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| A Secondary Meeting of the Victoria Falls Conference | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 9 2009, 07:18 PM (465 Views) | |
| Ulgania | Aug 9 2009, 07:18 PM Post #1 |
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The conference at Victoria Falls had gone less than smoothly, but still as expected as any from the chancellery could imagine. Because of the tumultuous nature of Serpentine politics regarding the chancellery’s foreign policy decisions, many members of the quorum distances themselves from the negotiations. While many parties had entered the proceedings with an open ear, many others had arrived to only froth with anger, while others left before much could be accomplished. For Tres Valentine, the event had given Ulgania the desired position in Africa and the Middle East he had intended. While many delegations had left disapproving of what had occurred, he had been able to gather them. In years past that was hardly a task many leaders were up to the task of. Now, a new task befell Tres as the Romans had approached his representatives requesting an audience. From what could be discerned, it would be important. The Romans were respected as having the hardiness to endure Genesian occupation, and to come back and create a stable order in its areas of influence in the post-Dominion world. They would be well worth the attention. “Tell their representatives to meet me in Conference Room 7.” |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 9 2009, 09:37 PM Post #2 |
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The Duke of Petra, Thomas Damascene-Dalassenos, strolled into conference room seven. He was a relatively minor noble, but his choice of representative to the Victoria Falls Conference had been prestigious for a few reasons. Firstly, Thomas was a cousin of the Empress Sebastina. His wife was related to both the emperor and the empress. Finally, his late father-in-law, Simeon Dalassenos the Duke of Petra, had been instrumental to the restoration of the empire out of the diadochoi states that had existed following the Great Catastrophe. Thus, the selection of Duke Damascene-Dalassenos was an important sign of respect for the Victoria Falls Conference in general, and for Ulgania in particular. After introducing himself and taking his seat, he and the Ulganian would get down to business.
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Aug 9 2009, 10:50 PM.
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| Ulgania | Aug 9 2009, 10:35 PM Post #3 |
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“Thomas, if I may be so bold as to call you Thomas, I believe that we have been put into positions that may be considerably beneficial to one another. I have influence and clout in Africa, the Middle East, and now in Europe. Rome has its own areas of influence, but at this very moment we have crisscrossed one another, Ulgania going north-to-south, Rome going east-to-west. “I prefer to think that we should never cross swords though. I have seen what Rome is capable of. Your people have the same aptitude for defense as mine. We should remain strong, and in this I believe mutual cooperation is necessary. “However, I believe that mere agreements of trade and heightened diplomatic status is necessary in order to cultivate our relationship. While at this time, we in Ulgania have little that we need. Most of our national needs can be met through existing infrastructure. However, it has not gone unnoticed that your relations with France have not been as preferential as you may like. “With this in mind, I will ask you Thomas, is there anything the Empire may wish to gain from Ulgania?” |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 9 2009, 11:00 PM Post #4 |
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Lord Damascene-Dalassenos was slightly taken aback at being addressed by his first name, but the duke showed no reaction to the familiarity. Instead, he smiled and accepted it as gesture of friendship. "No, I don't not mind, Tres," he responded with his counterparts own given name, hoping to enhance the familiar mood, "I am happy to be addressed by my Christian name. "To answer your questions, the empire has watched the growth of Ulgania with some pleasure. It is our belief that increased diplomatic and trade opportunities would be beneficial to both of our countries. The East, Africa, and now Spain are areas where both of our nations have important interests, and it would be desirable that we collude in our affairs. "You are right to note the decline of Franco-Roman relations. The French and their liberal ideological agenda have not directly threatened the Roman Empire yet, but we fear the possibility of such. I note that through your European province, you share a border with the French Republic - where once we shared a border instead. I wonder if this mountainous border has caused you any troubles? "Finally, my master has an interest in setting up a small trading colony in Lower Africa, in the Whale Bay. As you know from the general conference, there are certain, er, persons, who have shown some potentially violent opposition to the presence of the European in Africa. While I naturally disregard uncivilized opinion, I would respect your respected opinion on the matter, and your support if possible." OOC: Uncivilized referring to the Afro-nationalist DCA delegate. |
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| Ulgania | Aug 9 2009, 11:10 PM Post #5 |
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“I would be willing to defend the existence of a Roman colony, albeit under the restrictions that it follows that Declaration on Colonialism. Bringing a stable government and economy to any area of Africa is a positive to Ulgania’s position, but our ethnic pride is a factor. As long as positive examples are set, then a colony can be extremely beneficial to Rome, and to Africa as a whole. Details on the colony I’m sure will be considered later down the road. “As for my opinion on uncivilized attitudes, I still believe that structured environments, even a colony, are a greater option that what other counter-productive currents may provide. Should Rome establish its colony and forces, say the DCA, interfere, Rome will have Ulganian support in ensuring stability. Remembering some intelligence reports gathered from Bishop Estharus, Tres continued. “The shared border with France has been stable. However there are insurrectionist groups in Spain that have proved difficult for the colonial government to contend with. Short of shoring up the Ulganian garrison, which would only serve to hinder social advancements in the area, our attempts to sue for peace have been unsuccessful.” |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 9 2009, 11:21 PM Post #6 |
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Thomas nodded, "If you wish the Hispano-Roman garrison to aid you in dealing with insurrectionists in Valencia, you have only to ask. The French may not like our interference so close, but as long as we stay beneath the Pyranees, we are honoring our agreement with them. South of the Alps and the Pyranees, we may act; but on the other side, we do not interference in France itself. Also, in the future, the empire may declare its protection over Iberia, in the manner of the Spanish Kingdom of old. Have our assurance that should such a declaration be made, Ulgania and Srolonka's interests will not be infringed, and will in fact, be looked out for. "And I am thankful for your promise of support against the DCA. I must confess, I hope that Kasnyian rule will be restored to those lands. And of course, all those years ago, the empire was the first to endorse your Declaration on Colonialism, so you can be assured that we will abide by it." |
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| Ulgania | Aug 9 2009, 11:35 PM Post #7 |
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"Thank you Thomas. Governments, and the attitudes of people change as easily as time flows. We never forgot that Rome endorsed the document, but we are also careful on never making assumptions. "While we are on the subject of Spain, however, should Rome seek to reunite the peninsula under a mutual banner, would there be a heavy objection to pushing Srolonkan farther along the Pyrenees?" Tres asked, raising an eyebrow. "It seems as though such a move would only heighten Roman-Franco relations. If Srolonka acted as more of a buffer, then perhaps a more direct conflict may be averted?" OOC: This is the only real ambitious part I have in mind for Srolonka's end of the deal |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 9 2009, 11:42 PM Post #8 |
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"Srolonkan expansion in northern Spain would be acceptable to the empire, but in such case we would like an assurance that Srolonka will not threaten us as a centre of radical-genesian propaganda. We consider that ideology to be every bit as dangerous as the liberal and nationalist ones endorsed by France, but as long as Srolonka does not attempt to spread or propogate a radical ideology, you can assume imperial support in such ventures, Tres." |
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| Ulgania | Aug 9 2009, 11:49 PM Post #9 |
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"Ah, of course. The radical Genesians are of course a blemish. They will be reigned in in due time, but for now they remain as a political entity to govern in Iberia. For my part, I will be honest and frank that, in saying this in confidence, the actions Ulgania is patiently waiting to take will turn Srolonka into a more friendly colony, than a potentially troublesome vassal. The exiling of Bishop Estharus and his flock have only been the first phase. The remainder of my planning will take some time, but I can guarantee to you that there will be no interference from radicals in Iberia." |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 10 2009, 12:29 AM Post #10 |
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"That is excellent news, Tres. Be assurred that the Roman government in Spain will provide you with any assistance you may need in subduing radicalism in Spain. "Shall we draw up a document, or do you consider that unnecessary?" Edited by Rhadamanthus, Aug 10 2009, 12:24 PM.
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| Ulgania | Aug 10 2009, 12:29 PM Post #11 |
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"For now, documents would only hinder things. I'm taking a trip to Iberia in the very near future. Until then, I believe we can leave such details alone. It was a pleasure to have contact like this. We have accomplished much more than I anticipated. For now, we should leave things until the proper time. Until then Thomas," Tres said, extending his hand, "please enjoy the remainder of your stay in the country." |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 10 2009, 12:44 PM Post #12 |
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Duke Thomas Damascene-Dalassenos stood up to shake Tres' hand. "Until next time then," he said, "I expect that our two countries will have a mutually profitable relationship in the future." After he left, Lord Damascene-Dalassenos chose to enjoy the rest of his time in Ulgania, staying at a world famous resort with his wife and enjoying a much needed vacation. |
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| Devin Wire | Aug 13 2009, 04:33 PM Post #13 |
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Antigonus Sosthenes, the aforementioned and previously attending Zeelaran representative had been once again seated. He was hopeful that this event would not go nearly as poorly as the last one did. Despite his own outbursts, he did not actually blame himself for anything that had happened. Instead, he believed that there was far too much aggression in the previous conference. It had certainly seemed, too, that some of that abovementioned aggression was geared towards Zeelar. Settling into his seat, he thought to himself quietly about what had previously been said at the conference. However, he had no intention of continuing to speak on the previous topics. It may have seemed, in fact, that he had no intention to speak to any degree at all. For the moment, he had seemed content to remain completely silent for the moment as he awaited for the discussion to change towards something that would be more in his nation’s favor. |
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| Ulgania | Aug 13 2009, 04:41 PM Post #14 |
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OOC: The main meeting is pretty much over with. There's no real reason to keep it up, but if people want to use it for a chance to establish more private discussions between delegations than they should, by all means. Otherwise it's done and over with. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 14 2009, 10:03 PM Post #15 |
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OOC: I would love to negotiate with Zeelar, but I think it would be best to start a new thread specifically for that. |
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| Devin Wire | Aug 15 2009, 12:34 AM Post #16 |
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[Would you like me to create such a thread?] |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 15 2009, 12:37 AM Post #17 |
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OOC: Yes please :D |
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| Devin Wire | Aug 17 2009, 03:44 PM Post #18 |
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OOC: Alright, I should have it up either tonight or tomorrow. I also hope that we can get the coronation thread going soon. I apologize for the foot dragging! |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 17 2009, 03:49 PM Post #19 |
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OOC: Take as much time as you need. |
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