OCC: HRE and Coalition

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OCC: HRE and Coalition
Topic Started: Jun 15 2009, 05:34 PM (149 Views)
Filo	Jun 15 2009, 05:34 PM Post #1
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	I have seen that my recognition roleplay has light a fire so i wrote this OCC post. Philipp has asked recognition from Roman empires and have exchange with it a gift. The HRE(i like so much) should be stay away from the war. It is just fighting in the jungles of Yucatan and, already Doom promised neutrality, HRE wish not broken neutrality but feel not as a Dominion puppet so if it will forced to stop his economic transactions or his pèlanes should be shot down, Philipp will lined up with Coalition. I wrote this because i'm intyerested in what you think about i should do in this RP. Surely Philipp will not step back, or if forced to widraw his promises to Damascus secretly allied with Coalition broking the neutrality. If Kas wish this a thing Dominion spies may know or percive and Dominion can judge by itself what solution is better. Ciao



Kasnyia	Jun 15 2009, 06:05 PM Post #2
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	It isn't a quesation about the HRE. Its a question of COALITION aircraft and material flying over DOMINION airspace. For me to allow it for the sake of the RP would require a plot hole of great size. Like I said before, if you want transactions, you have to fly YOUR planes THERE and BRING them. THEY cannot fly to YOU, because that would mean breaking Dominion lines, which they CAN NOT do because the two sides are at war. You want to be neutral, Filo, you have to do your part and not force my hand. Otherwise, consider the Dominion invading you the moment the Coalition sends a damned thing to you.



Filo	Jun 15 2009, 06:11 PM Post #3
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	And infact Kas are HRE planes that bring things to Coalition states(if i'm bringing a gift not call you to come to take it, but i bring it myself). Because Coalition is not sending me nothing but is HRE that is sending things to Damascus so i cannot see the problem...



Kasnyia	Jun 15 2009, 06:15 PM Post #4
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	TC is trying to send people to you. That is my contention. I don't care what you send over to him (so long as they are not soldiers or weapons, as that would be a breach in the neutrality pact).



Filo	Jun 15 2009, 06:19 PM Post #5
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	Ahh i have understand now. Ok. Since HRE wish not fight european war will bring back the crown from Damascus when returning from there and will not allowed Roman planes to land in Wien or Budapest.



Kasnyia	Jun 15 2009, 06:20 PM Post #6
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Thank you. :D



Filo	Jun 15 2009, 06:26 PM Post #7
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	However i suppose this will change HRE aptitude toward dominion and coalition. Philipp, he was ruling from few time, will not entered in war but i suppose that he shoul decide to aid Coalition in some way, may be economic aids or sometihing like that. ;)



Kasnyia	Jun 15 2009, 08:44 PM Post #8
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	The moment he aides the Coalition in any way, the Dominion will consider any pact voided and would immediately invade. They're extreme like that.



Tristan da Cunha	Jun 15 2009, 09:05 PM Post #9
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	Kasnyia Jun 15 2009, 06:05 PM It isn't a quesation about the HRE. Its a question of COALITION aircraft and material flying over DOMINION airspace. For me to allow it for the sake of the RP would require a plot hole of great size. The much bigger plot hole is the significant drop in Dominion power due to the disappearance of CE's account. To not acknowledge this drop in power would pretty much be in violation of all the rules of the forum. That's why you should acknowledge it somehow, and I would of course recommend that allowing the modest RP I've set up with HRE would be a reasonable place to start.



Kasnyia	Jun 15 2009, 09:21 PM Post #10
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Once again, the Dominion and CE are not one and the same. IC, they are allies. Dominion never annexed the land, thus the power is not the same. Also, IC realization of their accounts collapse is not necessary if it hinders with the RP, which it would. Once the European campaign is over, then consider them gone. Otherwise it causes more problems than it "solves".



Tristan da Cunha	Jun 15 2009, 09:28 PM Post #11
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	This is absolutely false. The relative powers of OOC accounts is the only source of IC authority and that's the bedrock principle of NSWR, or else an RP like the Baghdad Pact could never have occurred. CE's disappearance is pretty much the perfect "out" for the Dominion War. It is an organic event, instead of any storyline imposed from above that may or may not be agreeable to all. Also, acknowledging CE's disappearance may hinder with your precise idea but you don't own RP in NSWR. I personally don't agree that it hinders RP so it would be impossible for you to assert or assume that it hinders with RP. In fact I believe it enhances RP. If CE is on its own and not a part of the Dominion then I don't see what the problem is. Catholic Europe's borders should be in a state of chaos now. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 15 2009, 10:24 PM.



Filo	Jun 16 2009, 04:11 AM Post #12
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	I don't see the problem anyway. HRE will send delegates, howver i belive that Dominion has gained a new enemy. B)



Tristan da Cunha	Jun 16 2009, 09:44 AM Post #13
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	I see this as being highly problematic. I'll see if this can't be resolved through moderation. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 16 2009, 09:46 AM.


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