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| Gassel's Fate; Curious. | |
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| Topic Started: May 31 2009, 11:27 PM (2,183 Views) | |
| Filo | Jun 11 2009, 02:09 AM Post #126 |
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Neither accused unfortunately... May be instead of many judges should be nominated four or five by vote and the ramain nations should form a jury. Edited by Filo, Jun 11 2009, 02:09 AM.
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| Kasnyia | Jun 11 2009, 02:43 AM Post #127 |
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Sounds like a good idea, Filo, unless anyone has any objection... |
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| NRE | Jun 11 2009, 11:32 AM Post #128 |
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Well is this going to be a trial by jury or a Military Tribunal? I mean the point of having a jury is to have it as non-biased as possible and I'm not sure that will be possible by the end of the war. I mean don't get me wrong I like the idea since it will allow everyone who wants to participate do so by creating more spots that will need to be filled. However, I'm not sure it would be practical or necessarily fair....of course we all know he's guilty and will be found guilty regardless so I guess it doesn't really matter :lol: Edited by NRE, Jun 11 2009, 11:34 AM.
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| Kasnyia | Jun 11 2009, 04:29 PM Post #129 |
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I'm up for whichever is best. Y'all decide. :D |
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| Porcu | Jun 11 2009, 04:58 PM Post #130 |
"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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| Kasnyia | Jun 17 2009, 03:48 PM Post #131 |
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Since no one says otherwise, I guess a tribunal shall be the way. How is a tribunal set up usually, anyone know? |
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| Konosha | Jun 17 2009, 06:10 PM Post #132 |
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Well I know military tribunals work much like a court martial, however they try enemy combatants instead of they're own (We already know this so I wont patronize), anyways the military (Or Coalition) grabs three senior military leaders and then they accuse the defendant of what the person did. There is no jury, the three military "judges" act as the jury. Its mostly a question based trial, where the judges ask (In Gassel case since he cant really be innocent in the judges eyes...) why he did it, what was he thinking, you should die, ect. After evidence is displayed by the military authority the judges make their rule, if hes innocent he is given a pat on the back and told sorry, if hes guilty then the judges can do whatever they really want... Imprisoned, shot, gassed, thrown off a very tall structure... Yeah. So to simplify this greatly. Military Tribunal: Three Military Officers act as judges (One from three country's), judges are the jury, military authority (anyone who has evidence) brings in evidence, judges make ruling, trial is over with. |
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| Kasnyia | Jun 17 2009, 06:27 PM Post #133 |
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Ulgania....Confederacy....Kasnyia itself. Might for the sake of plot, expand the judges to five, but if I do who would the other two be.... |
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| Ulgania | Jun 17 2009, 06:30 PM Post #134 |
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Rome and Paradise? That is, someone from the new Caliph's regime. |
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| Kasnyia | Jun 17 2009, 06:51 PM Post #135 |
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I know this has RL precident with Soviets at WW2, but the Caliph was neutral until Gassel invaded Paradise proper. But unlike the Soviets, the Caliph didn't manage to fight them off.... I agree with Romans though.... |
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| Toussaint | Jun 18 2009, 01:42 PM Post #136 |
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I disagree with having a Kasnyian judge. Afterall, no Germans judged at Nuremberg. They were the ones who let this happen, after all.
Edited by Toussaint, Jun 18 2009, 01:53 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Jun 18 2009, 01:49 PM Post #137 |
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Then pray tell who would fill Kasnyia's seat? They want revenge against Gassel even more than everyone else... |
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| Toussaint | Jun 18 2009, 01:56 PM Post #138 |
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I'm sure any of us would be rather pleased to have a judge sit on the panel. How about a European judge? Yvelines would be proud to send a judge- as I'm sure any of the European coalition members would. |
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| Kasnyia | Jun 18 2009, 01:57 PM Post #139 |
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Isn't that going to be Rome? |
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| Toussaint | Jun 18 2009, 02:06 PM Post #140 |
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Well then, the triunal should be Rome, The Confederacy, and Ulgania. |
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| Kasnyia | Jun 18 2009, 02:09 PM Post #141 |
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Why can't Kasnyians have their vengeance again? I'm asking seriously. You brought up Nuremberg, but Kasnyia is not the Dominion, just a part of it. And I still think it should be five. Edited by Kasnyia, Jun 18 2009, 02:10 PM.
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| Toussaint | Jun 18 2009, 02:13 PM Post #142 |
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As the party responsible for this mess, the Kasnyians shouldn't be given that privilege. Gassel came to power under their watch. Certainly, the Kasnyians must want revenge- but I think the more important "leading" members of the Coalition should be responsible for condemning the man. Imperial Kasnyia has played a relatively small part in fighting the war, as far as manpower goes. |
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| Toussaint | Jun 18 2009, 02:14 PM Post #143 |
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There were no Austrian judges either, for that matter. |
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| New Harumf | Jun 18 2009, 02:18 PM Post #144 |
Bloodthirsty Unicorn
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...or Italian or Japanese or Vichy French! Lots of Germans hated the Nazis, but none were allowed to serve. If there are any Dominion members on the Jury, then the tribunal will not have any credibility, so, no Nag, no AA, etc. |
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| Kasnyia | Jun 18 2009, 02:26 PM Post #145 |
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Eh, alright. I concede. Kasnyia won't serve. That said, I most certainly and vehemenantly contend against the claim that the Kasnyians "let" Gassel come to power under "their watch". He wasn't elected like Hitler or anything like that. He overthrew the government and massacred thousands before the Dominion even came into being. Also, Imperial Kasnyia may not have been providing great armies of manpower, since their forces are holed up in Pacifica (which has become a refugee haven since the days of the KMR), but they have been providing the majority of the intelligence against the Dominion (via the Peacock) and I would also argue that they are most certainly apart of the leading nations of the Coalition, seeing as they were present at the first meeting and were trying to offer plans. |
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| Konosha | Jun 18 2009, 05:51 PM Post #146 |
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I dont know why we are comparing this the overthrow of Kasynia like WWII, Caron. This is more comparable to the Communist overthrow of the Chinese Republic. Sure the ROC let Mao grow his forces (Because of the Japanese occupation), but it wasn't like they wanted him to, the Republican and Communist Chinese forces faught very bloody battles, however they couldn't stop the Commies from taking over. Does that mean we label Taiwan as Communist? Nope. So labeling ALL of the Kasynians as apart of the Dominion would be idiotic, I personally see nothing wrong with a Kasynian judge. As long as he hates the Dominion... Edited by Konosha, Jun 18 2009, 05:52 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Jun 18 2009, 05:54 PM Post #147 |
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Oh he would. Thats the only reason I'd want a position on the tribunal, to abuse Gassel in both their native Kasnyian dialect. :lol: |
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| Toussaint | Jun 18 2009, 06:09 PM Post #148 |
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I was not the one who originally put up the Nuremberg comparison. Others were talking about it before. In any case, this really isn't comparable to China. No "Japanese occupation" was occurring as Gassel was rising. And, indeed, many countries have ICly expressed their discontent with Imperial Kasnyia for being weak on Gassel. Whether or not that's fair, that's how it's being portrayed IC. We ought to act accordingly. |
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| Porcu | Jun 18 2009, 06:15 PM Post #149 |
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What about a Porcuian judge, hmm? That was a joke, btw... |
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| Eleytheria-Duo | Jun 18 2009, 06:21 PM Post #150 |
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Damn, no Eleytherian judge then. Oh well. |
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