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Should the Isle of Man become part of the Celtic League?
Yes 11 (73.3%)
No 4 (26.7%)
Total Votes: 15
The Celtic League
Topic Started: Jul 11 2009, 05:55 PM (1,226 Views)
Sedulius
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OOC: This is post-Dominion, only days after the fall of the Dominion.

Statement issued by the High King of Ireland

I hereby declare the territory of former Wales and Scotland to be under the protection of Ireland. Any attempt by a foreign nation to seize these lands will be have war with Ireland. The Irish government will help all peoples of Britannia to rebuild and organize new governments. Any nation interested is welcome to help in these efforts.

Signed,

Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of Ireland
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The Russian Empire recognizes the ancestral link between the Irish and the Isle of Britain. The British Empire was once a good friend of the Russian Empire before its demise and although we never had formal relations with the Menhadian people, we respected them and feel such sentiments were mutual. May both people prosper in the new age!

-Paul Georgovich Romanov II
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Official Communiqué

Unless it is the wish and desire of the peoples of Wales and Scotland to feel Irish influence upon them then Porcu heavily condemns the actions of the High King of Ireland. Porcu has always respected Ireland and kept her people in high standing; however, this recent declaration reeks of imperialism and Porcu shall have none of it.

Field Marshal Walter von Regensburg, Air Marshal Harold Meijvogel, Admiral Nicolaas Koenraad
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On behalf of Ireland, I thank Emperor Paul II of Russia for his kind words. I hope to establish closer relations with Russia in time.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland

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I respect the words of Field Marshal Walter von Regensburg of Porcu. Such suspicion is necessary with the Dominion fallen to ensure similar powers do not arise. I can assure everyone that my declaration of protection over my Celtic brethren is purely benevolent in nature. It is true that I am protecting Ireland's interests in my actions, but indeed foreign powers have no business in Celtic lands. I do this only to defend Ireland and its brothers from tryants.

Scotland is in ruins, for the Dominion left brutal scars. Their total war left Britannia without government, short on food, and rampant with disease from the countless dead. Ireland sends aid to Britannia, and nothing else. I wish I could collect a vote of the people to approve my declaration, but without any central legitimate governments, this is near impossible. I can only hope that my good word is enough to reassure the people of Porcu and all the world of my good intentions.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."

The immensely good standing of the Irish people, as well as those of Wales and Scotland, make the government of Porcu pause and cautiously allow the proceedings to continue. We shall be waiting in the wings.

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On behalf of Ireland, I thank the government of Porcu for its patience.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland
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Official statement from NAN goverment

The native perople of Europe are in danger too.
The anglo-french thirst of power and land menaces the celts people too.

My government, NAN Sovereign Tribal Congress and Ghostspeaker wish to extend benevolnce to Ireland too.
My government propose an alliance between our nation and, if Ireland wishes to accept, an observer seat in STC
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On behalf of Ireland, I thank the NAN for its support and graciously accept the observer seat in the STC and their proposal of alliance. I shall send Ambassador Éamonn Mac Conchobhar to negotiate and sign the treaty of alliance, as well as to represent Ireland in the observer seat.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland
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Ireland recognizes Brittany (Breizh), Cornwall (Kernow), Ireland (Éire), Isle of Man (Mannin), Scotland (Alba), and Wales (Cymru) as the six Celtic Nations. All are allowed to hold elections for their admission into the Celtic League as well as extension of Irish protection over them. If any of the Celtic Nations is occupied by a foreign power without that Celtic people's consent, Ireland will attempt to negotiate for the sovereignty of that people. If the foreign government refuses to give that people sovereignty, Ireland will declare war and that foreign government.

The Declaration of Irish Protection over Wales and Scotland still stands. The Isle of Man, now that it has an established central government, is holding an election for admission into the Celtic League.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland

OOC: Wikipedia: Celtic nations

This certainly has a degree of "parallelism" with real life. Ireland's just much more... aggressive?
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Toussaint
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Jul 18 2009, 10:43 AM
Ireland recognizes Brittany (Breizh), Cornwall (Kernow), Ireland (Éire), Isle of Man (Mannin), Scotland (Alba), and Wales (Cymru) as the six Celtic Nations. All are allowed to hold elections for their admission into the Celtic League as well as extension of Irish protection over them. If any of the Celtic Nations is occupied by a foreign power without that Celtic people's consent, Ireland will attempt to negotiate for the sovereignty of that people. If the foreign government refuses to give that people sovereignty, Ireland will declare war and that foreign government.

The Declaration of Irish Protection over Wales and Scotland still stands. The Isle of Man, now that it has an established central government, is holding an election for admission into the Celtic League.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland

OOC: Wikipedia: Celtic nations

This certainly has a degree of "parallelism" with real life. Ireland's just much more... aggressive?
"The Irish would do themselves wise to withdraw this policy. Their warmongering against us is uncalled for, and could easily lead to the destruction of Ireland. We urge the Irish to listen to reason, and if that fails, to look at the numbers- in an objective comparison between the Yvelinais army and the Irish army, the Irish are outnumbered, outteched, and frankly without a paddle.

"That said, Bretagne will not be holding special elections to proceed with independence. Bretagne is an integral part of France, and has been for nearly five hundred years. The Bretons are even a minority there, and cannot speak for the ethnic-French residents of that region. The Breton language has become endangered, due to a near complete cultural assimilation into French culture.

"We refuse to recognize the Celtic League, or any of its statements."

-Foreign Minister François Taillot
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OOC: I see that Cornwall has a country now. Perhaps you should contact them?
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The Celtic League is here to stay. I recognize the special case of Yvelinais and Bretagne. I wish to do everything possible to bring this to a peaceful end. However, I cannot simply ignore Yvelinais has been rather aggressive in their statements, and rather unwilling to attempt to bring this situation to a peaceful end. Ireland out of principle cannot back down from its statements, but out of logic and discretion, I would rather continue negotiations rather than drag us into a needless war. We Irish fought for our freedom, as the Bretons do now. We fought to the bitter end, and we gained our freedom. The cost was anarchy and chaos throughout the entirety of the British Isles, until I came to bring it back into order. I would not wish such a fate on your nation, nor would I on any nation. However, it was as much the "Free" Britain government's fault as our own. For simply ignoring us all that time, responding with only force against force, violence against violence, atrocity for atrocity, never once considering negotiation, they fell. You nation, as theirs once was, is known to be one of the freest and most equal societies in the world. But continue down the path you have taken, and you shall have sealed your fate.

Ireland will stay out of this conflict as long as possible, but as soon as the blood of an innocent Breton is shed, we will take action. Cease the hostilities as you must, but know that violence will get you nowhere in this matter.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland
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Jul 20 2009, 12:45 AM
OOC: I see that Cornwall has a country now. Perhaps you should contact them?
OOC: Lansdallius, the one who owns it, is a RL best friend. He's putting an interesting spin on the nation.
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Jul 20 2009, 01:06 AM
The Celtic League is here to stay. I recognize the special case of Yvelinais and Bretagne. I wish to do everything possible to bring this to a peaceful end. However, I cannot simply ignore Yvelinais has been rather aggressive in their statements, and rather unwilling to attempt to bring this situation to a peaceful end. Ireland out of principle cannot back down from its statements, but out of logic and discretion, I would rather continue negotiations rather than drag us into a needless war. We Irish fought for our freedom, as the Bretons do now. We fought to the bitter end, and we gained our freedom. The cost was anarchy and chaos throughout the entirety of the British Isles, until I came to bring it back into order. I would not wish such a fate on your nation, nor would I on any nation. However, it was as much the "Free" Britain government's fault as our own. For simply ignoring us all that time, responding with only force against force, violence against violence, atrocity for atrocity, never once considering negotiation, they fell. You nation, as theirs once was, is known to be one of the freest and most equal societies in the world. But continue down the path you have taken, and you shall have sealed your fate.

Ireland will stay out of this conflict as long as possible, but as soon as the blood of an innocent Breton is shed, we will take action. Cease the hostilities as you must, but know that violence will get you nowhere in this matter.

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland
"Our qualms are not with the Celtic League as an institution, but with the ideals that it represents. The Irish government has, in recent days, stated its blatant support for secessionist terrorists. We have not been aggressive in our statements. Our country is under siege from within, and is left with little option other than placing additional troops in the region for police action. Irish threats of war and snide remarks coming from the High King and his government have led us to believe that the Irish are unfriendly to our state in the least, and public enemies, in the worst.

"Our military is not engaging in any aggressive actions in Bretagne. It is simply policing the area, and keeping it safe from further attacks from the Free Breton Army and other militant groups. No hostilities have been initiated by our country."
Edited by Toussaint, Jul 20 2009, 01:31 AM.
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"Ah, then I suppose much of this has been a misunderstanding. You see, Ireland wishes friendly relations with our French neighbors, but we also want to look out for our Celtic brethren. The point of contention is: it seems like our Celtic brethren in Bretagne are very actively voicing that they don't want to be part of Yvelines. It wouldn't be right for Ireland to go back on its word, would it? But if Yvelines really isn't being hostile, and it really is a free nation, then I suppose there isn't much for us to worry about. However, if that is not true, well..." the High King lowered his voice, "I've already said what will happen."

-Stiofan Paul Uí Siadhail, High King of All Ireland
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Native Network News

NAN governemt send ambassador Luke Smallbird as ambassador to Celtic League.
Smallbird will ask to CL for some kind of bilateral agreement between two strong nations.
However the motivations of the trip are unknow...

Proposal from Sovereign Tribal Congress to Celtic League

We, Amerindians, and you, Celts, were been victims of anglo-french invasions and occupations.
So NAN will be interested in a more strong relationship between our two political formations.
We have just granted to Irish an observer seat in STC, what Celti League think is now necessary to strenght our alliance?
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Parliament of Meath response to STC

As the Celtic League is not yet healthily established, we have not yet established the Celtic Senate. When the Senate is established, we will invite the NAN to take an observer seat within it, to equal the courtesy you have shown us.

For the time being, we should draft and approve a bilateral alliance treaty to make this alliance fully official. We should consider the current escalating situation in Breizh as we negotiate the treaty.
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Cornwall shall send Arthur Connell, my younger brother, as its representative to the Celtic League. However, any motions that we would agree to within the Celtic League must also be allowed by myself and my fellow Council members in Bristol. Cornwall is part of the United Provinces of Wessex, and the decisions of the Council shall take precedence over the Celtic League. That being said, the County of Cornwall is honored to join the Celtic League, and we look forward to peaceful negotiations with our Celtic brothers.

--James Connell, Duke of Cornwall
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NAN will send Bill Blowingbuffalo as observer in Celtic League
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Éire and Mannin welcome Kernow to the Celtic League! With this, we shall begin considering a location of the Celtic Senate.

We recognize and respect Cornwall as part of the UPW, and as such its loyalty to the UPW Council. However, know that if at any time Cornwall is in danger, which by extension could mean all of the UPW, Ireland will fully respond to any request for assistance.

We also welcome NAN observer Bill Blowingbuffalo.

We will ensure both he and Kernow representative Arthur Connell will be given the best of lodgings now and when the Celtic Senate is founded.
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I only vote "YES" provided you bring back Manx as the official language.
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Jul 24 2009, 12:01 PM
I only vote "YES" provided you bring back Manx as the official language.
OOC: Yes. The only reason I took Mannin in the first place is I knew the likelihood it wouldn't be properly portrayed by another player, especially a noob. They'd just take it as another island in their country.

Mannin will speak Manx Gaelic and operate as a sovereign nation. However, it's basically protected by the Irish military. I plan to make some Manx Marines, though.
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Jul 24 2009, 02:37 PM
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Jul 24 2009, 12:01 PM
I only vote "YES" provided you bring back Manx as the official language.
OOC: Yes. The only reason I took Mannin in the first place is I knew the likelihood it wouldn't be properly portrayed by another player, especially a noob. They'd just take it as another island in their country.

Mannin will speak Manx Gaelic and operate as a sovereign nation. However, it's basically protected by the Irish military. I plan to make some Manx Marines, though.
Manx marines, with killer Manx cats!!
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OOC: So all six of the "Celtic nations" are occupied on the map now. We need to take a count of where they stand on the Celtic League, I think.
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OOC: Bretagne is barred from even being considered a part of the Celtic League. As a result of these policies, France has entirely shut down diplomatic relations with Ireland, and further motions towards Brittany would mean war.
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