
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I curse my laziness. |
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| Quaon | Oct 12 2009, 06:00 PM Post #29 |
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This statement confuses me. |
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| Union | Oct 12 2009, 06:03 PM Post #30 |
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A lot of opportunities open up to children who take their studies seriously - such as CTY, and etc. I have a high IQ, though this means nothing, and got a near-perfect SAT score on my first try - however, I got through middle and high school with a C average due to my abhorrence for day to day work. This has translated to the real world. I find, even when I try to do otherwise, I continue to do the bare minimum. This will damper future prospects. Thus, I curse my laziness. A man once said there are four types of people: The unintelligent and unambitious. - McDonalds The unintelligent and ambitious. - Congress ;) The intelligent and unambitious. - McDonalds. The intelligent and ambitious. - Rulers of the fucking world. Edited by Union, Oct 12 2009, 06:05 PM.
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| Tristan da Cunha | Oct 12 2009, 06:11 PM Post #31 |
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How does one get into CTY? Is there a secret black ops protocol? Is it limited to people on the East Coast? I got good grades and I never knew about the CTY thing. |
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| Union | Oct 12 2009, 06:12 PM Post #32 |
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I assume the same way you get into any other similar program. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 12 2009, 06:13 PM Post #33 |
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Curse laziness, it plagues me to this day. I'm one of those guys who score abnormally well for the amount of work to do, while others work twice as hard to get the same score. Imagine our potential if we weren't lazy...... |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Oct 12 2009, 06:13 PM Post #34 |
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Ah. I'm not familiar with that as my extracurricular activities were quite weak in high school. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Oct 12 2009, 06:14 PM.
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| Toussaint | Oct 12 2009, 06:16 PM Post #35 |
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Except in anatomy. :rolleyes: I don't work for shit and get pretty much perfect grades. Keeping up the minimum is the way to go. |
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| Union | Oct 12 2009, 06:16 PM Post #36 |
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It works in high school, but you notice very soon it will not work for ever. Showing initiative is key in a job market, and something I am terrible at doing. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Oct 12 2009, 06:21 PM Post #37 |
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So true. I managed to pick up some work skills in college, but they are pretty limited. Schools begged me to apply to their law schools based on my LSAT score, and I'm on a full tuition scholarship here for partially that reason, but now I'm just a mediocre student because I don't have the initiative and study skills other students have. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 12 2009, 06:29 PM Post #38 |
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that test actually isn't a F, its actually a B, i guess I just misread it. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Oct 12 2009, 06:31 PM Post #39 |
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I seriously need to score well on the USMLE exam, because my class grades are mediocre. I scored in the 99th percentile on the SAT and 97th percentile on the MCAT, I'm aiming for a 99th percentile on the USMLE though that looks to be increasingly unlikely/impossible given the strength of competition and downward trend in my test scores (reflecting the strength of competition). Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Oct 12 2009, 06:33 PM.
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| Quaon | Oct 12 2009, 06:47 PM Post #40 |
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Various youth programs have divided the Americas into spheres of influences - CTY controls the east and west coasts. It uses standardized test scores; the SAT is the test used for admittance. |
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| Union | Oct 12 2009, 06:49 PM Post #41 |
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Really? I got a perfect PSAT, and a 2300 on the actual SAT. |
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| Quaon | Oct 12 2009, 06:50 PM Post #42 |
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Yes, but did you take the SAT in 7th grade? |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Oct 12 2009, 06:56 PM Post #43 |
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I got a 1260/1600 in 7th grade and a 1380/1600 in 8th grade. I have no idea what youth program prevails in the middle of the country though, besides the Future Farmers of America (as seen in Napoleon Dynamite) Sadly I was deprived and did not attend any summer youth programs besides "hang out in my stoner friend's basement" |
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| NRE | Oct 12 2009, 06:56 PM Post #44 |
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I love my laziness and do not regret not pushing myself harder in middle and high school. I enjoyed just being a kid, as I'd suggest everyone to do so. After all time is limitless and once its stops being so you're dead and what would you care then :lol: |
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| New Harumf | Oct 13 2009, 09:18 AM Post #45 |
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I never took the SAT. I scored 28 on the ACT (back when it was tough). Through High School I never carried a book home from school or studied. I got by with C's in the courses that did not interest me, and A's in the ones that did. If you looked up the definition of "Ambition" my picture would appear in the antonym column. I had none, but was naturally smart. I remember trivia of the most meaningless nature but forget how to spell "necessary". I went to college based totally on my ACT score, discovered something called "a party" and maintained my usual non-study habits. Naturally, I was out of there in a year and a half. After working as a check sorter in the federal reserve bank of Chicago on the midnight to 8 shift for $2.85/hr for two years I decided I did need an education after all. I returned to college full time, and worked the third shift part-time. Knowing my study habits and inherent laziness would not change I chose a major where all I had to do was read, remember trivia, and bullshit (three things I enjoyed) thus, a degree in English Lit. After getting my undergrad degree I figured, "hey, this literature stuff is easy" so I applied to grad school, with the understanding I would go to whatever school gave me the most money. I went to Western New Mexico University in beautiful Silver City, New Mexico since they offered me an assistantship that paid real cash, and in-state tuition. Turns out this particular campus in the Southwestern corner of New Mexico was the drug import capital of the Southwest. I therefore applied my skills at trivia, BS and reading, and combined them with weed (at $5.00 an ounce), opium and mushrooms, and completed my Master's in 1.5 years. Now, I needed a job that required a skill-set that consisted of BS, trivia and reading (I ruled out a Ph.D. when I discovered I would need to add "original thinking" to my skill set, and a foreign language). I discovered the BS was a perfect skill set for interviewing and getting a job, and I was able to convince potential employees that a Master's in Liberal Arts was exactly what they needed for their math-intense, logic-based positions. I discovered APL. Ah, the computer language APL, it is interpreted rather than compiled, ergo, when your crappy code breaks, low and behold, you can fix it right where it broke, and continue on. One run through your crappy code makes it good, workable code. Also, IBM proliferated the language all over the place, as their favorite code for lazy, BSing developers to develop new stuff in, and upper management's brilliant plan to push out code still in development as completed products. Also, no companies bothered to train programmers in APL because it was just a core-hog development language and Assembler, C, Cobol and other compiled code was more to their liking. So, Big Blue kept pushing out APL code disguised as any number of products - corporations continued to guarentee a shortage of APL programmers - IBM refused to publish APL manuals - schools continued to ignore teaching it because it had no practical value - APL junkies developed interpreters for the infant PC market - sneeky APL'ers converted mainframe products to the PC unbeknownst to management - and before you know it, BS, trivia and a love of reading developed into a carreer. Now, APL is a remarkably concise language, even today. We lazy programmers can do in one line of code what takes 60 lines to do in a compiled language. Management never believed this because they never bothered to learn APL, and most programmers are scared to death by it. However, management still alots us APL'ers the same development time as conventional developers. This is perfect for the lazy, because they give us a month development window, and we are pretty confident we can role out the product in a day or two, so we sit around and read, or play role-playing games for 19 days of the month, then use the last 2 to push out the product - and even if it is not working, it is interpreted, and if it breaks at the customer site we just log in and fix it on the spot, branch to the line it broke on, and away it goes! Now, with most of the APL'ers gone, I am in demand because IBM pushed so much stuff out in the 70's and 80's! The 60 lines to 1 line of code comparison still holds true too, because if a company wants to convert their still-valuable APL system to something else, the 700,000 lines of APL code turn into 42 million lines of something else, and it just becomes cost-prohibitive, and, the original authors of the APL code prided themselves on making code as convoluted to the non-APL literate as possible, making conversion even more difficult. The perfect job for the lazy, BS'ing trivia freak that loves to read. I tell this story, because there is great potential out there for the bright-but-lazy person. Just be sure you learn to bullshit expertly and with great believability. |
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| Telosan | Oct 13 2009, 04:01 PM Post #46 |
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CTY doesn't cover the whole US? I had many people from California, one from Arizona, and a few from the heart of America. I'm not sure what I did to get in. My dad woke me up one morning, drove me to a high school I didn't recognize and dropped me in a room. I took the test because I figured I had nothing better to do and had a very strong feeling that my dad dropped me there for a reason without saying a word. I scored 1580/1600 (no writing part) and took the writing part the following week, 1690/2400 (hate writing). I also took the ACT, scoring...30/36 I think. I found out later that my dad had signed me up for a program called the "East Coast Talented Youth Search". The program works for CTY and had administered the test, as they apparently do on a yearly basis, but have no advertising. I don't know how my dad discovered it. I only wish I could've gone earlier. I first took the test in 6th grade, but wouldn't even hear of going to a "Nerd Camp". My dad pestered me for a year and I went the summer after 7th grade (retook the tests as well, scoring just a bit better). I can't believe I passed up the opportunity after 6th grade. I wish we knew about it earlier, now I'm down to one year left. :sad: A friend of mine is further deprived. I met him at CTY, this year was his squirrel (first) and nomore (last) year. He caught strep on the 6th day and went home. Poor kid emailed me to vent frustration over how he was informed through the mail that he wouldn't be allowed to attend the following year to make it up. Didn't want to quote the whole thing. Interesting story, NH. You're like the guy on those self-confidence videos they force us to watch every few months. Did you ever once incredibly exaggerate a sigh? How about say out loud that you're "Finaly back on the right path" after you went back to college? |
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| Rhadamanthus | Oct 13 2009, 04:14 PM Post #47 |
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Are you saying you got a 110 on the writing part? (1690-1580=110) I thought the minimum on any individual section was 200/800? Or at least that was how it was when I was taking the tests, since I know that things have changed over the years. |
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| Telosan | Oct 13 2009, 04:25 PM Post #48 |
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Yep. :lol: Did great on everything else, but can't stand writing. I'll write what I want to write! What application to life does writing a story from a prompt or picture have? I left a few of the essays blank and wrote terribly on the rest. There were a few essay questions that were more open, letting you write what you wanted. That's where I got my points. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Oct 13 2009, 04:32 PM Post #49 |
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Is the test completely different? I really don't understand. As I said, when I took SAT tests, the floor was always 200 on any given part or subject test. I know that in 2005 they said the test was to be made marginally harder (and the writing section was added) but they removed some of the sections that were considered to correlate with general intelligence, like the analogies. But I still don't understand how you could get a 110 on a section. I don't think that is possible on the SAT and I have never heard of that being changed.
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Oct 13 2009, 04:35 PM.
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| Quaon | Oct 13 2009, 08:14 PM Post #50 |
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I believe 200 would be the lowest possible score if one simply did not answer any questions. However, since answering incorrectly actually deducts points, a 110 might be possible through just being completely terrible. Though I'm also confused. There is an essay that is scored out of 12, but it's clearly not what Telosan is referring to, yet he talks about writing stories. |
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