Racial Map

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Racial Map
Topic Started: Jun 6 2009, 07:37 PM (1,687 Views)
Tristan da Cunha	Jun 8 2009, 06:00 PM Post #26
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	Eleytheria-Duo Damn TC, whatever inspired you to do this, it deserves a reward. As do you. It goes well with my countries current lore, as well. The only thing I see wrong (from my perspective) is where the Slavic group has pushed so far inland. I envisioned most European colonization took place along the Coastal regions, such as Baffin Island, along the Hudson and a small arc up to Boothia and King William. From my current lore standpoint, Eleytheria-Duo is a bit of a mess. Kugaaruk, is inhabited by mostly Inuit people (Specifically Netsilik,) which arose as the dominant city out of sheer luck, and as a result have a semi-serious rivalry with Yellowknife (whom see themselves as the ones who should have been the center of attention in the country.) Furthermore, the Slavs and other Europeans landed in South Baffin (Kimmirut and Iqaluit,) particularly consisting of disgruntled Communists (for a myriad of reasons, ranging from hating their countries policies to just power hungry) attempting to form a sovereign state in the region. Kugaaruk vehemently protested, which ended in war and brutal suppression the Slavic uprising. Hence why the "Red Revolutionaries" are so pissy towards Kugaaruk and "Eleytherian" existence in general, its a symbol of tyranny and oppression to them. (I really need to get back to work on my nations history... Maybe after the Dominion ends, I guess. :( ) On a side note, I could edit this map myself if you don't mind, and I could send you the revision to tweak if necessary. It should take the labor off of you, if you prefer. But I don't really mind one way or the other, I have no qualms the way it is. ED I think you have it right, the point of the map is as much about the preservation of NSWR lore and history as it is about depicting the contemporary current situation. That's why there are old races like Patruans, Syawlans, and Eliasans on the map. Some of the races on the map were from countries that RP'd exclusively on the nationstates.net Regional Message Boards years and years ago. But even though all their nationstates have been swept away into the sands of time, I like to think their people haven't completely disappeared (barring a genocidal ethnic cleansing :lol: ) and are therefore worth mentioning. I got the idea from a series of maps of real world races that RD showed me, as he is our resident ethnological scholar/expert :D ED I'll take you up on your offer here is a section of your geographic area in .png format if you want to customize it to fit your lore better. After you're done you could upload it as a .png or .bmp file and I'll splice it back into the large map. The original large map file is 25 megabyte .bmp file so I'm unable to upload it to imageshack but if you want the full version I'll set it up on rapidshare or something. (The large map I posted in this thread is a 1 MB .jpg version with compressed/lower quality colors as I can't figure out how to preserve the original colors and simultaneously reduce the file size to fit under imageshack's limit) Posted Image Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 8 2009, 06:03 PM.



Eleytheria-Duo	Jun 8 2009, 06:07 PM Post #27
Resident Bystander Posts: 2,370 Group: Map Makers Member #298 Joined: November 16, 2006	You, my friend, are amazing. I will get to work as soon as the time presents itself. Many thanks. ^^



Tristan da Cunha	Jun 8 2009, 06:09 PM Post #28
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	Here's the complete original map file in crisp and unadulterated colors, for reference purposes. 24 MB rapidshare download. http://rapidshare.com/files/242418986/ethno.bmp.html Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 8 2009, 06:10 PM.



Nag Ehgoeg	Jun 8 2009, 06:13 PM Post #29
The Devil's Advocate Posts: 7,238 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: December 26, 2003	Gimmie a minute (hit my RS limit downloading... uh... wait a minute, I don't have to tell you guys what I was downloading). Point is I'll see if I can't shrink it/upload it. Edited by Nag Ehgoeg, Jun 8 2009, 06:13 PM.



Kasnyia	Jun 8 2009, 07:02 PM Post #30
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Ulgania Jun 8 2009, 05:42 PM Also what I like about this map by default is the lack of politics. Although I'm a little surprised about just how much German migration has occurred in the world. I think some of those migration patterns should be considered in the Histories topic :lol: Heh heh heh.... Such was the accomplishment of the Kasnyian Empire :gnarkgnark: :D



East Anarx	Jul 7 2009, 08:04 PM Post #31
Anarchitect Posts: 4,788 Group: Multi Member #210 Joined: January 16, 2006	Just saw this. Lysander Spooner! Yay!



New Harumf	Jul 8 2009, 07:57 AM Post #32
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	I just love maps, and this one I can study for hours because I always find something new, like I just noticed today the "white supremisists" in Michigan!! Long live Gitchi Goomi!!!! :lol: :lol: And Nag, you've got to quit downloading those Vatican Mural files, way too much band width. :dry:



Sedulius	Jul 8 2009, 10:56 AM Post #33
Field Marshal Posts: 4,727 Group: Members Member #427 Joined: March 29, 2008	Wait a minute, the old Byzantine Empire is filled with half-black people? What the hell? CE really was crazy.



A.Q.	Jul 8 2009, 01:17 PM Post #34
Beautiful Snowflake Posts: 906 Group: Members Member #429 Joined: April 13, 2008	Huh, and how are the Finnish and the Hungarians related? Is this true-to-life? Also, the Qalaa'i are Persian. :D



Nag Ehgoeg	Jul 8 2009, 04:53 PM Post #35
The Devil's Advocate Posts: 7,238 Group: Admin Member #7 Joined: December 26, 2003	New Harumf Jul 8 2009, 07:57 AM And Nag, you've got to quit downloading those Vatican Mural files, way too much band width. :dry: Short of chopping it into quarters (which increases the overall size), there's nothing I can do without really botching the colours.



Ulgania	Jul 8 2009, 10:52 PM Post #36
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse Posts: 4,041 Group: Members Member #450 Joined: June 3, 2008	Al Qalaa Jul 8 2009, 01:17 PM Huh, and how are the Finnish and the Hungarians related? Is this true-to-life? Also, the Qalaa'i are Persian. :D I'm pretty sure it's true to life wherever there isn't an IC change in our own timeline



Filo	Jul 9 2009, 04:34 AM Post #37
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	In RL Hungarian and Finnishes talk the same languange called Ugrofinnic(splitted in old age in Hungarian and Finnish) and are also the same ethnic stock. Edited by Filo, Jul 9 2009, 04:35 AM.



A.Q.	Jul 9 2009, 06:00 AM Post #38
Beautiful Snowflake Posts: 906 Group: Members Member #429 Joined: April 13, 2008	Filo Jul 9 2009, 04:34 AM In RL Hungarian and Finnishes talk the same languange called Ugrofinnic(splitted in old age in Hungarian and Finnish) and are also the same ethnic stock. Huh. Would have never guessed.



New Harumf	Jul 9 2009, 08:36 AM Post #39
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Filo Jul 9 2009, 04:34 AM In RL Hungarian and Finnishes talk the same languange called Ugrofinnic(splitted in old age in Hungarian and Finnish) and are also the same ethnic stock. Who would have thought that Hungarians and Hobbitts were related! But, then, everyone has to come from somewhere, eh?



Filo	Jul 9 2009, 01:10 PM Post #40
General Posts: 3,999 Group: Veterans Member #192 Joined: October 31, 2005	Yes...and Hungarians belive to be descendant from Attila and his huns...only in XIX� century they found the truth...and they don't like it very much...



Toussaint	Jul 10 2009, 01:20 AM Post #41
Major Posts: 1,973 Group: Members Member #377 Joined: October 3, 2007	Sedulius Jul 8 2009, 10:56 AM Wait a minute, the old Byzantine Empire is filled with half-black people? What the hell? CE really was crazy. This is confusing me as well....



Rhadamanthus	Jul 10 2009, 01:25 AM Post #42
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Toussaint Jul 10 2009, 01:20 AM Sedulius Jul 8 2009, 10:56 AM Wait a minute, the old Byzantine Empire is filled with half-black people? What the hell? CE really was crazy. This is confusing me as well.... Its hilarious but true. When TC was making this map, he and I were pouring over old demographic threads and RPs. CE's information said that the bulk of his population was mixed race, with mulatto being the most common, so TC decided to mark that down for CE. Utterly hilarious :lol:



Kasnyia	Jul 10 2009, 03:02 AM Post #43
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	We have Germans in India and Italian-Croats in Indochina. Balkan Mulattos sounds far more logical in comparison, does it not? Being right across the sea from Africa and all...



Rhadamanthus	Jul 17 2009, 10:25 PM Post #44
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Kasnyia Jul 10 2009, 03:02 AM We have Germans in India and Italian-Croats in Indochina. Balkan Mulattos sounds far more logical in comparison, does it not? Being right across the sea from Africa and all... I agree about the Italo-croats in Indochina, but I think that Germans in India is more plausible. The Central Asian steppe has been the major transport hub of Eurasia since prehistory, and the transmission of one more Aryan tribe through West Eurasia is not implausible. On the other hand, to use the anthropological terms in the race map, the part of Africa close to Europe and which has historically interacted with Europe is Caucasoid Africa, which would not produce mulattos when bred with Europeans. I think that Sub-saharan Africans in the Balkans actually is more farfetched. So my scale from most to least farfetched would be: IOAC (Italians on a China) --------------------------- Balkan Mulattoes --------------------------------------- Indo-Germans Edited by Rhadamanthus, Jul 17 2009, 10:25 PM.



Kasnyia	Jul 17 2009, 10:52 PM Post #45
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Ah well. Makes me feel more secure in my racial/social choices for Kasnyia. :D



Rhadamanthus	Jul 17 2009, 10:53 PM Post #46
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Kasnyia Jul 17 2009, 10:52 PM Ah well. Makes me feel more secure in my racial/social choices for Kasnyia. :D Well, since you had posted my version of Kasnyian origins in your national description thread, I consider myself invested in those choices, and thus, I advocated for them :lol:



Kasnyia	Jul 17 2009, 11:29 PM Post #47
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	As I said before in the RP style thread, your posts are like Oxford research papers. :D Edited by Kasnyia, Jul 17 2009, 11:29 PM.



Rhadamanthus	Aug 2 2009, 01:48 PM Post #48
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	When he gets the time, perhaps this can updated in the future to reflect recent changes.



Ulgania	Aug 2 2009, 07:13 PM Post #49
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse Posts: 4,041 Group: Members Member #450 Joined: June 3, 2008	In terms of 'changes', I'm going to put a stronger racial presence in Ulganian culture. Srolonka's mostly Valencian-Ulganian, and Sahndaq is Arabian-Ulganian.



Rhadamanthus	Aug 2 2009, 07:41 PM Post #50
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Ulgania Aug 2 2009, 07:13 PM In terms of 'changes', I'm going to put a stronger racial presence in Ulganian culture. Srolonka's mostly Valencian-Ulganian, and Sahndaq is Arabian-Ulganian. Excellent. Hopefully my RPs will always be littered with well-known as well as more obscure ethnonyms. Edited by Rhadamanthus, Aug 2 2009, 07:41 PM.

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