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The Kalahari War; Another Chapter in the Dominion Wars...
Topic Started: Jul 25 2009, 11:24 PM (1,577 Views)
North Transvaal
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Prest. Martin van Staden, dictator of the Armed Republic of North Transvaal.
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OOC: Yes, thats the reason of my asking.
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Kasnyia
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OOC- Either you can retcon out of being involved beforehand, retcon the nature of your involvement (rather than be a fully developed nation, maybe you could be nomads or something), or retcon having been founded only after the war.
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OOC: I think the most logical solution would be to have it so you came to exist when you wanted to, but were isolationist enough for a short period of time, and it wasn't this leg of the wars in Africa that you decided to join the fight.

I mean, what I'm saying is really vague. You might not have to retcon a lot, or anything if you don't want to, but if you want to have continuity the way you seem to, you just have to reword a few things ^^
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NRE
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OOC: I wouldn't put much thought into it, times is just that elephant we like to forget :lol:

IC:

"Well then" said the Queen, "If we are all in agreement, then the discussion of Metz is complete gentlemen. That is, unless either of you have any great last opinions or requests to make?"
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"I have nothing further to say on the matter of Metz. Logistically speaking, the chancellery can assist President Staden with the establishment of port cities and infrastructure.

"Now, the most important matter that I can consider is the future of the war effort. Ulganian-Sahndaq fights on, and as Africans, I believe it is still our duty to see to the liberation of the remainder of the continent. The north stands no chance with Rome remaining occupied by active, yet defunct, Catholic European forces that remain supplied by the Dominion. Queen Juliana, I know this can be difficult for you, but I still wish to create a policy for the remainder of Africa."
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Rhadamanthus
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OOC:

FWIW, Juliana is the Emperor's fourth cousin, twice removed.
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Prest. Martin van Staden, dictator of the Armed Republic of North Transvaal.
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"We also have nothing more to say, except that I will be staying in Acropolis for a while to enjoy the sights. But I however wish to make this clear, the North Transvaal's only efforts in this war, will be to secure Africa from Dominion hands. We have no interest in continuing in the other continents."
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Ulgania
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"That is of course, understandable. A liberation of Rome though would be deeply important to Africa, as many of the important centers of the state are African."
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Kasnyia
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OOC- The Italian Peninsula has already been liberated. Unless you mean North Africa, which might go neutral by the time you get there.
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Ulgania
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OOC: Sahndaqians are pissed. They might not care about neutrality at that point, but we'll see.
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Aug 27 2009, 03:29 PM
OOC- The Italian Peninsula has already been liberated. Unless you mean North Africa, which might go neutral by the time you get there.
OOC: As long as they withhold they lands from the legitimate government in Egypt, they are de facto not netural.
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Kasnyia
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OOC- I mean by the time the theater moves north, the Dominion would likely have abandoned the positions. You have to remember the Coalition is leading a campaign from the Gibraltar strait against them too. Once Europe is truely lost, which it is teetering on, the Dominion will not hold the position and allocate the land to whom THEY think is the legitimate government of Catholic Europe, which is at the current time, based in the Holy Land, in the Fortress City of Jerusalem.

But when that happens, the Dominion will have the forces and resources normally tied up by that territory to strengthen the flanks.
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Queen Juliana pondered the thought of North Africa. She knew well the ties between her own blood and that of the Emperor of the Romans though she'd never admit it publicly. They were after all heretics as far as she was concerned. Still the Dominion was a much greater threat in North Africa at the moment than the Romans were.

"Creating a policy to deal with North Africa is preferable as the Commonwealth's ultimate goals and desires are towards eliminating the Dominion threat from Africa completely. However, unlike North Transvaal the Commonwealth has desires outside of Africa as well. The Italian peninsula has been left to the wolves of the world. True and pure Catholics that we are, we feel obligated to secure for the future of the church the city of its founding, Rome herself. Though we have no problems operating in a North African theater I do wish to make clear that obtaining Rome in the name of the church is first an foremost for our current agenda."

"Please Chancellor, what sort of policies did you have in mind for our nations to adopt in relation to a war effort in north Africa?"
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Ulgania
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"Ulganian interests lie in the securing of the northern lands to their prior governments, and maintaining a former status quo, albeit modified for today's issues," the chancellor said with a general wave of his arm. "I doubt there are many needs that we need to consider in the realms of the north, but should we have a conjoined effort to once and for all drive the Dominion from our lands. If this is a concurrent idea, then it would only last as long as the war effort. The fighting around Sahndaq may be worst, as the Dominion strongholds in the Middle East continue to supply forces bogging down Sennar and Morrocon, and Ulgania may bare the bront of it, but with Europe falling apart, the rest of the north is left vulnerable.

"Mind you, Ulgania would again be acting as the shield. We would act to keep the enemy from breaking out of the Middle East, while other armies flesh out the rest of the positions."
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"A recreation of the balance of power in Africa seems preferable to the Commonwealth, although we must confess that supporting heretic governments is not a foreign policy I'm altogether sure my government wishes to take. However, knowing that these nations are at the whims of whatever powers come to liberate them, I suppose a compromise can be found. So long as neither of your governments protest in allowing Catholic missionaries from entering North African countries the Commonwealth helps to liberate, then the Commonwealth is willing to turn a blind eye to whatever governments the Ulganians in particular, feel has a right to rise to power."

Juliana smiled

"Don't forget gentlemen that this missionaries are not simply street corner priests looking to press the gospel nor are they the militant inquisition supported by the Hegemony. Spreading the word of God, as noble and as high a task as it may be on their agenda, is but a part of a bigger list. These individuals are men of trade, artisans that can employ their skills to help rebuild these nations physically while they hope to spiritually save them from damnation."
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OOC: So are we basically finished here then?
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Prest. Martin van Staden, dictator of the Armed Republic of North Transvaal.
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OOC: Yeah I think so. When will the territory transfer be made?
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OOC: Can't think of anything else. I'll probably deal with Ulgania-Sahndaq myself in the end, which will coincide with Rome returning to independence. I'll have to fit in a little justification for Srolonka turning into a colony at that point
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OOC: Consider the transfer of lands to have taken place say a month after the Conference and with time fluid that basically means automatic :lol: or I guess I should say, whenever it works to you and the stories you wish to tell.
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