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Judaism, Islam, and Eastern religions; That is, coutnries that aren't Christian
Topic Started: Jul 26 2009, 11:21 PM (378 Views)
Ulgania
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A little less than a year ago, Hispania (who then became Huesca, and is now simply 'The H') had it unified. He decided to let it fragment, and the land has been parceled out to anyone who wanted a claim.

EDIT: Tou, I think he did ragequit. A quick glance at his sig a little while back kinda demonstrated his sentiments :dry:
Edited by Ulgania, Jul 28 2009, 12:48 AM.
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Rhadamanthus
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The empire considers itself to be the legitimate successor of the Kingdom of Spain :phear:
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Toussaint
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Ulgania
Jul 28 2009, 12:46 AM
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Hispania. ;)
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Ulgania
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Edited.

RD, would that be hearkening back to the ancient Roman Empire that grabbed it from Carthage?
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Toussaint
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I think the Roman claim stems from royal relations between Hispania and the Empire.

The Holy Roman Empire used to claim Spain in this same manner, when I co-played it with Filo.
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Ulgania
Jul 28 2009, 12:51 AM
Edited.

RD, would that be hearkening back to the ancient Roman Empire that grabbed it from Carthage?
Well, that's what got us interested in the region to begin with.

More recently, when Spain split up, the Roman Empire entered the Spanish Civil War on behalf of the King of Spain, Hannibal Vlachos, who was an ex-roman general, who married into the Spanish Royal family before Spain was unified. The Empire considers his claim to have been valid, and considers itself to be his heir.
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Kasnyia
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Yeah but do you plan on actually acting on the claim?
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Sedulius
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I'd honestly like to see an Empire of Spain. We don't have many classic countries on here. There's the Russian Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Kingdom of Ireland, the Teutonic Order, and now finally France. Am I missing anything?

By classic I guess I mean old RL nations.

You know, I'd just love to see the Netherlands pop up, or Prussia (though I guess that's the TO).

I suppose that's the reason for my Celtic League.

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EDIT: When I last checked, The H quit at the same time TC did.
Edited by Sedulius, Jul 28 2009, 03:52 AM.
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Jul 28 2009, 03:52 AM
I'd honestly like to see an Empire of Spain. We don't have many classic countries on here. There's the Russian Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Kingdom of Ireland, the Teutonic Order, and now finally France. Am I missing anything?

By classic I guess I mean old RL nations.

You know, I'd just love to see the Netherlands pop up, or Prussia (though I guess that's the TO).

I suppose that's the reason for my Celtic League.

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EDIT: When I last checked, The H quit at the same time TC did.
We've had the Kingdom of Spain, and we've had Prussia before.

Kas: I have plans for Spain, as I mentioned earlier, but I don't want to post what they are ahead of time. If you catch me on MSN before I post them, then I can share them with you. I'm reluctant to post them yet, because I don't want to get to far ahead in the post-Dominion RP, because the Dominion RP is still going on and it confuses me.
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Toussaint
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We also have the CSA, and the Holy Roman Empire.
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Filo
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Hmmm i have lost something, about what we are talking?
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NRE
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Well we were talking about non-christian religions, then we got on the topic of Spain, then on RL old world nations such as the Kingdom of Spain, Russian Empire, etc. etc.

Don't forget RD we also had a British Empire which control most of Britain and all of Ireland. Scotland was the only thing to escape FB when he was uniting the Empire. We also have a strong Scandinavian country once (not that Yshurak isn't, but they're not a monarchy) too although they didn't call themselves by any old world title such as "the British Empire" or Russian Empire."

I think the most fascinating two states we've had in Europe were the Prussian Empire and Saxe-Coburg (which was effectively our German Empire before Leb). Those two were mortal enemies like nobodies business and the wars the two players involved themselves in were some of the best stories told on the forums IMO. I miss mortal rivalries like that, I really do.
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Nag Ehgoeg has a significant Muslim minority. Judaism has a minority.
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Jul 28 2009, 01:24 PM
I think the most fascinating two states we've had in Europe were the Prussian Empire and Saxe-Coburg (which was effectively our German Empire before Leb). Those two were mortal enemies like nobodies business and the wars the two players involved themselves in were some of the best stories told on the forums IMO. I miss mortal rivalries like that, I really do.
This is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to see. Maybe we just need more German states of opposed ideologies.
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Toussaint
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French-German rivalry ftw. :evil:
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Sedulius
Jul 28 2009, 07:08 PM
This is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to see. Maybe we just need more German states of opposed ideologies.
I think post Dominion Europe in particular may lend itself nicely to such rivalries. I mean we already have opposing religious beliefs and then there is political differences such as the Republicans (pro-Democracies) and the Monarchs. It just needs to be played out and developed, and I don't mean just deciding one day to be enemies with someone but more of catching something in an RP which will set things in motion.

Take the Eastern Empire and Velorya in Asia. Me and Nor had a pretty good feud going between our two nations which had its origins in a conflict where we were allies. Our two nations teamed up to fight against a rogue terrorists with nukes that landed in Kasnyia I believe. Anywho long story short my nation's guys got what we'd came for (the ship was our nation's property and thus I believe we simply wanted the crazy terrorist dead) and we got out. From an OOC standpoint I never meant to become an enemy of Velorya, but Nor portrayed his people as taking offense that we left so soon in the conflict. I ran with in IC and before you knew it our two Empires were bitter enemies within a generation or so and we were constantly battling to supremacy in Asia.

So yeah I think, at least in Europe's case, that the ingredients for a good rivalry is there, we just need the opportunity to RP more with each other and discover them and then play off of them and grow them.
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Rhadamanthus
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The Empire (or previously RD)'s traditional rival/enemy was CE, though sometimes we were not quite enemies if not quite allies. We fought three wars total, just as in ancient times there were three Punic Wars for dominance of the Mediterranean. In the Empire they are known as the First Catholic European War (First War of Succession), the Second Catholic European War (War of Sucession Redux), and the Third Catholic European War (the Dominion War).
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Jul 28 2009, 09:57 PM.
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Kasnyia
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The incident you're referring to is when (then Colonel) Augersmann, in the IC weeks just after my first civil war, commandeered the Topaz Army's (then known as the Coalition Army, ironically, after the Coalition of the People's Will) ace in the hole, a recovered nuclear missile from the original Vallahalla warship. Velorya, which was Kasnyia's chief ally at the time, went in to help, especially since he was, via rail, heading in that direction. You, NRE, having been a backer of the COTPW and Gassel, were not welcomed by Kasnyia after they found out your involvement. You tried saving face, as a front to recover that missile. You also tried to pretend you were still allies to the Topaz forces onboard that train when they stopped by one of your bases. You then tried to kill them, got in a fire fight from which they fled (not to be heard from again for years), after which your commander of that base was executed for being reckless before you ended up turning your attentions to the NDCZ, which had become a hotspot between you, AA, and Nor.
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Eventually, the Amish Children will not be Christian. Wait for it.
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Toussaint
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Seeing as France is a relatively new nation, we really don't have any long-standing rivals. However, with the 16th-century climate of Europe, I'm definitely not on the best of terms with most of the continent. :P

However, as far as rivalries go, it seems Franco-Irish relations are in the shitter, and Franco-Native American relations have also given birth to a bit of a rivalry.

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Kasnyia
Jul 28 2009, 09:58 PM
The incident you're referring to is when (then Colonel) Augersmann, in the IC weeks just after my first civil war, commandeered the Topaz Army's (then known as the Coalition Army, ironically, after the Coalition of the People's Will) ace in the hole, a recovered nuclear missile from the original Vallahalla warship. Velorya, which was Kasnyia's chief ally at the time, went in to help, especially since he was, via rail, heading in that direction. You, NRE, having been a backer of the COTPW and Gassel, were not welcomed by Kasnyia after they found out your involvement. You tried saving face, as a front to recover that missile. You also tried to pretend you were still allies to the Topaz forces onboard that train when they stopped by one of your bases. You then tried to kill them, got in a fire fight from which they fled (not to be heard from again for years), after which your commander of that base was executed for being reckless before you ended up turning your attentions to the NDCZ, which had become a hotspot between you, AA, and Nor.
No, before that Kas, I was referring to the Ganosian Terrorist, the RP we did all on the NS forum and not on the boards. I believe it was that RP which create the rivalry between myself and Velorya.
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Ulgania
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Considering the nature of our world, I think creating organic rivalries is best, instead of "oh, you RP that civilization, so we hate you".
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Jul 29 2009, 01:17 PM
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Jul 28 2009, 09:58 PM
The incident you're referring to is when (then Colonel) Augersmann, in the IC weeks just after my first civil war, commandeered the Topaz Army's (then known as the Coalition Army, ironically, after the Coalition of the People's Will) ace in the hole, a recovered nuclear missile from the original Vallahalla warship. Velorya, which was Kasnyia's chief ally at the time, went in to help, especially since he was, via rail, heading in that direction. You, NRE, having been a backer of the COTPW and Gassel, were not welcomed by Kasnyia after they found out your involvement. You tried saving face, as a front to recover that missile. You also tried to pretend you were still allies to the Topaz forces onboard that train when they stopped by one of your bases. You then tried to kill them, got in a fire fight from which they fled (not to be heard from again for years), after which your commander of that base was executed for being reckless before you ended up turning your attentions to the NDCZ, which had become a hotspot between you, AA, and Nor.
No, before that Kas, I was referring to the Ganosian Terrorist, the RP we did all on the NS forum and not on the boards. I believe it was that RP which create the rivalry between myself and Velorya.
I thought it was because Shoa Conn had abandoned everyone in the hour of need during the Vallahalla incident? You shot the captain and then left us to clean up the mess or something.

Damn it, the old days shoulda been recorded....
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