Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
This forum is used with the NationStates web-game designed and run by Max Barry. While not officially affiliated, this serves as the regional forum for the regions: Middle East, African Continent, American Continent, Asian Continent, and European Continent.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and can "read only".

In order to get the most out of these forums, please become a member and read this guide - http://z3.invisionfree.com/nationstates/index.php?showtopic=3060


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
L'Orient
Topic Started: Jul 24 2009, 12:48 AM (472 Views)
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
Southeast Asia had been torn to the throws of destruction by the war. Zapht placed the region under its direct governance- indeed, only several years before today, Southeast Asia was the heart of darkness. Once the war came to a close, the region was soon forgotten by the world. Save for the nation of Thailand, the entire area seemed devoid of organized civilization. The Great War may had ended, however the southeastern corner of Asia continued to fight on- against itself.

The Vietnamese, the Laotians, and the Cambodians simply could not hold it together. The world, in turn, seemed to ignore their plight. This was so, at least, until the first French missions came to the area. The French came with humanitarian aid. They came with technology that promised to improve the lives of the native. They came with all the commodities of the civilized world.

Perhaps most importantly, however, they came with money. Lots of money.

---------

The French arrival was unexpected in Asia, however, those in France had it planned for a long, long time. The idea of a "French Colonial Company" was first proposed to the French government by the wealthy shipping baron Jean-Marc Floréal. His arguments for colonization were plentiful, and also very convincing.

Floréal has convinced the National Assembly that colonization would assert the glory of modern France in a very tangible way. Building an empire for the Republic, Floréal argued, would shower France with a new light. In addition to expanding its prestige, France would have the opportunity to create new export markets- as well as gain new sources of raw materials. Military presence could be established all around the world, to reflect France's new position in the post-war world. Democracy would have the chance to expand to new corners of the Earth. Naturally, the National Assembly was eating out of Floréal's hands.

The only real question was, where to begin? Despite having designs on locations the world over, France chose Indochina as its first colonial ambition.

---------

French traders were the first ones to set foot in Indochina. They were followed closely by military men, humanitarians, and engineers. The military was only there as a safety precaution- the primary means of establishing the colony was decidedly going to be through cold hard economics.

Quote:
 
Clippings from
Le Dimanche
The very best in French news.

French Orient Established!
SAÏGON, June 28th, 20XX- The government has announced the establishment of the first French Overseas Departments today, amidst a mood of jubilancy and pride back in mainland France. The announcement has come amidst great pressure from within the nation to expand its resources and wealth, and to export liberty...

...The new Departments will collectively form a single region- The French Orient. As of this present time, Versailles currently claims all of the territories of Viêt Nam, Laos, and Hainan....

The Republic's goals have been clearly outlined by popular foreign minister François Dulac. Dulac has stated that "France's presence in the Orient is one that is humanitarian in nature. Almost immediately, one can notice that our first projects in the region include building schools, housing, and infrastructure for the inhabitants to enjoy.... Beyond building better lives for the citizens of Indochina and Hainan, we also have instituted new programs for trade. With any luck, our new overseas territories will be a part of the modern economy within the decade." Industrialization efforts have been spearheaded by Parisian Armand Brumaire.

The plan for governing Indochina and Hainan has been released to the public as well. According to parliamentary sources, the provinces will be under civil administration from France for the next ten years. At a macropolitical level, most offices will be determined by appointment. However, local and provincial elections will be held after six months, and will create a self-selected local authority for the regions occupants. After ten years, the French Regions of Indochina and Hainan will be considered integral parts of the nation, and will be granted full rights as such...

While the reaction from the rest of the world has yet to be heard, one thing is certain- the French are building a freer society in Southeast Asia, and are working to improve the lives of those living in this down-on-its-luck corner of Asia.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kasnyia
Member Avatar
Chairman of the Bank
OOC- You aren't taking Zapht itself are you?

IC-

We welcome the French of Yvenlais to Asia and hope they have a better time of it than their...lesser...cousins from Great New France.

- Statement from the Grand Parliament of Kasnyia on behalf of the Emperor
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
Kasnyia
Jul 24 2009, 12:55 AM
OOC- You aren't taking Zapht itself are you?

IC-

We welcome the French of Yvenlais to Asia and hope they have a better time of it than their...lesser...cousins from Great New France.

- Statement from the Grand Parliament of Kasnyia on behalf of the Emperor
OOC: I don't think so. I'm just taking the RL borders of Indochine Française, and the Chinese Island of Hainan.

IC:
We thank the Kasnyians for their welcome, and ensure the Emperor that our nation is hardly resentment to that of the Québecers.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Porcu
Member Avatar
"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

Official Communiquè
Oberkommando der Wehrmacht
Porcu wishes to extend its warm regards to the French and blessings to the Yvelinais people.

Field Marshal Walter von Regensburg, Air Marshal Harold Meijvogel, Admiral Nicolaas Koenraad
OKW, Overseas Departments, Dependency of Signapore
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Filo
Member Avatar
General
Is this not an imperialist expantion?

Transpolar-Aleut nation and other NAN mebers condemn the occupation of souteast Asia from White man.

-- NAN foreign office.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
Filo
Jul 24 2009, 06:57 AM
Is this not an imperialist expantion?

Transpolar-Aleut nation and other NAN mebers condemn the occupation of souteast Asia from White man.

-- NAN foreign office.

"We thank Porcu for its welcome and blessings."

"The Native American Nations have little room to talk of imperialism. They have occupied nations on a few different continents, and have even tried to extend their hands into Europe. You simply claim land for the Red Man, rather than the White Man.

"This colony is to be self-governing, and democratic."
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kasnyia
Member Avatar
Chairman of the Bank
"As the NAN is also a guest of Asia, we implore on behalf of the nations of this great region that you show decorum as was shown for you. The French have every right to land as anyone else, so long as they bring proper governance."

- Statement from the Grand Parliament of Kasnyia on behalf of the Emperor
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Filo
Member Avatar
General
We ask pardon to his imperial majesty, if our words may be offensive.
However the NAN will not recognize the new French province and refuse to send diplomatics.

-- NAN foreign office
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ulgania
Member Avatar
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse
The Bureau of European Colonization in Southeast Asia's Office of Colonial Governing and Market Outreach under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Chilsherdian Government welcomes the French into Asia, and we would like to extend an offer from the Ministry of Trade's department of Colonial Trade Management's office of Colonial Development to open talks to create an agreement to bring in French commodities and Asian goods to the greater reach of Asia through the Chilsherdian Government's Ministry of Trade's Department of Regional Trade's office of Colonial Commodities Distribution and Wholesale.

OOC: Translation: Welcome. Want a trade agreement?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
"The French Republic's Ministry of Commerce, as well as the French Orient's Ministry of Commerce are both highly intrigued by this offer. We'd be very interested in establishing trade relations with the Chilsherdian government, and hope that these trade relations can grow into a long and prosperous relationship."
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ulgania
Member Avatar
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse
OOC: I'll keep the bureaucratic nonsense to a minimum... I just reread that post and hated it.

Also the Chilsh work as a regional trade empire, much like Telosan does, but limited to Asia.

IC: The Chilsherdian government is pleased. The markets of Asia will be at the disposal of the French, and the new Orient government.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
NRE
Member Avatar
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman

OOC: Assuming this is post-dominion yes? A shame the Empire will be enduring a civil war at this point. Oh well we can still throw our weight around :lol:

IC:

The French have no place in Asia. Once again European arrogance has turned its ugly head towards Asia. Have it not been for the Dominion and the Dominion wars we would already be amassing an army to oppose such blatant imperialism by the French.

-Emperor Yu Conn
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Draxis
Member Avatar
Captain
OOC: Ah, but NRE have you ever heard of proxies? :P

IC:

It is sad that the greatest of works rarely live that long. Before the rise of the dominion we had driven you cursed beast from our lands. At that time they were known as the Veloryans. Sadly though you conceited Europeans never learn that Asia is not your place. Asia is no longer the place for colonies and has not been for some time.

- Sovereign Survayaman I
Edited by Draxis, Jul 25 2009, 03:13 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
NRE
Member Avatar
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman

Draxis
Jul 25 2009, 03:12 PM
OOC: Ah, but NRE have you ever heard of proxies? :P
OOC: Hmmmm good point Draxis thanks :lol: ^^
Edited by NRE, Jul 25 2009, 03:31 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Draxis
Member Avatar
Captain
NRE
Jul 25 2009, 03:31 PM
Draxis
Jul 25 2009, 03:12 PM
OOC: Ah, but NRE have you ever heard of proxies? :P
OOC: Hmmmm good point Draxis thanks :lol: ^^
OOC: Proxies who happen to border the country in question... :evil: :hypocrite:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Filo
Member Avatar
General
NRE
Jul 25 2009, 12:42 PM
OOC: Assuming this is post-dominion yes? A shame the Empire will be enduring a civil war at this point. Oh well we can still throw our weight around :lol:

IC:

The French have no place in Asia. Once again European arrogance has turned its ugly head towards Asia. Have it not been for the Dominion and the Dominion wars we would already be amassing an army to oppose such blatant imperialism by the French.

-Emperor Yu Conn
If the Heavenly Empire wishes, NAN will be glad to sign some cooperation treaty to took France limited and down.

-- Comunication from NAN
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
Filo
Jul 25 2009, 05:51 PM
If the Heavenly Empire wishes, NAN will be glad to sign some cooperation treaty to took France limited and down.

-- Comunication from NAN
"Though guests in Asia ourselves, we must remind the Native American Nations that they themselves are foreigners to Asia."

"Furthermore, we urge those nations of the East skeptical of our countries ambitions to consider the following- Indochina and Hainan are both self-governing, and have the capacity to elect their own leadership. Humanitarian aid is flowing from France to the battered corner of Southeastern Asia."
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Filo
Member Avatar
General
The Native American Nations, as you call us, are the first non European country or not from European eritage(OCC: this may be not true but i'm not know alla nations and not all forum history), to break free from colonization and raised itself to great power status.
So we are able to speak for our less fortunate brothers, in Asia and all across the world.
Has France installed, they call, a self governament?
Well we think that self governing is no more that a golden prison, so again we sided with Heavenly Empire.

-- NAN foreign Office.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
The Native American Nations are a perfect example of imperialism. You claim to be the spokesmen for all of the "less fortunate" world. Well, learn a lesson from France, and then speak about misfortune. For hundreds of years, our people have labored under the regimes of kings and fascists. Now, we are emerging as a free and democratic nation for the first time- have our people not suffered under fascism, much as your people did under American colonization?

France does indeed have a self government. It elects its own officials in a fair and democratic manner. France's overseas dependencies have self-government. Though legally a part of France, we govern with a steadfast policy of salutary neglect, and allow our colonies to prosper in the manners that they best see fit- with financial and infrastructural aid coming from the government in Versailles.

Please define how anything about self-government is a "golden prison," as the obvious logical fallacy there is intriguing.

OOC: That said, aren't many Indochinese Italian, and not Vietnamese? Technically, would this not make them "not native?"
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Rhadamanthus
Member Avatar
Legitimist

Toussaint
Jul 27 2009, 10:31 PM
The Native American Nations are a perfect example of imperialism. You claim to be the spokesmen for all of the "less fortunate" world. Well, learn a lesson from France, and then speak about misfortune. For hundreds of years, our people have labored under the regimes of kings and fascists. Now, we are emerging as a free and democratic nation for the first time- have our people not suffered under fascism, much as your people did under American colonization?

France does indeed have a self government. It elects its own officials in a fair and democratic manner. France's overseas dependencies have self-government. Though legally a part of France, we govern with a steadfast policy of salutary neglect, and allow our colonies to prosper in the manners that they best see fit- with financial and infrastructural aid coming from the government in Versailles.

Please define how anything about self-government is a "golden prison," as the obvious logical fallacy there is intriguing.

OOC: That said, aren't many Indochinese Italian, and not Vietnamese? Technically, would this not make them "not native?"
OOC: Are you referring to the Veloryan Italo-croatian race?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Toussaint
Member Avatar
Major
OOC: Indeed I am. ;)
Continuity is a beautiful thing.
Edited by Toussaint, Jul 28 2009, 12:02 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Filo
Member Avatar
General
NAN Statement

France is a white man nation and must only rule, by right, over white men.
If veloryans and other white man accept it we haves nothing to discuss, but there are minorities that need our protections.

About the golden prison, NAN nations are members of a sovranational federation and Aleuts, Mayans and Amerindians shares the same rights and have the same duties, Indochina peoples are like franch men?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Alberto
Member Avatar
Resident Italian
Marslavan Foreign Office

The NAN have not the capacity to influence the situation in Indochina . Their imperialist rethoric - because this is merely an attempt to influence other territories - must just be ignored .
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
« Previous Topic · Asian Continent · Next Topic »
Add Reply