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| Topic Started: Jul 9 2009, 09:01 PM (337 Views) | |
| Sedulius | Jul 9 2009, 09:01 PM Post #1 |
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I know Menhad won't be holding on to Scotland, so soon enough the British Isles will be empty save for my Ireland. It would be in Ireland's interest to either expand, or at the very least not let another English power rise to dominate the Isles. I think it would make for an interesting RP if the English state were reestablished (by someone), and it tried to dominate Britain. Ireland would move in opposition, trying to keep Wales and Scotland free. It would be even better if we could get some players for Wales and Scotland. I know I'm in a position for conquest, but I'd rather just keep to Ireland and form some sort of Celtic League with Wales and Scotland. Just an idea. It might be really interesting to establish older English states as well, such as Mercia, Northumbria, Cornwall, etc. |
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| Ulgania | Jul 9 2009, 09:06 PM Post #2 |
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I had long considered sticking a colony in England, but I went with Iberia instead. If you'd like to pick on some English, I might suggest poking at Terrel Fen in South America, a country of Englishmen who achieved independence from... their homeland, communists, themselves, and the Dominion... |
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| Sedulius | Jul 9 2009, 09:14 PM Post #3 |
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Well it wouldn't be very sporting to pick on them just because they're English. :lol: I need a real motive to go against the English, who right now are pretty non-existent. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jul 9 2009, 09:15 PM Post #4 |
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If some of that land is still open post-Dominion when the Empire is back on its feet, I might consider colonizing part of England, preferably one of the cities with a longstanding Roman heritage to serve as capital for Roman Britain. |
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| Sedulius | Jul 9 2009, 09:35 PM Post #5 |
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Ireland would fully respect and support its Roman allies taking rule of England, so long as they didn't extend into historical Wales or Scotland. Have to look out for my fellow Celts. EDIT: The old Roman capital of Britain was essentially Londinium. Edited by Sedulius, Jul 9 2009, 09:39 PM.
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| Rhadamanthus | Jul 9 2009, 10:09 PM Post #6 |
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Cool. I don't think I'd have any interest in moving north of Hadrian's Wall, so Scotland is out of the question. As for Wales, I was actually thinking on different lines - wouldn't Wales likely preserve more of the Romano-British culture as opposed to England, which was Germanicized? |
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| Toussaint | Jul 10 2009, 12:40 AM Post #7 |
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Scotland and France were longstanding allies, if you get my drift. I'd possibly be interested in entering this RP at some point, however I'll leave that for a little later, to see if newer players show up who would like some of that land. |
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| Sedulius | Jul 10 2009, 07:07 AM Post #8 |
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Tous: Good idea. It would be interesting to have France involved regardless. RD: I think even with the invasion of the Angles and Saxons, England retained more of the Roman culture, what with their legends and retained history and the like. The Welsh were always distinctly Celtic, even under the Romans, and well into their time under the British. Of course, with time they have become about as British as the English, though you'll still find a decent amount of Welshness about them. |
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| Telosan | Jul 10 2009, 07:11 AM Post #9 |
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All I've got is a little base in Ireland, but I'd love to be involved. Maybe I can grab Wales in the confusion of the war, say I'm using it as a base for aircraft. |
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| Sedulius | Jul 10 2009, 07:24 AM Post #10 |
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That would mean the loss of your Irish base and open war with Ireland, though you're free to try to take Wales. I suppose I should declare IC Ireland's protection of Wales and Scotland. :P |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jul 10 2009, 11:39 AM Post #11 |
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I'm not entirely sure I agree. I'm not disputing the Celtic identity of Wales, not at all! My point is rather that, Wales and England alike, had Roman dominion imposed over Celtic culture (the so called Romano-British culture), but in turn England then had Germanic culture imposed over that while Wales did not, at least until it was attached to England. For example, Wikipedia says:
The very term "Welsh" referred to the pre-Germanic Romano-British culture. You may be right that in Wales that that culture was more Celtic than Roman, but I was under the impression that prior to the Angles and Saxons, there wasn't such a strong distinction between the future "Wales" and the future "England" in Roman Britannia. Its ok though - this need not be a point of contention. If I should pursue this line of RP, then I am more interested in London and York anyway, then Wales. |
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| Telosan | Jul 10 2009, 11:46 AM Post #12 |
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Wouldn't want that. How about the English counties of Cornwall and Devon. It's the little 'tail' on the southern end pointing west. |
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| A.Q. | Jul 10 2009, 12:22 PM Post #13 |
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I might try and have Cerdone interfere a bit. For funsies. |
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| Filo | Jul 10 2009, 12:35 PM Post #14 |
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NAN should considere Celtic peoples as "Natives" of Ireland, Walles and Scotland and try to defend them from "White man" intereference. |
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| Menhad | Jul 10 2009, 05:20 PM Post #15 |
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But they are white people them selves.... If there is pagans to fight in Britain The Teutonic Knights will happily kill them B) |
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| Sedulius | Jul 10 2009, 06:10 PM Post #16 |
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Filo, I absolutely love you're thinking. You might find this interesting: the High King of Ireland was born in Idaho, and has Osage blood pumping through his veins. Couldn't tell by looking at him. (Yes, he is completely based on me.) Menhad, while you're essentially correct, the Brits thought of the Irish as a subrace just as they did the Native Americans. Ireland used to have I believe over 8 million people. Oliver Cromwell reduced it to under 400,000 (through genocide and Irish emigrating). RL, it's only just now gotten back to 5 million. I'd say we have plenty in common with Native Americans. I doubt there's pagans in Britain, but nonetheless the Order of Saint Patrick would be very interested in forming an alliance with der Deutcher Orden. RD, it seems you have me at a disadvantage. I'm intrigued; I'll have to read up on the subject. I'm sorry if I'm being hard about this. Truth is, I want to form a Celtic League, with at least Ireland, Scotland, and Wales as members. Cornwall and Brittany (that tip of France) could also join given their Celtic heritage. If it takes a too long for anyone to fill them in, we could try for them. Telo, if you're taking English lands, take it up with RD. I have no jurisdiction over them. Of course, I realize, this is all up to the mapmaker, NRE. |
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| Filo | Jul 13 2009, 05:43 AM Post #17 |
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An osage king? very interesting...NAN will cooperate with Ireland when you wish... |
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| Sedulius | Jul 13 2009, 01:34 PM Post #18 |
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Well, to be clear, I'm only a sixteenth Osage, and a sixteenth Cherokee. I might make him half Osage and half Irish. I'll make a better back story for him eventually. |
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| Filo | Jul 13 2009, 01:39 PM Post #19 |
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Native Blood must be preserved. |
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| Sedulius | Jul 13 2009, 02:21 PM Post #20 |
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So you think I should keep him authentic to myself? 1/16 Osage, 1/16 Cherokee |
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| New Harumf | Jul 14 2009, 08:34 AM Post #21 |
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Being married to a 1/2 Cherokee, I sleep with a hat on! |
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| Filo | Jul 14 2009, 01:00 PM Post #22 |
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Yes Sed. Yes a native king is genial...simply genial B) |
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| Devin Wire | Jul 14 2009, 02:39 PM Post #23 |
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I like what I am hearing, since I have Irish and Native American blood (as well as others) |
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| Sedulius | Jul 14 2009, 02:59 PM Post #24 |
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Ah, Devin Wire! Since you're back, you wouldn't happen to be interested in being Scotland or Wales, would you? There are wars planned for both countries right now. You could get right back into the action. I'd be happy to brief you on the situation. EDIT: The same goes to anyone who is interested. Edited by Sedulius, Jul 14 2009, 03:49 PM.
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| Filo | Jul 15 2009, 05:16 AM Post #25 |
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Eventually NAN shall extend cooperation to Walles and Scotland too... |
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