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| Topic Started: Jun 3 2009, 01:58 AM (1,974 Views) | |
| Quaon | Jun 9 2009, 07:39 PM Post #26 |
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I did mean from Scythirus, and was just trying to make sure this thread didn't fall into the next page by the time Scythirus returns. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jun 9 2009, 07:40 PM Post #27 |
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Gotcha. I just wanted to make sure you knew that he wasn't ignoring you, since I didn't know whether you checked his activity. |
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| NRE | Jun 9 2009, 07:42 PM Post #28 |
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An if the topic is any hint, you may be waiting a while :lol: :P Edit: I hate that when I click on a thread I go to the first post I haven't read and not the last page of the entire conversation.... :dry: Edited by NRE, Jun 9 2009, 07:44 PM.
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 30 2010, 12:12 AM Post #29 |
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I might as well get responding to this since Quaon's trolling on everything else I post. Your source says
This is wrong. http://uncensored.co.nz/2009/04/04/911-active-thermitic-material-confirmed/ http://www.ufppc.org/us-a-world-news-mainmenu-35/9434-media-analysis-renascent-911-doubt-nano-thermite-was-not-prepared-in-a-cave-in-afghanistan.html And a rebuttal to debunkers: http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=15950&Disp=163 Also: Posted Image
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Lying through their teeth. Very end, "Building's about to blow up" referring to WTC7. Protip, bombs explode.
This is a steel highrise? Posted Image Posted Image Oh yeah, that's a real great comparison. :rolleyes:
Fair enough, but then we go back to....
That's your only explanation? He was allegedly a son calling his MOTHER! I don't care how stressed he was, people just don't announce their last name to the person who raised them. I think they know what their kid's last name is.
Passengers are passengers, but terrorists still have to be proven. About half of the accused terrorists are still alive. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm Also, Flight 93 was shot down, allowing a better chance to float out of the diving wreck. Plus you're ignoring that a completely random dude just simply handed the cop the miracle passport, tarnishing the legitimacy of the evidence.
You drove this thread off topic in one post just to challenge my knowledge on 9/11, and that's not antagonistic?
Yet you are the one who is wrong. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html http://oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/911_commission_members_doubt_of.htm The 9/11 Commission was told "not to cross the line": (Page 26) http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/CIA.pdf If the official story is true, why all the strong arming from the government to influence the Commission? Edited by Comrade Queen, Jun 30 2010, 12:18 AM.
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| Quaon | Jun 30 2010, 12:29 AM Post #30 |
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I will compose a longer post individually rebutting your points at some point in the future, but for the time being, before I go to sleep: Explain to me how it is possible that not a single person noticed the hordes of trained demolitionists descending upon the WTC in the weeks prior to 9/11 who would have been required if the WTC were taken down by the government. Explain to me further how not a single one of these people, who at least number in the dozens, has spoken about their role in the attack. You'd essentially be requiring scores of men to keep the biggest secret in human history quiet for the rest of their lives; if they had a single pang of guilt and got drunk, the plotters could be exposed. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 30 2010, 12:30 AM Post #31 |
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http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2208 |
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| Deleted User | Jun 30 2010, 12:39 AM Post #32 |
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Seriously? |
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| Menhad | Jun 30 2010, 12:52 AM Post #33 |
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Ok if the government is capable of bringing down the WTC and not get caught, then it should be more than capable silencing the people who post articles on the internet pointing out that they did bring down the WTC.... Oh wait.... It was pissed of Muslims who hijacked the planes, and flew them into the WTC and Pentagon. This doesn't justify invading Afghanistan, and it no way in hell justifies invading Iraq. There are people who do pull the strings in the world today, but I think they would find a less obvious way to manipulate the United States into war with the Middle East. Remember these people got that powerful somehow, and it's not because they lucked into it. They where smart. Side Note: Thermite can form in many situations, hell the Hindenburg fire formed Thermite. Also that photo might not be Thermite, many other things can cause showers of sparks. As for the cut beam photo, ever consider that the rescue/firemen cut the beam? You know because the whole thing might have been in the way so, they cut it. And Scy, remember you can attract alot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. |
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| Hastine | Jun 30 2010, 12:54 AM Post #34 |
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Arguing that the WTC was blown up in a government conspiracy is like arguing that the Holocaust was a Zionist hoax. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 30 2010, 01:08 AM Post #35 |
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Let's see... did the cabal of criminals in the government not get caught, not get caaaaught? Considering we're talking about it and we have a few good ideas of who was involved (Larry Silverstein, Rumsfeld, Turner Construction, CIA, etc.), I'd say they very well did get caught.
That's the government's official conspiracy theory. Show me concrete evidence it was Muslims that live in Afghani caves. Said evidence must not include men handing in passports that were reported stolen years earlier or footage of bad Osama bin Laden impersonators wearing gold wedding rings and fat faces.
Watch some of the footage on YouTube, it's clearly fluid. All of the jet fuel had burned up by then. At that point there was suppose to be only a sissy little office fire with burning paper and desks.
It's a possibility I haven't dismissed, but it's certainly ominous with the rescue crews already crawling through the area. |
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| Menhad | Jun 30 2010, 01:32 AM Post #36 |
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When I say caught I mean the vast major of Americans believe that they did it, not just you, me and some other people on the web.
Well their names are a poor piece of evidence, but some evidence none-the-less. Honestly I haven't read much into the whole matter, but I do think the most logically situation would be that angry Muslims did it. They have attacked American assets before (The embassies bombing, the Marine Barracks bombing), and they have plenty of reasons to do it (Spiritually and Politically). No they didn't live in Afghani caves, majority came from Saudi Arabia. As I said, the WTC did not justify invading Afghanistan, personally I think Saudi Arabia is the largest threat to the US, followed by Iran. But we will never invade Saudi Arabia, to much money at stake invading there. I believe that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor, and the the WTC does have some similarities to it. (They both where used are reasons to go to war it the biggest similarity) |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 30 2010, 01:40 AM Post #37 |
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How much is a "vast" majority? Only two thirds? http://www.sott.net/articles/show/205933-100-million-Americans-question-or-find-fault-with-the-official-9-11-story
And yet some were still reported alive after the fact. It's been confirmed by BBC News. See that one article I linked to. I have a few more as well if you're really curious. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 30 2010, 01:41 AM Post #38 |
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I'm satisfied with the 9/11 Commission Report. The commission stated that it was the stupidity of American foreign policy which led to the 9/11 attacks. Though of course the commission stated this with a lot of extra verbiage. If we actually followed the findings of the 9/11 report, we would realize that our whole involvement in the Middle East has been a waste of time and money and we therefore wouldn't continue to waste time and money there. However, the government decided to brush aside these findings and concoct the myth that those muzzies "hate our way of life" when in reality the muzzies have very specific, discrete complaints against US foreign policy. This foreign policy is correctable and can be corrected, but the government chose not to and instead chose to flush more American money and blood down the great toilet known as Middle Eastern Geopolitics. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 30 2010, 01:43 AM Post #39 |
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That's strange, because quite a few of its former members aren't. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 30 2010, 01:46 AM Post #40 |
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Those people are looking at the trees and missing the forest, so to speak. The truth is already out there: our Middle Eastern foreign policy has been a gigantic fuck-up for decades. |
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| Toussaint | Jun 30 2010, 01:51 AM Post #41 |
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I was unaware that 100 million was two thirds of 300 million. Math has just been face fucked. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 30 2010, 01:56 AM Post #42 |
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I meant the other way, clearly. Sorry if it seemed phrased weird. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 30 2010, 02:12 AM Post #43 |
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Then what should we do? "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Should we stand by while there is oppression and genocide? I'm not disagreeing with you, just playing the devil's advocate. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 30 2010, 02:33 AM Post #44 |
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We ought to encourage the natural and peaceful balance of power in the Middle East, instead of proactively disrupting it like we've been doing. |
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| Union | Jun 30 2010, 07:19 AM Post #45 |
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The United States is the only regime competent enough to execute a full-fledged, highly coordinated, covert, secret military operation in front of the eyes of millions of Americans, and not leak a word for ten years, and incompetent enough to leak pictures from CIA prisons in Iraq, leak videos of journalists being shot from a Blackhawk, fuck up a simple occupation of Iraq despite history of successful occupations in other cultures, etc etc. :rolleyes: |
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| New Harumf | Jun 30 2010, 08:20 AM Post #46 |
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OK, would OUR government be so dispicable as to bring down the WTC in order to provoke a war in the middle east? Well, unfortunately, yes. They've done similar things in the past. Would OUR government be able to keep a thing like this a secret for any length of time? I seriously doubt it. See, that's my only problem. A great deal of your evidence is compelling, but I just don't see how it could be kept secret - people talk. Oh, and I'd be for killing Taliban and El Quada people even without the WTC. I'd also be for toppling Saddam, invading Afghanistan, and crusading against Islam in general. |
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| Union | Jun 30 2010, 09:58 AM Post #47 |
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When has the United States killed 3,000 WASPS? |
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| Toussaint | Jun 30 2010, 11:03 AM Post #48 |
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Like what? |
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| New Harumf | Jun 30 2010, 11:13 AM Post #49 |
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The Maine blows up in Havana Harbor. The Japanese attack Pearl Harbor with FDR's knowledge. Weapons of mass distruction are photographed in the Iraqi desert and used as evidence to start a war. Child abuse is "discovered" in the Branch Davidian compound. The second Gulf of Tonkin incident. |
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| Union | Jun 30 2010, 11:26 AM Post #50 |
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This has been demonstrated to be an accident. Where do you get the information suggesting the USA was behind it? Regardless, American civilians were not targeted in this case.
This is contestable, and by no means a certain conclusion. While it is beyond debate that FDR knew a Japanese attack was coming, his leading advisors and himself were focused on Alaska and the Philippines, not Hawaii. Pearl Harbor itself was a complete surprise. Regardless, American civilians were not targeted in this case.
There is undeniable evidence that Iraq had vast quantities of yellowcake uranium procured in Africa. What is unclear is what the Ba'ahist regime intended to use that fuel for. There is minor evidence of systems being transferred to Syria prior to invasion, though this is yet unsubstantiated. Regardless, American civilians were not targeted in this case. Child abuse is "discovered" in the Branch Davidian compound.
It seems to me that nervousness was responsible for that more so than malice. Regardless, American civilians were not targeted in this case. |
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