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CTY; Lancaster mostly.
Topic Started: Aug 10 2009, 08:59 PM (1,351 Views)
Telosan
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Eh, not sure what to say here. We just need the topic. RD, did you ever get to Lancaster?
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Yes. I want to say in 1999, but I don't remember precisely. IIRC, I took a course in Mathematical Modeling.
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Yeah. The camera wasn't originally his. He got it from someone else who handed it down to him.
Yeah, I think it was originally Max's. Max is this really amazingly smart guy who nomored out in 08.
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Poor guy, this was his nomore year. He bawled for several dozen minutes after the passionfruit. He was trying to take one last picture when someone started playing "American Pie" and "Forever Young" on their Iphone and someone ran up and hugged him and then the rest of us swarmed those two ignoring the song. I cried my eyes out and I still have one more year. We should open a new topic on CTY. It's certainly deserving of one since we have at least 3 people here who attended.
He did the same at first session as well. It was my nomore year as well. Last dance was very sad.

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Ulgania
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This forum's esoteric enough already.

Can someone please explain what the hell you all have been talking about?
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Aug 10 2009, 09:06 PM
This forum's esoteric enough already.

Can someone please explain what the hell you all have been talking about?
TC had a great post describing it, but I can't find it now.

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http://s3.zetaboards.com/nationstates/topic/7109851/1/ (here is the topic; read through it)
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Aug 10 2009, 09:45 PM.
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Quaon
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So there's this place. For really smart teenagers. And it's like the internet in real life minus the shit parts + hippie like love sentiments.
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It cannot be explained, only experienced.

Really, if I tried to explain it to anyone they'd probably kill me. I can't even explain half of it, it just is.

Looking over RealCTY, it seems to be the most solid thing I've seen regarding it and suggest reading it. I need to find out about the duck they gave me...

Quaon, you were in the first session this year? Aww, I just missed ya!
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Quaon
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Yeah. It's a shame with your surgery and all, or else we could've met each other!
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Telosan
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That would have been slightly awkward and slightly awesome at the same time.

What are the differences between session 1 and 2, are there copies of each tradition for each session.

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Also, Telosan, no offense, but you didn't go to real CTY. You went to one of the weird programs they have that's based off of CTY but is not CTY proper.
This is from a while ago. Now that I've gone to a proper CTY, I'd have to say it's much, much better than I thought. Actually beats the boat and I thought nothing could top that. Lancaster is by far the best by everything I've heard. I think I'll be there next year. Next year's my last, oh it's so not fair! I just started CTY! I'm so deprived.

I had a hallmate who was a squirrel and a nomore at the same time. He was also sent home on with the "flu" in the middle of the second week. I hope they do something to let him come back.
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So I just realized that my time in Lancastar was a decade ago. You guys make me feel old.
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The Trinity/Holder of the Duck/etc thing is different from session to session.

Also, from what I understand, the Alcove is more of a clique second session than first.

The canon is slightly different.

Also, two of my best friends got sent home for the same reason, and one of them wasn't actually contagious. It was irritating.
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Never did do CTY, but I did have the opportunity. Instead, I opted to go to a CYLC program. ^^
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On the second Sunday I went to the health office and within minutes they decided to send me home. Several hours later I was home, screaming at people on the phone. By noon the next day I had a doctor's note and was standing in Thomas Hall, screaming at people in person. As far as I know, I am the only one to have been sent home and successfully resurrected. I didn't get anything special out of it.
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Aug 10 2009, 10:47 PM
On the second Sunday I went to the health office and within minutes they decided to send me home. Several hours later I was home, screaming at people on the phone. By noon the next day I had a doctor's note and was standing in Thomas Hall, screaming at people in person. As far as I know, I am the only one to have been sent home and successfully resurrected. I didn't get anything special out of it.
In the year 2000, when I was at the Carlisle facility at Dickinson College, I got bronchitis during (IIRC) the first week. I went home, got better, and came back. Later, as a punishment, one of the kids in my hall had to write an essay on why I was a deity, and he included my "resurrection." After that, for the remainder of the session, my hall worshipped me as a living god.
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...

That is sooo not fair. I wonder if I even got mentioned on any of the forums. I was pretty anonymous, didn't do much besides following what everyone else did. I watched more than participated and feel terrible about it.

I think my hall got the wrong idea about me. I don't remember what triggered it, but we had gotten into a very heated debate about morals. Just about everyone against me and a few standing the middle ground. I basically said morals are created by society and natural morals really say that you shouldn't care about anything. I said that if 9 million people starved to death in the middle of Asia, by natural morals, I shouldn't care. They took it to mean I didn't care at all about the lives of 9 million people.

Couple that with the fact that I later argued that nukes were a good idea and I wanted to someday rule the world, I'm sure they think that the first chance I get I'll drop nukes on anyone who got on my bad side and then some.
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Aug 10 2009, 11:09 PM
I said that if 9 million people starved to death in the middle of Asia, by natural morals, I shouldn't care. They took it to mean I didn't care at all about the lives of 9 million people.
No, you didn't care at all about the lives of 9 million Central Asian people.

And that's perfectly understandable. :gnarkgnark:

After all, dictator's have to be ruthless.
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Aug 10 2009, 11:09 PM
I think my hall got the wrong idea about me. I don't remember what triggered it, but we had gotten into a very heated debate about morals. Just about everyone against me and a few standing the middle ground. I basically said morals are created by society and natural morals really say that you shouldn't care about anything. I said that if 9 million people starved to death in the middle of Asia, by natural morals, I shouldn't care. They took it to mean I didn't care at all about the lives of 9 million people.
I don't accept that natural morals say you shouldn't care about anything (whatever that means). A natural morality would certainly have people caring, but not equally. You would care more about your close family than more distant relations, and more about your friends and family than those you don't know. But that doesn't mean you would not care about people on the other side the world. As long as you can empathize with them, you can care; there is nothing unnatural about that, and there is no natural morality that tells you not to empathize, but empathy comes more easily for those that are closer to you than those distant (in terms of relation or association).
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I think the greater problem with that was that, as expected, 2/3rds of my hall and class were Chinese or Korean. They must've assumed I wouldn't care about them either.

Or maybe it was my statement during the nuclear weapons debate. I quote myself, "North Koreans are just insane, next question." Should NOT have said that in a roomfull of Koreans, all of which could totally beat me within an inch of my life. Several of which threatened to do so. Yay.

My morals debate was that natural morals generally are that you care about family and those that earn your respect, love, etc. Society dictates that you care about others that you never met. I'm sure there are people that actually do care, but I don't think anyone would care that 9 million people suddenly died anywhere near as much as they would if their friend died.
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Aug 10 2009, 11:22 PM
I think the greater problem with that was that, as expected, 2/3rds of my hall and class were Chinese or Korean. They must've assumed I wouldn't care about them either.

Or maybe it was my statement during the nuclear weapons debate. I quote myself, "North Koreans are just insane, next question." Should NOT have said that in a roomfull of Koreans, all of which could totally beat me within an inch of my life. Several of which threatened to do so. Yay.
Interesting, you will have to go into great detail regarding the ethno-racial composition of your class.
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Half the class was a collection of American stereotypes. NYC, LA, San Francisco, etc. Some from unheard of places in Arizona. The other half of the class was Korean or Chinese. The Chinese were mostly originating from the Bejing area and they all had something to say about the one who wasn't. They claimed he had a "Farmer's accent", Jeriah was from the Hong Kong area. The Koreans, I don't really know. I beleive one did originate from North Korea. He was the one most offended by my Korean generalization and, coincidently, my roomate.
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That's weird. When I took logic last year, there were only two Asians in my class. Then again, I suppose it makes sense. Asians have a lower return rate to CTY because their parents have a tendency to make them diversify, so the older classes are less likely to have any...

And Philosophy of Mind and specifically me pwned a Logic class in a debate first session.
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We didn't have a debate session, but it was talked about all the time. The other Logic classes debated with each other, but we weren't involved.
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Aug 10 2009, 11:22 PM
My morals debate was that natural morals generally are that you care about family and those that earn your respect, love, etc. Society dictates that you care about others that you never met. I'm sure there are people that actually do care, but I don't think anyone would care that 9 million people suddenly died anywhere near as much as they would if their friend died.
Of course not. But not caring as much doesn't in any way mean not caring at all. Caring doesn't mean caring equally.
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Hey, remember that person who we were talking about in the thread that bore this thread? I met her yesterday and then felt awkward thinking about that thread.
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Do you live at CTY, Q?
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